Best Router for Siro

dg92

Hey guys,

I got Siro installed with Vodafone. The Gigabox is a piece of ****. It constantly drops devices link ring doorbells and wemo plugs off the network, and requires a reboot. I do however get a nice 450/500mb speed on 5ghz wifi on it.

I'm looking to totally get rid of the Gigabox and connect directly to the ONT.

What router would you suggest, that would give me a good 5ghz speed like the Gigabox.

I've used Mikrotik in the past, however it's configuration can be a bit intense and I find it hard to get wifi working to it's full potential.

Thanks!
Dara

Marlow

The Fritz!Box routers, that other SIRO providers use (at least Airwire, Carnsore Broadband, Digiweb and Westnet) gives you that sort of speeds on 5GHz .. and is a far better router.

Airwire also sell these to non-customers.

/M

TheDriver

You can pick the fritz box up on amazon too

demanufactured

It's home broadband, so any soho grade router with Gigabit Ethernet ports will do.

Marlow

demanufactured wrote: »

It's home broadband, so any soho grade router with Gigabit Ethernet ports will do.

Not really. It has to be capable of vlan tagging the wan interface. And that's not something every router can.

Also: Gbit/s interfaces does not mean, that the router can process Gbit/s throughput. Take Virgin Medias router. The Cisco one. It'll barely do the 360 Mbit/s .... can't handle the 500 Mbit/s. But it has Gbit/s interfaces.

/M

demanufactured

Marlow wrote: »

Not really. It has to be capable of vlan tagging the wan interface. And that's not something every router can.

Also: Gbit/s interfaces does not mean, that the router can process Gbit/s throughput. Take Virgin Medias router. The Cisco one. It'll barely do the 360 Mbit/s .... can't handle the 500 Mbit/s. But it has Gbit/s interfaces.

/M

Right so you need a cisco 2911 then.

dg92

Ended up going with an Archer C7. Working perfect - thanks for the recommendations.

acalmenvoy

dg92 wrote: »

Ended up going with an Archer C7. Working perfect - thanks for the recommendations.

is this
the one you got?

dg92

acalmenvoy wrote: »

is this
the one you got?

Yep it is. Ended up going to Currys to grab it as the amazon ones are version 1 of the router, and it doesn’t support vlan tagging. Curry’s has version 4/5. It’s working perfect.

acalmenvoy

dg92 wrote: »

Yep it is. Ended up going to Currys to grab it as the amazon ones are version 1 of the router, and it doesn’t support vlan tagging. Curry’s has version 4/5. It’s working perfect.

Thanks.
Is it just a matter of switching the boxes and putting the voda
User Name: vodafone@vodafone.ie Password: broadband into the c7?

Also is this router good for a lot of devices in the house, 3 pc's, 7 smartphones, 2 playstations, 1 xbox, 2 ring devices, smart lights, plugs, thermostat?
Or would I need something better.

CoBo55

What wireless speeds are you getting?

dg92

acalmenvoy wrote: »

Thanks.
Is it just a matter of switching the boxes and putting the voda
User Name: vodafone@vodafone.ie Password: broadband into the c7?

Also is this router good for a lot of devices in the house, 3 pc's, 7 smartphones, 2 playstations, 1 xbox, 2 ring devices, smart lights, plugs, thermostat?
Or would I need something better.

No worries. The username is yourgigaboxserialnumber@vfieftth.ie and the password is broadband. You then need to go into the IPTV menu, click advanced and set the vlan id to 10. It connects near enough straight away then.

I have about the same amount of devices connected and it works perfect!

dg92

CoBo55 wrote: »

What wireless speeds are you getting?

Right beside it on 5ghz i'm getting 500mb. Plugged in it's getting 1.2gb on Speedtest.net

acalmenvoy

dg92 wrote: »

No worries. The username is yourgigaboxserialnumber@vfieftth.ie and the password is broadband. You then need to go into the IPTV menu, click advanced and set the vlan id to 10. It connects near enough straight away then.

I have about the same amount of devices connected and it works perfect!

Thanks for that. Heading down to curry's now.

acalmenvoy

Do I still need the Vodafone box. Or does this replace it.

dg92

acalmenvoy wrote: »

Do I still need the Vodafone box. Or does this replace it.

That replaces it.

acalmenvoy

dg92 wrote: »

Ended up going with an Archer C7. Working perfect - thanks for the recommendations.

Using this for 6 weeks now, it is unbelievable, the difference is night and day.
Smart home devices work constantly now, sky mini boxes are flawless, wifi perfect. Haven't had to reboot the router once.
Why do vodafone provide such a dog sh1t device with a top quality service, the mind boggles...

dg92

acalmenvoy wrote: »

Using this for 6 weeks now, it is unbelievable, the difference is night and day.
Smart home devices work constantly now, sky mini boxes are flawless, wifi perfect. Haven't had to reboot the router once.
Why do vodafone provide such a dog sh1t device with a top quality service, the mind boggles...

I’m super happy with it also! Highly recommend to anyone who wants to get rid of the Vodafone gigabox. Most useless router ever.

Sup08

Hi Lads
Would this router do the same?
replace the gigbox. Not sure about Vlan tagging and how that works

Thanks
EXO AC2600 MU‑MIMO Wi‑Fi Router

dg92

Nope, it would not replace the Gigabox. It's just a router rather than a modem.

Sup08 wrote: »

Hi Lads
Would this router do the same?
replace the gigbox. Not sure about Vlan tagging and how that works

Thanks
EXO AC2600 MU‑MIMO Wi‑Fi Router

Sup08

dg92 wrote: »

Nope, it would not replace the Gigabox. It's just a router rather than a modem.

Thanks but isn't the Archer C7 just a router as well?

What would be the difference with the one I suggested. It has VLAN ID for internet and login details.

dg92

Nope, The Archer C7 is a modem also.

If you take a look at the answer section on Amazon, you'll see someone asked and the answer was that it is just a router and not a Modem.

Sup08 wrote: »

Thanks but isn't the Archer C7 just a router as well?

What would be the difference with the one I suggested. It has VLAN ID for internet and login details.

dam099

dg92 wrote: »

Nope, it would not replace the Gigabox. It's just a router rather than a modem.

Sup08 wrote: »

You don’t need a modem on Siro, you can connect a router straight to the ONT. It will need to support VLAN tagging and if you get phone from Vodafone too it won’t work (and possibly their TV service too).

Sup08

You don’t need a modem on Siro, you can connect a router straight to the ONT. It will need to support VLAN tagging and if you get phone from Vodafone too it won’t work (and possibly their TV service too).

Thanks, I think it does
Says it has triple play VLAN.

From the website

Triple Play VLAN allows support for ISPs who offer a multi-service plan. Services such as Internet, voice (VoIP), and video (IPTV) can connect with a single WAN connection and you can then separate each channel to a specific port. For example, you can set all VoIP traffic to port 4 on the router and then connect any VoIP devices to that port.

Step 5: Click either VLAN Settings or Status to Enable.

Step 6: Enter the VLAN ID (supplied by your ISP) for each service. You can enable Priority ID and select from the drop-down for each service. Under Interface Traffic Type Settings, assign a service to a LAN port on the router. Click Save.

I don't have a phone or their tv service

Sup08

You don’t need a modem on Siro, you can connect a router straight to the ONT. It will need to support VLAN tagging and if you get phone from Vodafone too it won’t work (and possibly their TV service too).

Well got it delivered this morning and working perfect. Just get the right settings for best wireless speed.

tuxy

dg92 wrote: »

Nope, The Archer C7 is a modem also.

If you take a look at the answer section on Amazon, you'll see someone asked and the answer was that it is just a router and not a Modem.

What modulation-demodulaion is it doing and why would it need to for SIRO?
Isn't it the job of the ONT to do this work for FTTH?

evostik

Is the Archer C7 still the best alternative to the Vodafone Gigabox?

Will all services (phone, tv & broadband) work with this router?

Thanks.

TBi

I successfully replaced my Gigabox router with a ubiquiti edgerouter x. Network inside the house is a lot more stable now. My wireless is now done with TP-LINK EAP225v3s which are spread out around the house.

I had to manually enable HWNAT offloading on the edgerouter to get full gigabit speed but it's working well.

WAN+2LAN2 from wizard.

dukelamonty

Hi Folks,
Curry's currently advertise the Archer C7 online at this link: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/networking/network-routers-and-switches/routers/tp-link-archer-c7-wireless-cable-router-ac-1750-dual-band-21472770-pdt.html
I can't see anything to indicate that it's version 4 or 5 as opposed to an older version that may not work. Would anyone know from appearance or any of the limited list of specs provided on the Curry's listing? I do note that it is reduced in price relative to the price in Sept-Oct-Nov last year which makes me worried it may be older versions from older stock.
I've emailed Curry's support but in the current lockdown I'm not over-optimistic of a prompt, well-informed reply ... if any reply at all.
- PeterG.

CoBo55

dukelamonty wrote: »

Hi Folks,
Curry's currently advertise the Archer C7 online at this link: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/networking/network-routers-and-switches/routers/tp-link-archer-c7-wireless-cable-router-ac-1750-dual-band-21472770-pdt.html
I can't see anything to indicate that it's version 4 or 5 as opposed to an older version that may not work. Would anyone know from appearance or any of the limited list of specs provided on the Curry's listing? I do note that it is reduced in price relative to the price in Sept-Oct-Nov last year which makes me worried it may be older versions from older stock.
I've emailed Curry's support but in the current lockdown I'm not over-optimistic of a prompt, well-informed reply ... if any reply at all.
- PeterG.

Just get the C8 I've a C8 on VM with the VM router in modem mode, it's a fantastic router, never had a bother with it. You won't need to use your ISP supplied router you can just use it on its own.

dukelamonty

Thanks. Do you use the C8 with Siro. From the discussions above, there seems to be a requirement to support VLANs in order for Siro to work.
Regards,
PeterG.

CoBo55

dukelamonty wrote: »

Thanks. Do you use the C8 with Siro. From the discussions above, there seems to be a requirement to support VLANs in order for Siro to work.
Regards,
PeterG.

I'm using it with VM at the moment, siro not in my area yet I'm waiting patiently it's due to be available in June. Yes the C8 does support vLan tagging, I haven't had to use it yet but I'm sure there are guides available.

dukelamonty

CoBo55 wrote: »

I'm using it with VM at the moment, siro not in my area yet I'm waiting patiently it's due to be available in June. Yes the C8 does support vLan tagging, I haven't had to use it yet but I'm sure there are guides available.

Great. Thanks for taking the time to comment and subsequently reply. Much appreciated. -PeterG.

Boxcar_Willie

I'm on Vodafone Siro and having non-stop problems , dropping devices , needing rebooting etc ..
I'm going to replace with the Archer router.
Just wondering as I've always had wifi issues upstairs ( I've been told that's due to the underfloor insulation ) would it be possible to use two routers , one downstairs where the Siro comes into the house , and another one upstairs ?
I already have a Cat 5 cable running up to little Tommys XBox up there .
Any advice would be greatly appreciated .

heroics

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

I'm on Vodafone Siro and having non-stop problems , dropping devices , needing rebooting etc ..
I'm going to replace with the Archer router.
Just wondering as I've always had wifi issues upstairs ( I've been told that's due to the underfloor insulation ) would it be possible to use two routers , one downstairs where the Siro comes into the house , and another one upstairs ?
I already have a Cat 5 cable running up to little Tommys XBox up there .
Any advice would be greatly appreciated .

Yes you can. Router downstairs and an access point plugged into the cable upstairs.

I’d wait and see what coverage is like with the Archer. I Use a ubiquity WAP for WiFi instead of the Vodafone one and coverage is way better and much more reliable

Boxcar_Willie

heroics wrote: »

Yes you can. Router downstairs and an access point plugged into the cable upstairs.

I’d wait and see what coverage is like with the Archer. I Use a ubiquity WAP for WiFi instead of the Vodafone one and coverage is way better and much more reliable

Thanks for that .
Is it just a matter of connecting via Cat 5 cable ( Ethernet port to Ethernet port ) and plugging in ?

heroics

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

Thanks for that .
Is it just a matter of connecting via Cat 5 cable ( Ethernet port to Ethernet port ) and plugging in ?

Depending on the devices as to how much config there is. A WiFi mesh system with cable for the back haul could be an option. Some suggestions in this thread

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058072654/4

TBi

My system is an Edgerouter with 2x TP Link EAP-225's. One is mounted in the middle of the house downstairs, the other on the landing upstairs. Both centralised so much better wifi connection everywhere.

I had tried using a second wifi router with my vodafone (a TP-Link Archer VR900) but for some reason it would never give out DHCP addresses over wifi.

Roy Rogers

I'm looking for an addition/replacement for a Vodafone Gigabox on SIRO due to its abysmal wifi. Thanks to the useful discussion in this thread, I'm leaning towards replacing the box entirely with the TP-Link Archer C7.

An earlier post mentioned that the v1 model doesn't support VLAN tagging, which is required. Is there any way to tell from a site listing which version I'm looking at? (For reference, there's Komplett and Currys).

Additionally, is there any benefit (or drawback) to going with the AC2300 instead? It seems to get good reviews, though I'm not sure what the higher spec means in real use. I won't be putting the network under heavy load so I suspect the extra €30 would be wasted. But if there's a compelling reason (future-proofing, for example) I might be open to it.

TheDriver

Roy Rogers wrote: »

I'm looking for an addition/replacement for a Vodafone Gigabox on SIRO due to its abysmal wifi. Thanks to the useful discussion in this thread, I'm leaning towards replacing the box entirely with the TP-Link Archer C7.

An earlier post mentioned that the v1 model doesn't support VLAN tagging, which is required. Is there any way to tell from a site listing which version I'm looking at? (For reference, there's Komplett and Currys).

Additionally, is there any benefit (or drawback) to going with the AC2300 instead? It seems to get good reviews, though I'm not sure what the higher spec means in real use. I won't be putting the network under heavy load so I suspect the extra €30 would be wasted. But if there's a compelling reason (future-proofing, for example) I might be open to it.

would you be better off using the gigabox for bringing the internet to the house and them a mesh system for the wifi element? wouldn't be a massive cost difference

CoBo55

Roy Rogers wrote: »

I'm looking for an addition/replacement for a Vodafone Gigabox on SIRO due to its abysmal wifi. Thanks to the useful discussion in this thread, I'm leaning towards replacing the box entirely with the TP-Link Archer C7.

An earlier post mentioned that the v1 model doesn't support VLAN tagging, which is required. Is there any way to tell from a site listing which version I'm looking at? (For reference, there's Komplett and Currys).

Additionally, is there any benefit (or drawback) to going with the AC2300 instead? It seems to get good reviews, though I'm not sure what the higher spec means in real use. I won't be putting the network under heavy load so I suspect the extra €30 would be wasted. But if there's a compelling reason (future-proofing, for example) I might be open to it.

Get the C8 it's a brilliant router you don't have to worry about version number.

Roy Rogers

TheDriver wrote: »

would you be better off using the gigabox for bringing the internet to the house and them a mesh system for the wifi element? wouldn't be a massive cost difference

I started with that line of thought, to be honest, but €75 to simply replace the gigabox and not mess about with additional devices seemed simpler as well as cheaper. House is about 140 sq m so a big mesh system seemed like overkill if a good router would do the job. Would you recommend a mesh system instead?

CoBo55 wrote:

Get the C8 it's a brilliant router you don't have to worry about version number.

Fair point, but I didn't spot it stocked anywhere with a quick look! (Out of stock on Amazon and haven't looked anywhere else yet.)

Static M.e.

The Archer C8 seems to be end of life. Anyone know what the latest equivalent model is?

CoBo55

Static M.e. wrote: »

The Archer C8 seems to be end of life. Anyone know what the latest equivalent model is?

C9? There's a C9 on Amazon.

John_McMahon

Hi Guys,
I recently switched to Vodafone broadband, package deal 1gb siro broadband, tv and phone. The router from Vodafone has terrible wifi coverage so thought I would switch it out for a TP link mesh system. I have this plugged directly to ont and setup pppoe with vlan on the tplink which works great, coverage all over the house now. The issue I have is the TV no longer works or the phone. I don't care about the phone but is there anyway to get the tv working with this setup. I have a setting on the tplink that converts one of the ethernet ports to iptv but not sure if there are certain settings required to do this. Anybody know if this is possible and what the settings should be?

tonyfillony

Siro is being rolled out in my area currently so still a few months before i can get it . I currently have virgin media and they router the provided is awful . Im currently looking at the Archer A7 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Archer-A7-Wireless-Combined-Supports/dp/B00416PTDW/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Archer%2BA7&qid=1589897243&s=computers&sr=1-1&th=1 . I plan to bridge my Virgin box once i get this but im wondering does this router support Vlan tagging so that i wont need the vodafone gigabox once im able to get Siro?

tonyfillony

tonyfillony wrote: »

Siro is being rolled out in my area currently so still a few months before i can get it . I currently have virgin media and they router the provided is awful . Im currently looking at the Archer A7 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Archer-A7-Wireless-Combined-Supports/dp/B00416PTDW/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Archer%2BA7&qid=1589897243&s=computers&sr=1-1&th=1 . I plan to bridge my Virgin box once i get this but im wondering does this router support Vlan tagging so that i wont need the vodafone gigabox once im able to get Siro?

Nevermind , A7 is the C7 but is an amazon exclusive that has Alexa integration

Mc Love

I have a DSL-AC68U for a few years would that be suitable for FTTH?

jonny_b

Hey guys is this still the best priced router to switch the gigabox with? I have Vodafone TV but no big deal if it doesn't work on it as I've used it twice in the last year.

aristotle25

Would this router, linked below, replace a Vodafone Gigabox Router that comes with SIRO? I am looking to get more stability on my wifi as I have one device that has issues keeping a good connection.

https://www.tp-link.com/uk/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-ax90/v1/

aristotle25

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117696518#Comment_117696518

Going to answer my own question here, I bought that tplink ax6600 router and got it working with vodafone fibre (siro).

There are a few settings you need to change on the router, mainly...

• change internet connection type to PPPoE
• enter a username of serialNumber@vfieftth.ie where serialNumber is the serial number on the back of your Vodafone Router
• password of broadband
• enable IPTV/VLAN and choose "custom" option
• enter Internet vlan ID of 10
• it needs a vlan ID for VOIP and IPTV as well, I just entered a 2 and a 3 there, dont know what they should be but I dont have VOIP or IPTV from vodafone so guess it doesnt matter
• enable the 802.1Q Tag
• I enabled OFDMA, TWT on the wireless options

And then it all worked, I named by wifi network the same as the old one and the same password and all clients connected ok. Job done.