Would anyone here actually like to see a speed camera anywhere?

Crock Rock

What can be done about our chronic speed culture?



I would like to see a few on the R132 (the old road from Swords to Balbriggan) which goes past Blake's Cross. The speed limit is 60 km/h on that section of the road and it is often treacherous for cycling on.


I would like to see the 50 km/h speed limit enforced on the junction between the M1 southbound and the M50 southbound.



The 80 km/h limit going southbound on the M1 (after the airport slip road).
This makes it treacherous for people who keep left (as you should do) and move over to take the Malahide and City Centre slip roads when the signs and road markings say to. People often hog the middle lane at a dangerously high speed (120 km/h in the 80 km/h zone) and bully people who legally try to move over. More often that not, those people who were hogging the middle lane at speed often suddenly swerve left to take the M50 exit anyway.



The northbound (before the airport slip road) is 80 km/h. People often dangerously exceed that speed limit.

w211

These cameras does not work, people speeding anyway. I do not speed but worst thing are endless road bumps. Some are so dangerous and damage the normal cars on normal speed. They should remove all these bumps but increase any speeding fine. The total cost for damaged suspension parts + lost fuel + pollution are insane. By good car they can speeding even between 2 road bumps by 120kmh.

Crock Rock

I agree that speed bumps defy logic. They are a menace for paramedics, firefighters and Gardaí in pursuit. Scangers will just wreck the cars over them and won't give a shit.

Average speed cameras on the aforementioned section is the only way the message will sink in.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

yes,
shoved up Shane Rosses hole

OldMrBrennan83

Average ones. Everywhere.

Crock Rock

DaDumTish wrote: »

yes,
shoved up Shane Rosses hole

:rolleyes:

blackbox

In a skip

Del2005

In housing estates, outside schools and down boreens with grass in the middle . But there should be a your speed sign directly in front of it. So if you are going to fast you get a warning and a fine if you ignore the warnings.

A speed camera in a dangerous location which doesn't catch a single speeder is more effective for safety than a letter in the post after a few weeks.

Pkiernan

At the entrance to and exit from every village.

Too many fckin scumbags spending thru villages.

RHJ

I'd like to see average speed cameras along the Newport Road, and Pontoon Road in Castlebar once saw a car going so fast the back of it was moving side to side which is probably not a good sign.

I know the link is to the Daily Mail but could we also get these cameras that can help spot people using their phone while driving.

https://bit.ly/2DIAU2D

Mc Love

yes I would love to see one on my road but unlikely as there hasnt been any accidents on it

screamer

Yes I’d love a speed camera on my gable wall, I’d even pay the electricity bill to run it. Live at the bottom of a hill in a village and I’d say the average speed is easily 50mph scandalous.

daithi7

Perched outside every garda station car park.

Mc Love

Mc Love wrote: »

yes I would love to see one on my road but unlikely as there hasnt been any accidents on it

Just ask the Council to re-pave the road to a really high standard and light it up with new street lights. Once it's well paved, illuminated, with good visibility and its comfortable/safe to drive on at a higher speed than the one marked, a speed van will start appearing there.


It doesn't have a whole lot to do with preventing accidents, based on where I tend to see them.

fancy pigeon

Take the speed cameras from non accident black spots, then replace with red light cameras

jimgoose

Do we actually have a "chronic speed culture"?

Phileas Frog

Every half mile in Donegal.

usernamegoes

There needs to be traffic enforcement cameras of various types all over the place.

Speed: both average and instant, fixed and roaming. Not vans that people see from a mile off and slow down for.
Red Light
Illegal turns
Illegal parking
Driving in virtual islands
etc.

Garda can't be everywhere and when they are seem little interested in enforcing driving rules.

lawred2

Crock Rock wrote: »

I agree that speed bumps defy logic. They are a menace for paramedics, firefighters and Gardaí in pursuit. Scangers will just wreck the cars over them and won't give a shit.

Average speed cameras on the aforementioned section is the only way the message will sink in.

Skangers will speed anywhere and everywhere

But speedbumps slow the vast vast majority of road users down.

So no they don't defy logic.

Most modern cars will exceed speed limits without much effort whatever. So bumps have value in keeping drivers aware.

Or do you think the only offenders are skangers?

For the record I'd have speed cameras and speed bumps and whatever else on our road. A regular drag strip. And not for skangers. More the Range Rover, Audi A6 variety

The Rape of Lucretia

Everywhere ideally, but they do seem like such ancient technology. What we need is GPS systems linked to a system that automatically collects the fines and adds the point for anyone exceeding the limit. Driving licence linked to credit cards or bank account, and the Revenue able to deduct it at source for anyone whose normal payment path doesnt have the cash or credit.

Pops_20

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Everywhere ideally, but they do seem like such ancient technology. What we need is GPS systems linked to a system that automatically collects the fines and adds the point for anyone exceeding the limit. Driving licence linked to credit cards or bank account, and the Revenue able to deduct it at source for anyone whose normal payment path doesnt have the cash or credit.

I think that would be a bit too "big brother" for everyone. Driving can be a pleasure. A system like this would take all the joy out of it.

Everybody speeds, but speeding excessively, in the wrong areas, and taking stupid risks are what cause accidents. Not travelling 10 km/h over the limit on a motorway.

Savage_Henry

NO

V8 Interceptor

Crock Rock wrote: »

I would like to see a few on the R132 (the old road from Swords to Balbriggan) which goes past Blake's Cross. The speed limit is 60 km/h on that section of the road and it is often treacherous for cycling on.

What are you doing cycling on that stretch of road you nutter? If anything the limit should be increased there.

Get off the damn road. You're a hindrance!

Flyingsnowball

On the corner outside my house.

jim-mcdee

Just an FYI, of the speed limit is 60,80,100 whatever, you are legally allowed to do that speed. So if you see a speed camera in a 60 zone please don't suddenly got the brakes and proceed for the next mile at 35.... 59 is perfectly acceptable. Thanks.

Lord Nikon

The question is, is that by catching people speeding does it prevent accidents?
The N4 Eastbound had a gatso parked on it every morning, never any speeding accidents. Now there is no gatso parked at all, and guess what, no accidents.

If anything, people stuck in bumper to bumper traffic causes accident.

kaahooters

"Originally Posted by Crock Rock View Post


I would like to see a few on the R132 (the old road from Swords to Balbriggan) which goes past Blake's Cross. The speed limit is 60 km/h on that section of the road and it is often treacherous for cycling on."

its 60 from batterhall / turvey to north side of corduff, form there to balrothery its 80.

Cyclepath

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Everywhere ideally, but they do seem like such ancient technology. What we need is GPS systems linked to a system that automatically collects the fines and adds the point for anyone exceeding the limit. Driving licence linked to credit cards or bank account, and the Revenue able to deduct it at source for anyone whose normal payment path doesnt have the cash or credit.

You should move to China; I think you'd like their surveillance methods!
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/china-surveillance/552203/

ExoPolitic

I'd like to see them at the entrance to all towns and villages. That will teach the idiot in front of me doing 70kph in a 100kph zone, who then continues in a 50kph zone doing 70kph...

redcup342

Average speed camera on the M50 would be nice.

Dravokivich

Personally, I'd be of the opinion the cameras shouldn't be visible.

Lord Nikon wrote: »

The question is, is that by catching people speeding does it prevent accidents?
The N4 Eastbound had a gatso parked on it every morning, never any speeding accidents. Now there is no gatso parked at all, and guess what, no accidents.

If anything, people stuck in bumper to bumper traffic causes accident.

Theres always accidents on various stretches of that road. There was one just before m4 degrades to n4 this morning.

RHJ

Another idea that should happen in my opinion is to encourage more people to have dash cams and helmet cams and set up a website where people could upload footage of law-breaking or reckless behaviour on the road and then have that footage reviewed by the Garda.

I think the above would require a change in the law so make footage from dash and helmet cams legally admissible in court or to issue a fine.

Lord Nikon

Dravokivich wrote: »

Personally, I'd be of the opinion the cameras shouldn't be visible.



Theres always accidents on various stretches of that road. There was one just before m4 degrades to n4 this morning.

Would a camera have prevented the accident?

redcup342

RHJ wrote: »

Another idea that should happen in my opinion is to encourage more people to have dash cams and helmet cams and set up a website where people could upload footage of law-breaking or reckless behaviour on the road and then have that footage reviewed by the Garda.

I think the above would require a change in the law so make footage from dash and helmet cams legally admissible in court or to issue a fine.

Can't do that, would be easy to delete the prior minutes to change how the situation looks.

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Lol I am hoping you are trolling as most of the times the average speed on the M50 is around walking speed :pac:

Not in the slightest, the jams are caused by people speeding, good few places in Holland I can think of where an Average speed camera drastically improved the flow of traffic.

RHJ

redcup342 wrote: »

Can't do that, would be easy to delete the prior minutes to change how the situation looks.

You could always require that videos are of a certain length, for example, require people to show the previous 5 minutes and 5 minutes after the reported incident.

robtri

speed cameras are old tech... and dont work

need GPS speed limiters fitted to cars.. that will sort it out

Dravokivich

Lord Nikon wrote: »

Would a camera have prevented the accident?

I don't know why it happened. I just know someone hit something hard enough to flatten the engine bay on their car.

Eric Cartman

border counties, everywhere, literally hundreds in cavan, monaghan and donegal. Would save some lives by either forcing a massive culture change into slowing down or banning those determined to live up to the rallying image.

The J Stands for Jay

ExoPolitic wrote: »

I'd like to see them at the entrance to all towns and villages. That will teach the idiot in front of me doing 70kph in a 100kph zone, who then continues in a 50kph zone doing 70kph...

Yeah, and instead of taking a picture of the car, it should launch a missile at it.

fancy pigeon

redcup342 wrote: »

Not in the slightest, the jams are caused by people speeding, good few places in Holland I can think of where an Average speed camera drastically improved the flow of traffic.

I think it's more the imbeciles that can't merge/poor lane discipline/swerve across 3 lanes to get to their exit/aggressively bull into lanes/general selfish gobsh*tes stuck on their phones oblivious to their surroundings that cause a lot of the daily accordion traffic fun on the M50

The main instance I really see inappropriate speed involved is where drivers shoot up the aux lanes to cut out onto the motorway at the very last second

The J Stands for Jay

fancy pigeon wrote: »

The main instance I really see inappropriate speed involved is where drivers shoot up the aux lanes to cut out onto the motorway at the very last second

That's the proper way to use merging lanes. If everyone did that, things would flow better.

fancy pigeon

McGaggs wrote: »

That's the proper way to use merging lanes. If everyone did that, things would flow better.

Whoops, I should have been clearer. I guess what I said would fall into the category of imbeciles not merging correctly where they need to speed up which isn't strictly what I'm referring to here

Here's an example I see regularly:

We start at the Ballymun exit, going south. Usually plenty of chances to merge safely but no: they need to gain the extra few car lengths and seconds. We then get to here (google maps on the other side of the motorway ), where most people would cut out; usually causing the car already in the lane to jam on (shoulds, woulds and coulds generally do not apply as it regularly happens)

Sammy_Jankis

fancy pigeon wrote: »

The main instance I really see inappropriate speed involved is where drivers shoot up the aux lanes to cut out onto the motorway at the very last second

Junction 9 m50 north and south bound is the worst for this crap. Should implement bollards for the last 300m or so as there is plenty of notice to get into the correct lane.

Dravokivich

McGaggs wrote: »

That's the proper way to use merging lanes. If everyone did that, things would flow better.

No it isn't.

If you are over taking on the left, you are going faster than the traffic, you are "attempting" to merge into.

redcup342

Dravokivich wrote: »

No it isn't.

If you are over taking on the left, you are going faster than the traffic, you are "attempting" to merge into.

Eh nah man, that's how you use a merging lane, if you are merging at the beginning of the lane you are wasting all the road ahead of you.

You are supposed to go all the way to the end and merge one for one (like a zipper)

:pac:

fancy pigeon

Sammy_Jankis wrote: »

Junction 9 m50 north and south bound is the worst for this crap. Should implement bollards for the last 300m or so as there is plenty of notice to get into the correct lane.

Say like here?

Imagine the fun there would be if these weren't here! :eek::P

OldMrBrennan83

Cyclepath wrote: »

You should move to China; I think you'd like their surveillance methods!
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/china-surveillance/552203/

If you're not doing anything wrong then it's irrelevant.

usernamegoes

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

If you're not doing anything wrong then it's irrelevant.

That old chestnut. Should we put a camera in everyone's house just in case?

Crock Rock

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

What are you doing cycling on that stretch of road you nutter? If anything the limit should be increased there.

Get off the damn road. You're a hindrance!

How am I a nutter? It's a R-Road.


Can you not overtake me when it's safe and legal to do so?

V8 Interceptor

Crock Rock wrote: »

How am I a nutter? It's a R-Road. Can you not overtake me when it's safe and legal to do so?

I can and I do but there are certain roads bicycles shouldn't be on, at least not in rush hour(s). You can cause half mile tailbacks because of your insistence on cladding up in lycra because its your "right" to do so. Get the fukking Bus, drive or get a lift and stop being so selfish. You can act the eejit at the weekends on quieter roads.

Crock Rock

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

I can and I do but there are certain roads bicycles shouldn't be on, at least not in rush hour(s). You can cause half mile tailbacks because of your insistence on cladding up in lycra because its your "right" to do so. Get the fukking Bus, drive or get a lift and stop being so selfish. You can act the eejit at the weekends on quieter roads.

You do realise that some of us work on weekends?
Also, there'd be much less traffic at rush hour if more of us "lycra cladders" took to the road at rush hour.