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NoFap. Have you done it?

  • 16-02-2019 6:07pm
    #1
    Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭


    Those who dont know, nofap is when you dont masturbate or watch porn. Apparently long term benefit is the rewiring of your brain for more motivation. Short term hormonal benefits such as increased testosterone etc.

    Have u done it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    What would I do in my spare time then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    Was it not proven awhile back and supposedly well known inbody building circles that every 5 days you empty the tank.
    It’s where you hit optimum test levels.

    All these fashions are just to sell advertising space on Instagram pages.

    I take it when I can get it myself. I used to be into bodybuilding though but I still wouldn’t turn down the ride to rewire my brain or whatever you claim.

    What’s wrong with ye?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Was it not proven awhile back and supposedly well known inbody building circles that every 5 days you empty the tank.
    It’s where you hit optimum test levels.

    All these fashions are just to sell advertising space on Instagram pages.

    I take it when I can get it myself. I used to be into bodybuilding though but I still wouldn’t turn down the ride to rewire my brain or whatever you claim.

    What’s wrong with ye?

    Eh i dont nofap but if someones deep into porn addiction you can see how itd be useful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I take it when I can get it myself. I used to be into bodybuilding though but I still wouldn’t turn down the ride to rewire my brain or whatever you claim.

    What’s wrong with ye?

    No fap has no rules on riding only on masturbation and porn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    What else are you meant to do while stuck in traffic?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,288 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    What would I do in my spare time then?

    Subatomic particles for peace


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    tuxy wrote: »
    No fap has no rules on riding only on masturbation and porn.

    ?? When you need to empty the tank, empty it.
    Then you won’t be too bothered with porn.

    Jesus what are you going to do instead? Watch coronation street?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    ?? When you need to empty the tank, empty it.
    Then you won’t be too bothered with porn.

    Jesus what are you going to do instead? Watch coronation street?

    Something productive?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Something productive?

    Are you saying people are watching porn and fapping all day and can’t even get out of bed to feed the cat?

    The poor mickeys on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    I can understand it may help with porn addictions but would watching the odd porn vid really be much different to using the **** bank when having an oul tug?


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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Are you saying people are watching porn and fapping all day and can’t even get out of bed to feed the cat?

    The poor mickeys on them.

    Some people are doing that yeah. Porn addiction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    I don't believe the "more testosterone" claim.. OR "more oestrogen" either, come to that.
    Yeah, tried this in the past. Didn't pay off. Reduced libido and increased depression.
    F3ck that for an act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Ariadne


    I can't see why I would ever do that to myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    tuxy wrote: »
    No fap has no rules on riding only on masturbation and porn.

    How does the body know the difference to get the supposed benefits purported in the OP?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    I don't believe the "more testosterone" claim.. OR "more oestrogen" either, come to that.
    Yeah, tried this in the past. Didn't pay off. Reduced libido and increased depression.
    F3ck that for an act.

    There has been studies, test peaks at roughly one week of not masturbating then it normalizes again.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    How does the body know the difference to get the supposed benefits purported in the OP?

    You have to use your brain on the chase as well as form social bonds with a person using body language and hormones

    Your body in fact doesnt know the difference but it fvcks you up cause you form a connection with your laptop and **** sock instead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Apparently long term benefit is the rewiring of your brain for more motivation. Short term hormonal benefits such as increased testosterone etc.

    Key word is apparently... Pretty sure there is no scientific basis that proves this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    You have to use your brain on the chase as well as form social bonds with a person using body language and hormones

    Your body in fact doesnt know the difference but it fvcks you up cause you form a connection with your laptop and **** sock instead

    So, no difference physiologically. To get the purported benefits you'd have become celibate. Great plan for over population.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    So, no difference physiologically. To get the purported benefits you'd have become celibate. Great plan for over population.

    if youre masturbating 3 times a day its 100% physiologically negative


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Fapping on the daily keeps my prostate shipshape ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭no.8


    Think it's the physiological aspect that they're getting at with porn. Prob more for addicts. Tbh, the mind 100% knows the difference and the feeling / confidence you get from succeeding with your ol mating ritual vs. a quick trip onto a crusty URL is prob deeper than we know.
    Say it affects the body cause there's no emotions / passion etc. With the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Sounds a bit gay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    The no fap ice bucket bird box challenge


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    Some people are doing that yeah. Porn addiction

    Industry creation more like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Good God no.

    What would I do all day long?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,879 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    It's all pseudo science. Complete bollocks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Arghus wrote: »
    It's all pseudo science. Complete bollocks.

    Sheep need something to follow it seems.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Arghus wrote: »
    It's all pseudo science. Complete bollocks.

    Its for people with porn and behavioral addiction. It works if you fit in those categories


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Why would anyone, male or female, attempt this, would you not crack up?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    Why would anyone, male or female, attempt this, would you not crack up?

    It’d hardly turn ye ceramic.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Why would anyone, male or female, attempt this, would you not crack up?

    Ok.

    ‘Why would someone stop drinking the occasional pint’


    Vs


    ‘Why should an alcoholic stop drinking’


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Oh I'm missing something here but I'm female so maybe I don't understand. Is it not just a natural urge that can't really be ignored?

    It might seem like a stupid question but I was serious - no understanding on the benefits if any.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    It's not related to testosterone but to dopamine. Dopamine causes you to seek reward, but the more often you do something like have an orgasm which floods your brain with dopamine, the more your brain trains itself not to react as intensely to the same amount. It's the same mechanism by which one needs more caffeine, alcohol, drugs etc to get the same level of "high" - the receptors in your brain which react to the release of neurotransmitters get "downgraded" in order to compensate, because the brain is designed to maintain a baseline.

    Refraining from orgasming for a period of time is like going a few weeks without coffee - the receptors which react to dopamine levels reset themselves to their previous sensitivity, just like when you abstain from coffee, your adenosine receptors reset, and when you abstain from alcohol, your GABA receptors reset. So it's definitely good for mood, but it doesn't have to be as extreme as the NoFap crowd suggest - receptors don't take three months of complete abstinence to reset, the majority of them go back to normal within a few weeks. The only major exception I know of are opiate receptors which take absolutely ages to reset, which is why a tolerance to drugs like heroin is so dangerous and can't just be gotten rid of from short term abstention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Oh I'm missing something here but I'm female so maybe I don't understand. Is it not just a natural urge that can't really be ignored?

    It might seem like a stupid question but I was serious - no understanding on the benefits if any.

    The urge is caused by dopamine, which tells your brain to seek reward. The idea is that if you don't give it that reward through orgasm, you're more motivated to seek reward in other areas - by finishing the song you've been procrastinating about for ages, or by getting more exercise. All of these things trigger the same reward system as having an orgasm does, but they require more effort to achieve - the idea is that if you put that particular reward off the table for a period of time, dopamine builds up enough to tell your brain "f*ck it, stop waiting for an orgasm and do something else which will give you your high. Write something, or go for a run."


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think this would be genuinely useful for anyone struggling with porn addiction, but for the rest of us normal lads who only watch that stuff four or five times a day, what's the big deal? Prudes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Whats the difference between an egg and a good ****?.

    You can beat an egg, but you can't beat a good **** :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,909 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Sure after a certain period of time the body empties the tank itself anyway.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Sheep need something to follow it seems.

    'I JERK OFF EVERY DAY IM SO WOKE'

    tell me, which is your favorite advertising platform (that happen to host pornographic videos) ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,297 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    There's a whole industry around devices to 'help' guys to achieve their goals.

    Here's one provider - Not safe for work: https://lockthecock.eu/collections/male-chastity-devices?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIq8io2Y7B4AIVBLftCh2q1QprEAAYASAAEgJJAvD_BwE


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    "No fap" more imported Yank BroScience™ at work.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Wibbs wrote: »
    "No fap" more imported Yank BroScience™ at work.

    Is stopping the drink if youre alcoholic a broscience?

    If not, then how is stopping masturbation if youre addicted a broscience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Wibbs wrote: »
    "No fap" more imported Yank BroScience™ at work.

    The relationship between scarcer / rarer orgasms and increased D2 receptor sensitivity is fairly well established so it's not broscience, as I say though the NoFap crowd are unnecessarily extreme about it in terms of their preaching 90 or 120 day "fasts" when 2-3 weeks is plenty. As I mentioned previously, the only neurotransmitter receptor system which is an exception to this (as far as I know, others might be able to add more here?) are opiate receptors, which are absolute f*ckers to reset once they reach a certain threshold of de-sensitisation. Most others operate on short timescales in terms of how they react to over or under stimulation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Are you saying people are watching porn and fapping all day and can’t even get out of bed to feed the cat?

    The poor mickeys on them.

    I once inflamed my foreskim when I was younger. Everyone was away and I fapped the day away.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭Feisar


    It's not related to testosterone but to dopamine. Dopamine causes you to seek reward, but the more often you do something like have an orgasm which floods your brain with dopamine, the more your brain trains itself not to react as intensely to the same amount. It's the same mechanism by which one needs more caffeine, alcohol, drugs etc to get the same level of "high" - the receptors in your brain which react to the release of neurotransmitters get "downgraded" in order to compensate, because the brain is designed to maintain a baseline.

    Refraining from orgasming for a period of time is like going a few weeks without coffee - the receptors which react to dopamine levels reset themselves to their previous sensitivity, just like when you abstain from coffee, your adenosine receptors reset, and when you abstain from alcohol, your GABA receptors reset. So it's definitely good for mood, but it doesn't have to be as extreme as the NoFap crowd suggest - receptors don't take three months of complete abstinence to reset, the majority of them go back to normal within a few weeks. The only major exception I know of are opiate receptors which take absolutely ages to reset, which is why a tolerance to drugs like heroin is so dangerous and can't just be gotten rid of from short term abstention.

    Can I ask you where nicotine is on the spectrum?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I'm doing it at the moment, I've lasted about 2 minutes so far.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    .....and I've failed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Nofap sounds to me like a sort of #metoo movement for American teenage shut ins who are addicted to internet porn and need some way to reconnect with reality.

    Get a job and a girlfriend. Then you won't have time to **** all day and you'll have better things to do with it at night.

    Just don't get married cos she'll let herself go completely, on the cream buns, then you may go back on the aul porn again. It's a tightrope act, tbf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    The thing is, the whole nofap movement (yes, I'm calling it a movement) has gone too far. Check out the subreddits on it, the guys doing it are weird. And like everything, it's picked a political side. The Proudboys were big into it. And of course the Christians have latched onto it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    All Boards and no Fap make Grover something something......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    It's a positive thing as in it will help prevent delayed ejaculation which is the complete opposite of premature ejaculation. The problem with ED is that you can effectively condition yourself to blow by hand only and when you have sex it's just not the same and you can't spill your beans 'hands free' even if highly aroused. **** using a 'death grip' causes it. So for anyone with ED then refraining from nutting using your hand can re-sensitive your mickey and for that the whole NoFap thing is a positive but I don't subscribe to the whole don't **** to become more productive, focused aspect.


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