Ever been robbed by a close friend/family member?

noubliezjamais

There's always talk of getting your phone/purse/wallet nicked by a junkie on O'Connell street but I've heard most thefts, just like murders, are done by people close to you.

Either nicking money or items to pawn off. I've had an experience with both of these from a friend and cousin.

BBFAN

Yep, had a relation who was a complete kleptomaniac. Had to take my purse with me whenever she was in the house, it's horrible.

Books & DVDs were quietly purloined by a neighbour. A declutter expert.

whiskeyman

My brother used to be a clincial kleptomaniac, but he's taking something for it...

Giveaway

mother-in-law robbed me
sister in law pocketed 12000dollars from MILs savings account after she died but got caught

punisher5112

I gave a friend a lend to help with rent.

Nearly €5k I never got it back.

Fcuking scum bag.

Your Face

Usually it's a loan of items that I never get back.


As regards cash, once I had turn up at a lads house to my loaned cash from him.

I also took from a fella who was boasting about robbing other people.

Never. Friends are friends, and money is money. You don't mix them.

Lending anything to a mate in excess of €50 is a recipe for disaster, just don't do it. It's money, and no friendship is contingent on sharing money.

Money and friends are like Oil and Water. They don't mix well, and they never will.

Snow Garden

whiskeyman wrote: »

My brother used to be a clincial kleptomaniac, but he's taking something for it...

heldel00

Deleted User wrote: »

Books & DVDs were quietly purloined by a neighbour. A declutter expert.

Purloined - great word.

freshpopcorn

Not really from friends/family.
Food etc got stolen at college.

punisher5112

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Not really from friends/family.
Food etc got stolen at college.

Eaten at college eaten....

SlowBlowin

Have a family member (step daughter) who is a heroin addict, so thats a very big yes. All members of my family have been touched by her requirement for cash or things easily converted.

We also now, later on in our lives than we bargained for, have a 10 year old who lives with us, and we are now his legal guardians.

denismc

My wife spends all my money!

noubliezjamais

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Have a family member (step daughter) who is a heroin addict, so thats a very big yes. All members of my family have been touched by her requirement for cash or things easily converted.

We also now, later on in our lives than we bargained for, have a 10 year old who lives with us, and we are now his legal guardians.

hope it's not to prying but could you give a backstory?

An important book on Python was lent by me. Never got it back. I was simply told it was utterly useless. So I bought it new again.

FTA69

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Have a family member (step daughter) who is a heroin addict, so thats a very big yes. All members of my family have been touched by her requirement for cash or things easily converted.

We also now, later on in our lives than we bargained for, have a 10 year old who lives with us, and we are now his legal guardians.

That’s awful but ye’re great people for taking in your relative and giving him the life he deserves.

I feel sorry for addicts, but they’re the most selfish destructive people going.

FTA69

A very good friend of mine over here, an Irish tradesman with a great job and apartment etc became a degenerate drug addict and borrowed money off me twice with no intention of paying it back.

He’d let me stay at his gaff for two weeks when I split with my ex so the first time I thought nothing of it, the second time he rang me and I knew something was up but sort of felt obligated to him for putting me up.

Next thing I saw a picture of him in the paper with him wanted for robbing an elderly man at knifepoint. He’d gone full blown on crack and heroin; he’s doing a hefty sentence in prison now over it.

noubliezjamais

FTA69 wrote: »

That’s awful but ye’re great people for taking in your relative and giving him the life he deserves.

I feel sorry for addicts, but they’re the most selfish destructive people going.

Ahh, in all fairness no they're not. Some of them have untreated mental illnesses.

And by the looks of it, she isn't in prison or had contact with Gardai so she never stole. I bet your tune would be different if it was for gambling or a shopping addiction.

FTA69

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Ahh, in all fairness no they're not. Some of them have untreated mental illnesses.

And by the looks of it, she isn't in prison or had contact with Gardai so she never stole. I bet your tune would be different if it was for gambling or a shopping addiction.

Look obviously everyone is different, I’m just relating to my own experiences of watching people drink themselves to death or bang sh*t up their arm while dragging their loved ones down with them with worry and expense and the rest of it.

Lorelli!

Ye I know a woman who was a bit of a kleptomaniac. Once one of my mother's rings went missing after she'd been in the house and my mam knew it was her but never said anything.

Anyway she must have had a change of heart or realised it wasn't worth much because she returned the ring a few weeks later with the explanation that when my mam was wiping down the counter, the ring flew off it and automatically landed straight on her finger!

She is a nice lady really though. How could you not love someone who'd have the neck to come up with that excuse?? :pac:

noubliezjamais

FTA69 wrote: »

Look obviously everyone is different, I’m just relating to my own experiences of watching people drink themselves to death or bang sh*t up their arm while dragging their loved ones down with them with worry and expense and the rest of it.

There's also a misconception that addicts (specifically heroin) are mostly from the lower class. Is this true?

noubliezjamais

FTA69 wrote: »

A very good friend of mine over here, an Irish tradesman with a great job and apartment etc became a degenerate drug addict and borrowed money off me twice with no intention of paying it back.

He’d let me stay at his gaff for two weeks when I split with my ex so the first time I thought nothing of it, the second time he rang me and I knew something was up but sort of felt obligated to him for putting me up.

Next thing I saw a picture of him in the paper with him wanted for robbing an elderly man at knifepoint. He’d gone full blown on crack and heroin; he’s doing a hefty sentence in prison now over it.

Did he steal from you while you were at his gaff? How much he borrow?

branie2

Thankfully, none

Hedgelayer

I know a guy he's a recovering addict, a right hungry ****er.
If you called to his house and had a coffee, he'd tell you how much it was worth in the local cafe.

The prick then has an imaginary friend who he hands his will and life over to every morning.

So if he robs or ****s someone over, it's not his fault because his imaginary friend willed it.

Another time he went to an old woman's place to put down a patio, seen old vintage farm machinery, suggested it was useless and charged her extra to take it away.
Sold it on eBay cleared nearly a grand.

He robbed me a few times, too but eventually he ****ed up and karma roasted him.

I suggested that his magic sky fairy willed it...

We're no longer friends

Addict's or exe addict's are not to be trusted....

corner of hells

I worked as a self employed contactor a good few years ago and got ripped off to the tune of a thousand Euro by a "friend" , just would not pay up , always had an excuse.

The pox owed money everywhere but still lived the high life , however he was off sunning his bollix in Thailand for three weeks when his McMansion was broken into by an acquaintance who removed the stairs and floorboards from his house .

FTA69

noubliezjamais wrote: »

There's also a misconception that addicts (specifically heroin) are mostly from the lower class. Is this true?

There are heroin addicts of all classes, cocaine addiction transcends class. Alcoholism is absolutely rife amongst wealthy retired professionals because they’ve nothing else to do. Prescription drugs are another one.

Addiction is exacerbated by poverty but it’s something not at all confined to the poor.

LogicusRex

whiskeyman wrote:

My brother used to be a clincial kleptomaniac, but he's taking something for it...

You can't be ironic with a kleptomaniac. They take things literally.

noubliezjamais

FTA69 wrote: »

There are heroin addicts of all classes, cocaine addiction transcends class. Alcoholism is absolutely rife amongst wealthy retired professionals because they’ve nothing else to do. Prescription drugs are another one.

Addiction is exacerbated by poverty but it’s something not at all confined to the poor.

Then why do we never hear about heroin addicts in the middle class? I always hear about people using coke, weed but never heroin or valium,xanax. Is there a stigma against heroin use.

corner of hells

Hedgelayer wrote: »

I know a guy he's a recovering addict, a right hungry ****er.
If you called to his house and had a coffee, he'd tell you how much it was worth in the local cafe.

The prick then has an imaginary friend who he hands his will and life over to every morning.

So if he robs or ****s someone over, it's not his fault because his imaginary friend willed it.

Another time he went to an old woman's place to put down a patio, seen old vintage farm machinery, suggested it was useless and charged her extra to take it away.
Sold it on eBay cleared nearly a grand.

He robbed me a few times, too but eventually he ****ed up and karma roasted him.

I suggested that his magic sky fairy willed it...

We're no longer friends

Addict's or exe addict's are not to be trusted....

He believes in the sky fairy , has an imaginary friend and you believe in karma .

Hedgelayer

corner of hells wrote: »

He believes in the sky fairy , has an imaginary friend and you believe in karma .

No I don't believe in karma...

Where did I quote that ?

corner of hells

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Then why do we never hear about heroin addicts in the middle class? I always hear about people using coke, weed but never heroin or valium,xanax. Is there a stigma against heroin use.

I've worked with a couple of heroin addicts originally from well to do backgrounds.

corner of hells

Hedgelayer wrote: »

No I don't believe in karma...

Where did I quote that ?

Your fifth paragraph.

Hedgelayer

corner of hells wrote: »

Your fifth paragraph.

Can you read ?

I never said I believe in karma.

I was trying to add irony to his story.

Read it again

punisher5112

Opioid addiction is an up and coming epidemic.

In the US it's destroyed people and families big time and only getting worse.

Look up documentaries on it it's extremely interesting and of course sad too.

Doctors were against opioids in the 90s and then 00s they are prescribed for anything and everything.

All classes from tough areas to upper class... Hate those terms but hey that's what it is.

corner of hells

Hedgelayer wrote: »

Can you read ?

I never said I believe in karma.

I was trying to add irony to his story.

Read it again

"He robbed me a few times, too but eventually he ****ed up and karma roasted him."

Church on Tuesday

I learned a while ago that you can't really trust people; be they family or friends.

You never know what someone is thinking inside their mind.

Hedgelayer

corner of hells wrote: »

"He robbed me a few times, too but eventually he ****ed up and karma roasted him."

Same here, he's a right prck isn't he.

Did he charge you for coffee too

Oink

Best friend owes me 50 quid. He definitely, absolutely, pinky-swear, put it in an envelope and mailed it to me. It’s been 23 years so it should be here any day now.

Yeah ar$ewipe, I’ll return your phone calls when the mail comes in.

corner of hells

Hedgelayer wrote: »

Same here, he's a right prck isn't he.

Did he charge you for coffee too

The irony is he managed to rob you a few times , me being not able to read and all that.

Hedgelayer

corner of hells wrote: »

The irony is he managed to rob you a few times , me being not able to read and all that.

He was very competitive too and loved winning.

SlowBlowin

noubliezjamais wrote: »

hope it's not to prying but could you give a backstory?

My wife had 2 kids boy and girl. The son grew up, got a good job and married, bought a house started a family. The daughter left home at 17, and essentially disappeared, only resurfacing at Christmas, and maybe a couple of visits a year. She became a single parent and later moved in with her new boyfriends family in Scotland.

We heard nothing for a few years then a frantic few days when she says she was beaten by her boyfriend and he was locked up. My wife flew to scotland and we paid for her to move what belongings she had back to the southcoast of the Uk where we were living at the time. We gave her the deposit so she could rent a small house, furnished it, etc. For a short time she seemed to be "normal", then she started stealing from us during house visits. She stole from me, my wife, her grandmother (nicked her wedding ring), fabricated stories of mugging or "I left my purse in the taxi" to get money from the newsagents, the pub etc etc. It seemed everyone, related or not, had a story about how she had conned them out of money.

We had very little contact for some time, and then I got a call from the police drug squad to say they had just seized a boy in a raid on a heroin dealer. It was the daughters house, by this time there were 7 people staying in the 2 bedrooms, including our grandson (by this stage the house had no functioning toilets). The police said the boy would go into care unless we had him, so we did.

She (daughter) has since gone completely downhill, living rough, unable to get help because she was burnt bridges with all the help organisations, by starting with them all multiple times, and then using them.

My wife and I went to court and obtained the maximum legal rights we could, we then retired early and moved back to Ireland with the grandson. Unrelated but at this point my wife was diagnosed with stage 3 Hodgkins Lymphoma, but she is now in remission after 6 months of chemo.

People regularly say what a great thing we have done, but as Tony says "what you going to do". If you are a halfway reasonable person you would not let a family member go into care.

The grandson has lots of issues, but we are getting great help from his school and others, he is a great kid as we both love him very much. When he came to us he was 7, we taught him to eat with a knife and fork and toilet trained him.

Thats the backstory...

noubliezjamais

SlowBlowin wrote: »

My wife had 2 kids boy and girl. The son grew up, got a good job and married, bought a house started a family. The daughter left home at 17, and essentially disappeared, only resurfacing a Christmas, and maybe a couple of visits a year. She became a single parent and moved in with her boyfriends family in Scotland.

We heard nothing for a few years then a frantic few days when she says she was beaten by her boyfriend and he was locked up. My wife flew to scotland and we paid for her to move what belonging she had back to the southcoast of the Uk where we were living at the time. We gave her the deposit so she could rent a small house, furished it, etc. For a short time she seemed to be "normal", then she started stealing from us during house visits. She stole from me, my wife, her grandmother (nicked her wedding ring), fabricated stories of mugging or "I left my purse in the taxi" to get money from the newsagents, the pub etc etc. It seemed everyone, related or not, had a story about how she had conned them out of money.

We had very little contact for some time, and then I got a call from the police drug squad to say they had just seized a boy in a raid on a heroin dealer. It was the daughters house, by this time there were 7 people staying in the 2 bedrooms, including our grandson (by this stage the house had no functioning toilets). The police said the boy would go into care unless we had him, so we did.

She (daughter) has since gone completely downhill, living rough, unable to get help because she was burnt bridges with all the help organisations, by starting with them all multiple times, and then using them.

My wife and I went to court and obtained the maximum legal rights we could, we then retired early and moved back to Ireland with the grandson. Unrelated but at this point my wife was diagnosed with stage 3 Hodgkins Lymphoma, but she is now in remission after 6 months of chemo.

People regularly say what a great thing we have done, but as Tony says "what you going to do". If you are a halfway reasonable person you would not let a family member go into care.

The grandson has lots of issues, but we are getting great help from his school and others, he is a great kid as we both love him very much. When he came to us he was 7, we taught him to eat with a knife and fork and toilet trained him.

Thats the backstory...

Is she in prison now or any criminal record?

corner of hells

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Is she in prison now or any criminal record?

Maybe leave it at that.

SlowBlowin

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Is she in prison now or any criminal record?

As far as we know she is living rough in the UK.

When we went to court they found in our favour and gave us full legal guardianship. They then realised there had been a feck up and they had forgotten to carry out criminal record checks on everyone, but they made the judgement anyway and said they will do the checks but if they we OK we would not have to reappear in the courts. Then a week later we get called back into court, I was worried that something from my youth had showed up, but it turned out that the checks on me and my wife were fine, but the daughter had 2 ABH convictions in the past 6 months. They called us back to give us the maximum rights they could, so we have total say so in the child's future. I think in reality they were keen to pass the buck...

Feisar

SlowBlowin wrote: »

As far as we know she is living rough in the UK.

When we went to court they found in our favour and gave us full legal guardianship. They then realised there had been a feck up and they had forgotten to carry out criminal record checks on everyone, but they made the judgement anyway and said they will do the checks but if they we OK we would not have to reappear in the courts. Then a week later we get called back into court, I was worried that something from my youth had showed up, but it turned out that the checks on me and my wife were fine, but the daughter had 2 ABH convictions in the past 6 months. They called us back to give us the maximum rights they could, so we have total say so in the child's future. I think in reality they were keen to pass the buck...

The very best of luck to you.

dartboardio

No. But i have stolen from family.

I was a selfish lying wreck as a teenager. I lied and stole and did whatever needed to be done to benefit myself. Sold lots of belongings and christmas presents for weed drink etc. My aunt thought i was gonna be a heroin addict or similar

My mother could not leave her bag downstairs at night.

I grew up and changed completely and would never dream of anything like it again. The embarassment and guilt alone kills me.

Necro

Had a 'mate' back in secondary school alright. Total and utter liar and a thief.

I knew something was up when on a few occasions money or games or other stuff of value would go missing from either my own place or others in the group. Knew it was him but could never prove it.

Final straw came when a wallet of my mates went missing containing a lot of cash (paid in cash, hadn't been to bank).

We were upstairs about 2 hours later and the same prick walks in with this **** eating grin on his face and I just snapped.

Let him have it, brought up all the stuff going missing and now the wallet and how I couldn't prove it, but knew it was him.

He stormed out of the place threatening to sue me (lol) for slander.

Reappeared about another two hours later and demands (in my mates house no less) that we go look for this wallet.

Lo and behold the fcuker 'finds it' behind a stereo and hands it to my mate. Mate is delighted to get it back, says nothing else and the prick starts telling me I need to apologise to him.

Never understood why my mate didn't call him out on it to this day tbh. Worst thing was his wallet was still 50 quid light (likely spent that and couldn't replace).

But it never happened again, not that he got the chance at my place anyways.

Works in retail now, heard he was up to his old tricks again recently. A leopard never changes his spots apparently.

Shanotheslayer

corner of hells wrote: »

"He robbed me a few times, too but eventually he ****ed up and karma roasted him."

Karma was the name of the person that kicked the sh1t out of him.

SlowBlowin

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Have a family member (step daughter) who is a heroin addict, so thats a very big yes. All members of my family have been touched by her requirement for cash or things easily converted.

We also now, later on in our lives than we bargained for, have a 10 year old who lives with us, and we are now his legal guardians.

So sorry to hear about this. I have my own experice with a person with an addiction, and it's a miserable existence for all of us.

I'm sure others will want to weigh-in with their outsider opinions, but in my experience nobody is at fault here - yours is probably the hardest thing to deal with - raising someone's child and trying to accept that no blame accrues. I hope you and you family are getting as much support as is possible.

Wishing you every success, it's not easy.

s8n

corner of hells wrote: »

I worked as a self employed contactor a good few years ago and got ripped off to the tune of a thousand Euro by a "friend" , just would not pay up , always had an excuse.

The pox owed money everywhere but still lived the high life , however he was off sunning his bollix in Thailand for three weeks when his McMansion was broken into by an acquaintance who removed the stairs and floorboards from his house .

Two wrongs don’t make a right