Pest control for serious infestation of crows

greysides

Genghis Cant wrote: »

As far as I'm aware it's illegal to shoot or interfere with crows or crows nests , except under derogation.
You'd want to have a chat with your local NPWS staff before you carry out any action against the crows.

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Might be no harm to bear this in mind and check what the state of play is.

Donald Trump

cute geoge wrote: »

They seem to be taking over every place around here as well ,a neighbour described going on holiday over to lancanshire and vast fields of tillage and not a crow in sight surely bliss for any tillage farmer ,How come there are no crows over there

Brexit.

lab man

The boy conor there is a ladder trap for sale in done deal it's under greycrow and magpie trap might be handier than having to make one tiz 340 euro though

theaceofspies

Crows are like rushes and docks - monoculture species which thrive when biodiversity gets hammered in the race for profit

Never wrestle with pigs

Don't forget to bate the area it's going to with plenty of bread a few days before you put it there.

Cattlepen

TheBoyConor wrote: »

To the 2 people who are saying love the crows, they are no harm, I'm guessing that you don't have your homeplace adjacent to an up and coming rookery and hundreds of the bastardin' cúnts aren't shítting all over your house, cars, washing line etc. FFS, get a grip. They are not rare birds or eagles or kestrels. They are bloody crows FFS.

Thank you for your advice everyone else. Shooting is not a workable solution as my mother would not allow unknown strangers into the yard. She is very security conscious and would be wary. Not really that the shooter would do our steal anything, it's that they might innocently mention something in passing that they were at this farm and someone, in the pub, shop, wherever might over hear that there were machines, tractors etc here and come out and Rob the place. A bit paranoid maybe, but I get her point. Rural crime is a big problem today and she isn't going to take any chances, rightly.

Anyway, it seems my only option is to build a ladder trap which I will begin this weekend.
Hopefully it catches large numbers and I will have to go home every other day to kill the trapped crows.

For other people's information for the future I will keep the thread updated with progress

Sorry for this but your first paragraph has me in stitches here. It kind of reminds me of Frank Kelly’s “12 days of Christmas “. Again, sorry, but it just sounds so funny

Bog Man 1

Crows are always within 30 miles of people . They feed of of crops we grow and feed we leave out . They actually live a very long time some of them more than 25 years .Most of the dead ones you see are young crows . The Buzzards have caused a few of our rookeries to move .

archer22

Rooks are quite beneficial to Farmers



www.mayonews.ie/living/outdoor-living/29341-shoot-the-rook-pay-the-price[/url]


sorry that doesn't seem to go through for some reason...anyhow the jist of it is they eat vast amounts of bugs that damage grassland and crops

Ok sorted that link works now.

jimmy G M

I wonder is this any good at keeping birds away? Essentially a kite which looks like a hawk...
A few crows nesting in nearby trees and starlings looking to nest in the garden shed...... be better if they went elsewhere....

https://www.donedeal.ie/farmersnoticeboard-for-sale/crows-and-pigeons-destroying-your-crops/11211277

Mad_maxx

not sure im allowed reopen this thread as its two years old ?

my mother recently bought a new house , she wanted to be nearer the village for many reasons as she is a widow , house is great , low maintainance garden to boot , however there are are a lot of trees nearby and it looks like there is a rookery nearby , she did not notice it when she first looked at the house in October and neither did i , i live two hours away so only saw the property once

the noise is incessant , grounds covered in sh1t etc #

question is , could you set up a crow banger to run from say 9 AM to 7 PM ? , there are several houses within a hundred metres but the situation is so bad , i think you have to almost be prepared to fall out with them , there is no legislation which outlaws crow bangers so the guards would not be able to do anything about it , neighbours could go to the court themselves but that takes a long time

a rookery is a disaster if left the way it is

Bass Reeves

Mad_maxx wrote: »

not sure im allowed reopen this thread as its two years old ?

my mother recently bought a new house , she wanted to be nearer the village for many reasons as she is a widow , house is great , low maintainance garden to boot , however there are are a lot of trees nearby and it looks like there is a rookery nearby , she did not notice it when she first looked at the house in October and neither did i , i live two hours away so only saw the property once

the noise is incessant , grounds covered in sh1t etc #

question is , could you set up a crow banger to run from say 9 AM to 7 PM ? , there are several houses within a hundred metres but the situation is so bad , i think you have to almost be prepared to fall out with them , there is no legislation which outlaws crow bangers so the guards would not be able to do anything about it , neighbours could go to the court themselves but that takes a long time

a rookery is a disaster if left the way it is

banger may not work you can try it. Shooting may help

Genghis Cant

Mod Note.... In order for crows to be shot legally certain conditions must apply.
Crows ( as far as I'm aware) can only be shot under derogation.
It would be advisable to familiarise yourself with the current regulations beforehand.
Link to example of derogation to follow. Thanks. GC

https://www.npws.ie/legislation/irish-law/eu-birds-directive-derogations

Mad_maxx

can you buy a crow banger in any agri store ?

cute geoge

I don know which is worse listening to crows or listening to a banger .A banger would be a great start with the neighbours

Calahonda52

Mad_maxx wrote: »

not sure im allowed reopen this thread as its two years old ?

my mother recently bought a new house , she wanted to be nearer the village for many reasons as she is a widow , house is great , low maintainance garden to boot , however there are are a lot of trees nearby and it looks like there is a rookery nearby , she did not notice it when she first looked at the house in October and neither did i , i live two hours away so only saw the property once

the noise is incessant , grounds covered in sh1t etc #

question is , could you set up a crow banger to run from say 9 AM to 7 PM ? , there are several houses within a hundred metres but the situation is so bad , i think you have to almost be prepared to fall out with them , there is no legislation which outlaws crow bangers so the guards would not be able to do anything about it , neighbours could go to the court themselves but that takes a long time

a rookery is a disaster if left the way it is

So you are going to create bad blood with her neighbours for your widowed mother.
Nice:eek:

Mad_maxx

cute geoge wrote: »

I don know which is worse listening to crows or listening to a banger .A banger would be a great start with the neighbours

well the situation demands a stern response , you can set them to go off every twenty minutes , hopefully that would help , would not set it to go off every three or four minutes like in a barley crop field

Mad_maxx

Calahonda52 wrote: »

So you are going to create bad blood with her neighbours for your widowed mother.
Nice:eek:

not the intention at all

her windows in the conservatory are ruined with crow sh1t , never mind the driveway

the immediate neighbours sold the house to her so they knew what was in store , would not be too sympathetic

Mimon

Birdnuts wrote: »

Shoot a few and hang them up - rein enforced by a convincing scarecrow usually works.

Don't encourage illegal activity.

Mad_maxx

Mimon wrote: »

Don't encourage illegal activity.

ive no gun so not an option and i dont know her neighbours well enough to ask them even they own a gun ?

Mad_maxx

do the likes of Glanbia sell them in their farm stores ?

Mimon

_Brian wrote: »

The only positive of the buzzards arriving here was their affect on crow population.
It’s a treat to watch the crows fighting them off with their skydiving antics but the population of crows here is a mere fraction with the rookery being abandoned after maybe 30years of use.

Only positive? Your post indicates you little understanding of nature.

Predators higher up the food chain being present will stop secondary predators becoming overabundant. We need to let the countryside become more natural and nature will find a better balance.

Mad_maxx

Mimon wrote: »

Only positive? Your post indicates you little understanding of nature.

Predators higher up the food chain being present will stop secondary predators becoming overabundant. We need to let the countryside become more natural and nature will find a better balance.

yes but pests like rats or crows cannot be left to nature to sort out , too destructive

Mimon

Mad_maxx wrote: »

ive no gun so not an option and i dont know her neighbours well enough to ask them even they own a gun ?

It is illegal to shoot them unless they are being a pest due to destroying agriculture.

Killing them because of bird**** on windows is illegal.

Destroying active nest which they will be now is definitely illegal

"In Ireland all rooks and jackdaws and their active nests are protected by National and European Wildlife Legislation/Directives"

http://www.wildlifemanagement.ie/crows/

Mimon

Mad_maxx wrote: »

yes but pests like rats or crows cannot be left to nature to sort out , too destructive

So you are advocating breaking the law? That's against the charter here.

Mimon

Mad_maxx wrote: »

do the likes of Glanbia sell them in their farm stores ?

Crows? Doubt it

Mad_maxx

Mimon wrote: »

It is illegal to shoot them unless they are being a pest due to destroying agriculture.

Killing them because of bird**** on windows is illegal.

Destroying active nest which they will be now is definitely illegal

"In Ireland all rooks and jackdaws and their active nests are protected by National and European Wildlife Legislation/Directives"

http://www.wildlifemanagement.ie/crows/

please see earlier post , i dont own a gun or know any of my mothers new neighbours who own one , shes moved three miles from her old house

Odelay

You haven't a hope of moving them without killing every one of hem at this time of year. They, like many are bread to breed. this is their time to produce their offspring and they will fight to the death for it. A crow banger wont shift them for long if they think they have the chance of a ride. Think of how easy it is to move a bunch of teenage boys away from girls at the final hours of a music festival.

You might have had some hope moving them on in late January when they were deciding to have their annual love fest again at that site, but not now.
The only way we got rid of them was to top the trees, outside of nesting times.

Mad_maxx

Odelay wrote: »

You haven't a hope of moving them without killing every one of hem at this time of year. They, like many are bread to breed. this is their time to produce their offspring and they will fight to the death for it. A crow banger wont shift them for long if they think they have the chance of a ride. Think of how easy it is to move a bunch of teenage boys away from girls at the final hours of a music festival.

You might have had some hope moving them on in late January when they were deciding to have their annual love fest again at that site, but not now.
The only way we got rid of them was to top the trees, outside of nesting times.

so how long will this group session of mating last ?

YoshiReturns

Are they jackdaws, rooks, magpies, jays, hooded crows, ravens .. all are crows in Ireland ... I'd say they are rooks. There must be a huge number if they are causing so much damage. Very intelligent birds. It's a pity you need to get rid of them and/or your trees. Definitely the wrong time of the year to do it.

Sounds like you'll have to trim your trees in the autumn or they will just keep coming back. And then you are done. Maybe plant a load of native hardwood trees far away from property etc. Any grants for this?

Mad_maxx

Mimon wrote: »

So you are advocating breaking the law? That's against the charter here.

its not against the law to use a crow banger , nothing in legislation against it

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