Are the clocks going back in October this year or what?

Spanish Eyes

Too lazy to do a search, very sorry.

AFAIK the clocks will go forward as usual end of March this year, but am not sure if the clock will go back in October this year.

Does anyone know?

wirelessdude01

No decision made as far as I know.

Widdensushi

Or what

RMAOK

Thought it was being deferred until 2020

MicraBoy

I know the answer but I'm too lazy to tell you.

dxhound2005

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Too lazy to do a search, very sorry.

AFAIK the clocks will go forward as usual end of March this year, but am not sure if the clock will go back in October this year.

Does anyone know?

I haven't got time to do a search now. When do you need to know?

TheValeyard

So, I should still put off trying to figure out how to change the clock on my car?

Spanish Eyes

Ah yer all gas.

Just wondered if anyone knows. Apparently not, including myself!

Thanks anyway.

Updates welcome for the lazies amongst us though....

freshpopcorn

I looked this up last year October and from what I remember the clocks are going back in October this year

Odhinn

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

So, I should still put off trying to figure out how to change the clock on my car?

It'll be right again in a few months anyway.

TheValeyard

Odhinn wrote: »

It'll be right again in a few months anyway.

Easier than changing it.

Odhinn

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Easier than changing it.

They're fiddly bastards, tis true.

Spanish Eyes

I really thought that this Spring was the last time we had to change the clocks forevermore. Permanent Summer Time from now on.

But hey, it is obviously not that simple.

I blame Brexit, all these very important issues have been sidelined.

Anyway, if anyone has an update, it is very welcome, and thank you.

Paddy Cow

Originally I heard they were aiming for 2021. Then I heard it was this year. No idea really. Brexit has taken over everything.

Odhinn

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I really thought that this Spring was the last time we had to change the clocks forevermore. Permanent Summer Time from now on.

But hey, it is obviously not that simple.

I blame Brexit, all these very important issues have been sidelined.

Anyway, if anyone has an update, it is very welcome, and thank you.

...the Brits....always the Brits.

Cushie Butterfield

Time will tell

Odhinn

Odhinn wrote: »

...the Brits....always the Brits.

I didn't do nuthin'

Mr.Crinklewood

RMAOK wrote: »

Thought it was being deferred until 2020

Or maybe 1920

4068ac1elhodqr

Whatever the European high lords decide is best.

Pity the folks with concrete sundials in the patio, all that digging and moving twice a year.

Mr.Crinklewood

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Or maybe 1920

Well, it's 19:20 now and still no decison. :P

RobertKK

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-time/eu-seeks-to-scrap-seasonal-clock-changes-in-2019-idUSKCN1LU1O4

“There will be no more seasonal clock changes as of the end of October 2019,” Commissioner Violeta Bulc told a news conference on Friday, acknowledging that this relied on others following the Commission’s “ambitious” schedule.

The proposal follows an EU survey drawing in a record 4.6 million responses and showing 84 percent of them opposed to seasonal clock changes.

The Commission also says seasonal time switches are outdated, implemented during World War One and Two and the 1970s oil crisis to save energy.

“Newer studies confirm that the energy savings are nowadays marginal,” Commission Vice-President Maros Sefcovic said. “We are clearly heading toward smart cities, smart buildings and smart solutions which will bring much more savings than changes of the clock.”

RobertKK

RobertKK wrote: »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-time/eu-seeks-to-scrap-seasonal-clock-changes-in-2019-idUSKCN1LU1O4

Note the date of the article

September 14, 2018 / 1:20 PM / 5 months ago

RobertKK

Our government said they would have a public consultation on it...heard nothing, did the EU survey and voted for year round summer time...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-public-to-be-consulted-on-proposed-clock-changes-1.3648823

The Government has confirmed it will carry out a public consultation on whether the State should end the practice of changing the clocks in spring and autumn.

Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan, whose department is responsible for informing the general public of winter and summertime changes, said last month he had an open mind on the debate on whether or not to continue daylight savings.

His comments followed the European Commission’s proposal in September to end the biannual clock changes across the EU as early as 2019 and its call for member states to decide whether they wanted to maintain permanent summer or winter time.

The last mandatory clock change is set to take place on Sunday, March 31st, 2019. Member states must notify the commission by April 2019 on whether they want to opt for permanent summer or winter time under the new structure.

Anyone involved or take part in the public consultation?

Spanish Eyes

RobertKK wrote: »

Our government said they would have a public consultation on it...heard nothing, did the EU survey and voted for year round summer time...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-public-to-be-consulted-on-proposed-clock-changes-1.3648823

Anyone involved or take part in the public consultation?

Me, me! I responded to something or other a few months back and opted for permanent Summer Time. Never heard anything more though, that's why I wondered.

RobertKK

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Me, me! I responded to something or other a few months back and opted for permanent Summer Time. Never heard anything more though, that's why I wondered.

Was it the EU consultation or our government and their invisible public consultation?

Vologda69

https://www.politico.eu/article/transport-ministers-countries-say-no-to-juncker-commission-daylight-saving-clock-change-plan/

Looking at 2021 as possible date for scrapping daylght saving.

igCorcaigh

What if we ditch summer/winter time and the UK doesn't.

Does that mean we could nip across the border for a last pint before closing time?

Odhinn

Candie wrote: »

I didn't do nuthin'

..the dinosaurs, the dodo, the wreck of the hesperus, ireland winning the eurovision.......

Spanish Eyes

igCorcaigh wrote: »

What if we ditch summer/winter time and the UK doesn't.

Does that mean we could nip across the border for a last pint before closing time?

Might need a visa or something after Brexit though.

(I know, I know, about the CTA, just messing)

Spanish Eyes

RobertKK wrote: »

Was it the EU consultation or our government and their invisible public consultation?

Not sure, I think it was from here though. Opted for perm Summer Time.

Paddy Cow

RobertKK wrote: »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-time/eu-seeks-to-scrap-seasonal-clock-changes-in-2019-idUSKCN1LU1O4

“There will be no more seasonal clock changes as of the end of October 2019,” Commissioner Violeta Bulc told a news conference on Friday, acknowledging that this relied on others following the Commission’s “ambitious” schedule.

Hang on. Does that mean that when the clocks go back on 31st October they will stay like that? Because that's not what I was hoping for. I thought they were going to stick with summer time? I HATE it with a passion when the clocks go back and it's all dark and dreary

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I looked this up last year October and from what I remember the clocks are going back in October this year

Good. Damn clocks coming over here and stealing our jobs and out using as a welfare charity!

Vologda69

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Hang on. Does that mean that when the clocks go back on 31st October they will stay like that? Because that's not what I was hoping for. I thought they were going to stick with summer time? I HATE it with a passion when the clocks go back and it's all dark and dreary

Mornings would be darker for longer and evenings a bit brighter in winter. But it's the dark mornings I hate more.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Hang on. Does that mean that when the clocks go back on 31st October they will stay like that? Because that's not what I was hoping for. I thought they were going to stick with summer time? I HATE it with a passion when the clocks go back and it's all dark and dreary

Forward and back as per normal, then that's it. No changes at all next year (winter time is normal time - as in GMT for us - it's only in summer that it changes).

If they moved forward and stayed there, GMT would move to CET, and CET would move to EET (east european time).

NB - this is, as far as I know, still at the proposal stage and not confirmed.

igCorcaigh

igCorcaigh wrote: »

What if we ditch summer/winter time and the UK doesn't.

Does that mean we could nip across the border for a last pint before closing time?

Brexit or no Brexit, I would imagine the UK will follow suit for the same reasons others want to drop the time changes.

eyerer

I would rather it keep changing than keep GMT year round. I was hoping they were gonna keep summer time/CET year round.
Will be interesting to see what Britain does if this goes ahead.

eyerer

eyerer wrote: »

I would rather it keep changing than keep GMT year round. I was hoping they were gonna keep summer time/CET year round.
Will be interesting to see what Britain does if this goes ahead.

The plan is (as far as I know) to go to summertime and never change back to winter time.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Deleted User wrote: »

The plan is (as far as I know) to go to summertime and never change back to winter time.

Can we not just... never go back to winter?!

Clocks going forward is the same weekend as Brexit, so I think the UK will be too busy that weekend to implement a time change.

Spanish Eyes

Deleted User wrote: »

The plan is (as far as I know) to go to summertime and never change back to winter time.

When though? That is the question!

igCorcaigh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The plan is (as far as I know) to go to summertime and never change back to winter time.

Won't someone think of the farmers?!

dxhound2005

I think the plan is to change the clocks only once a year instead of twice.

youcantakethat

Skylar Loud Stovepipe wrote: »

Whatever the European high lords decide is best.

They reckon we will be busy enough erecting a hard border (that nobody in these islands want) for our Masters in Brussels this year. Next year they will want us to be European time, just like they kept us tied to European interest rates (which suited Germany) during our boom.

Cork Boy 53

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I think the plan is to change the clocks only once a year instead of twice.

Assuming that all year round summertime is the chosen option there will be only one clock change on the last Sunday in March in whatever year the new system comes into effect. After that there will be no more clock changes at all.

Spanish Eyes

So no one knows really.

Brexiteers will laugh out fkn loud at the efficiency of this proposal.

I know it is low on the agenda, but it is a marker all the same.

Spanish Eyes

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Assuming that all year round summertime is the chosen option there will be only one clock change on the last Sunday in March in whatever year the new system comes into effect. After that there will be no more clock changes at all.

Why change the clocks at all? I cannot get my head around this. As you will have noticed!

Uh OK maybe a change for year one, and then off we go. Sorry I probably responded too quickly.

4068ac1elhodqr

Simple solution would be to launch a synthetic sun up in a geostationary orbit,
shinning it's reflective rays of sunjoy upon the entire Eastern side of the Island (from 6am-10am, then 4pm-8pm during winter).
The West rains too much anyway so they can make all the butter and farm stuff over there.

Teddy Daniels

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Hang on. Does that mean that when the clocks go back on 31st October they will stay like that? Because that's not what I was hoping for. I thought they were going to stick with summer time? I HATE it with a passion when the clocks go back and it's all dark and dreary

This

dxhound2005

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

So no one knows really.

Brexiteers will laugh out fkn loud at the efficiency of this proposal.

I know it is low on the agenda, but it is a marker all the same.

They won't be laughing when the Prime Meridian is moved from London to Paris. That will happen if there is a hard Brexit.

Teddy Daniels

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I think the plan is to change the clocks only once a year instead of twice.

No

Teddy Daniels

dxhound2005 wrote: »

They won't be laughing when the Prime Meridian is moved from London to Paris. That will happen if there is a hard Brexit.

Ok lol

Spanish Eyes

This is just so confusing.

So is it a once a year change, No change or what?

And what is the result?

Have to say I am totally baffled now. But that's not unusual for me either.