Issues at fast chargers I wasn't aware of

Watch out for this, while getting some juice at the Carlow Fast charger a Leaf driver pulled up a while later and I said I'd let him in if he needed and he sad "no problem you can charge the two at the same time"

I said, Eah, no you can't, he said "watch" so I said I'd let him on.... anyway when his car started charging it disconnected mine automatically. He said "told you" and I said but you stopped mine charging. I said, you can't do this until someone that is using CCS finishes charging because if they come back to the car and see you charging they will think you disconnected them on purpose.

I really don't think he knew it disconnected the other car but I was very concerned that the charger allows ChaDeMo connect and charge and stop a CCS car charging in the process. Ridiculous. Probably same thing happens the other way around too.

Another issue is that when I was charging a Man came in his Leaf and I said do you need a charge and he said " no thanks I will Use the AC and head off to the match" I said , what ? no, ou can't do this and he said "why not, I can charge at 7 Kw" I said because you're taking a 44 Kw charge from a Zoe owner, he hadn't a clue and he said "oh really ? I didn't know that"

I told him there are AC points in town but would be a lot further to walk to the match, chancer really.

He thought he could plug in on the AC side and feck off to a match,

Jesus, what the hell is going out there at all ?

ewj1978

People havent a clue.

Batesy

There should be more charger info available to the user base to advise of all these scenarios and how the unit handles them.
It's poor planning to not explain clearly how the devices work to the users.

If you think about it you can't blame people for asuming when there's 2 spaces at each charger as long as I'm using a different charging method we can both charge.

punisher5112

People are a#s hats and couldn't give a fcuk.

They will be exactly the same ones that will always do this as they are only thinking of themselves.

These are the types that will never change and will most likely use the network as it's free and they don't have to use their own electricity.

Probably not short a few million either ...

I was really shocked to see the ChaDeMo charge disconnect my CCS session !! I mean really wtf is this normal ?

creedp

ewj1978 wrote: »

People havent a clue.

Nor do many care so long as they get their fill of free electricity. Unless charging comes in this will continue and get worse especially with the new 60kwh cars which will sit there for an hour or more charging.

punisher5112

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I was really shocked to see the ChaDeMo charge disconnect my CCS session !! I mean really wtf is this normal ?

Do up a note and laminate it and hang it on the other charge point if you have to leave the car for the 20 or 30 minutes for your charge.

Yes but we really can't complain about 60 Kwh cars charging, they're well within their right, however, whether 10-20 mins is enough for them to get where they're going or not is another matter.

The real issue here is cold battery charging as I saw today in Carlow, 22 Kw at 60% ! I would be waiting to fill a 60 Kwh battery to 80% that's for sure.

Driving some distance will help warm it up but Cold charging is a real issue. The i3 will heat to 10 eg C which helps and then when setting off with a full charge by the time you need to use DC the battery will be plenty warm but the real issue is if you drive somewhere and leave the car over night and have no access to AC the battery can get really cold and fast charging will be very slow.

Kinda makes me appreciate the Rex even more !

unkel

60c per minute plus 60c per kWh and all these issues will disappear immediately...

punisher5112

punisher5112 wrote: »

Do up a note and laminate it and hang it on the other charge point if you have to leave the car for the 20 or 30 minutes for your charge.

I always had a note in the car with my number on one side and on the other I had " you can plug me out"

Usually I just left my number and if anyone called I would tell them to plug me out.

Dead handy and saved me having to hang around waiting. Obviously at that point I'd be making my way back to the car in case a Zoe turned up. I'd never be too far.

creedp

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes but we really can't complain about 60 Kwh cars charging, they're well within their right, however, whether 10-20 mins is enough for them to get where they're going or not is another matter.

The real issue here is cold battery charging as I saw today in Carlow, 22 Kw at 60% ! I would be waiting to fill a 60 Kwh battery to 80% that's for sure.

Driving some distance will help warm it up but Cold charging is a real issue. The i3 will heat to 10 eg C which helps and then when setting off with a full charge by the time you need to use DC the battery will be plenty warm but the real issue is if you drive somewhere and leave the car over night and have no access to AC the battery can get really cold and fast charging will be very slow.

Kinda makes me appreciate the Rex even more !

Yes the cold having a big impact on charging speed for me as well. Yesterday topping up from 65% at FCP to get me home and was only charging at 20kw which had dropped to 12kw at 85% at which time an Ioniq arrived so I unplugged and headed off.

No problem with 60kwh cars charging at FCPs but all it takes is for a few locals to hang around filling their batteries and it becomes very difficult to access FCPs for top ups especially with single chargepoints.

creedp

unkel wrote: »

60c per minute plus 60c per kWh and all these issues will disappear immediately...

Sure would for me as I would be back in diesel for all long journeys. No way would I go through the delays with charging the L30 while having to fork out 60 c per kwh

unkel

creedp wrote: »

Sure would for me as I would be back in diesel for all long journeys. No way would I go through the delays with charging the L30 while having to fork out 60 c per kwh

A 15 minute stop to charge Ioniq would cost €19.50 and it would give about 125km motorway range. More expensive than diesel for sure, but 90-95% of the time you charge at home / work / other cheap or free slow charger, so the occasional time you need to do big distances, the premium is well worth it for fast charging with zero waiting times imho

We only have one family car. We can't "take the diesel" for longer journeys. But I'd be far happier with those hefty charges than with the situation we're in now with free charging and the few chargers clogged up by people who don't even need to charge. So much so that I am very reluctant to drive beyond the range of my car...

Mike9832

Deleted User wrote: »

Kinda makes me appreciate the Rex even more !

Why don't they make more of them? Alot of countries like ours are still not setup for BEV going by posts like this

Reading Mazda will be showing off a Rex at Geneva for launch in 2020, supposedly it's a Mazda 3 with 30kWh+ battery and 80bhp small rotary extender

Toyota working on one too

That's it

You'd think big auto would want to keep oil changes

tedpan

I was at blanch on Friday. Sat for 30 mins waiting for a leaf on the chademo. Another 10 minutes go by, I look up and see she's finished(green light on the charger) I walk over and asked if she was moving. She says 20 minutes more...!! I said you're not even charging, she sat a few more minutes, unplugged and drove off...

unkel

PHEV is not the solution while we wait for affordable long range EVs

An adequate fast charging infrastructure with no waiting times is...

NIMAN

ewj1978 wrote: »

People havent a clue.

I'm sorry, but I think I did this a few weeks back myself, and I am an EV owner for over a year.

I assumed that since there are 2 sides to each charger, that 2 cars could be connected at the same time.

I think most would assume this? Surely if only one car can charge at a time, the machine shouldn't let a 2nd lead be connected?

Harsh to say I haven't a clue. Bad design more like!

Mike9832

unkel wrote: »

PHEV is not the solution while we wait for affordable long range EVs

An adequate fast charging infrastructure with no waiting times is...

I wouldn't lump range extenders like i3 or Volt in with PHEV's

i3 and Volt are pretty awesome pieces of engineering , PHEV is just lazy

Given a choice would you take a 200bhp 40kWh 3 series with 80bhp petrol generator or a 200bhp 80kWh BEV?

I would honestly go with the REX, that's 99% of my driving on battery and petrol for the other 1%, it's a pretty easy sell for someone like Toyota etc to exploit

I have never owned a BEV though, might change my mind if I did maybe.

Yes it is a bad design, now whether this is down to the Carlow charger being only installed about a week and they might need to update firmware I haven't a clue, this could be an issue across the board so people need to be aware of it because I wasn't until today but I haven't used a fast charger from about Mid December to yesterday when I used one twice. Leaving your car charging is a bad idea.

Last time I went to Dublin Newlands wasn't upgraded and Naas was broken but I won't go to Naas any more anyway it's always either way too difficult to get to in traffic or in use by locals. I remember a couple of times it took me 35 mins to get fron N7 to Naas charger at Tesco, ridiculous and makes it more or less unfit for purpose.

Anyway, to say I was Gobsmacked today to see the leaf knock off my charge is an understatement , then to hear the Man in his Leaf talk about using the AC side and leave the car while he went to a match , Jesus, I had forgot a lot of madness that exists at charge points it's like entering the twilight zone when you get to a charge point !

Mike9832

Mike9832 wrote: »

I wouldn't lump range extenders like i3 or Volt in with PHEV's

i3 and Volt are pretty awesome pieces of engineering , PHEV is just lazy

Given a choice would you take a 200bhp 40kWh 3 series with 80bhp petrol generator or a 200bhp 80kWh BEV?

I would honestly go with the REX, that's 99% of my driving on battery and petrol for the other 1%, it's a pretty easy sell for someone like Toyota etc to exploit

I have never owned a BEV though, might change my mind if I did maybe.

I drove 24 Kwh Leaf for 3 years and about 85,000 Kms and there's no way I would go back to BEV with the current charging situation and probably never with 24 Kwh anyway.

We had 2 cars but there were plenty of times I needed more range.

Only for the Rex the i3 would have been on the back of a truck from Killarney to Cashel in the Summer when we went from Limerick all the way around the ring of Kerry and back, Killarney has no CCS and the AC was down so we went from Killarney to Cashel all on the Rex.

The rex is great and the Leaf should have had one in the beginning it would have sold a hell of a lot more.

Sadly the Rex is no more for Europe and I assume BMW must have got some tax incentives for eliminating it. Such a shame because I don't think I could live with 42 Kwh and 50 Kw charging not to mention severely restricted cold battery charging.

Today I saw 22 Kw at 60 odd % compared to 55 Kw yesterday around the same charge % but much warmer battery so the Rex can indeed be a real life saver/time saver and when charges are introduced probably not a lot more expensive to run and I won't have to pay to wait at chargers either.

I think I could be keeping the Rex a long time until ,

A : I can get a much longer much faster charging EV

B : Cold battery charging is much less an issue.

i3 has a battery heater but heats only when plugged in to AC and depart timer set 4 hrs in advance + heats only to 10 Deg C but good enough when setting off at 100% charge and by the time you have driven to need a charge again will charge at full or almost full power but being away from home when you need public charging the most means unless you can plug in at ac then you will have a cold battery.

AC charging at 11 Kw greatly helps things in winter too.

I'm getting the 42 Kw i3 for a few days while my i3 is in for service at the end of the month.

unkel

Deleted User wrote: »

I drove 24 Kwh Leaf for 3 years and about 85,000 Kms and there's no way I would go back to BEV with the current charging situation

My point exactly. BEV is fine, even with a small battery that can only do 200km motorway range, as long as there is a proper fast charging network

The only reason to go PHEV / REx is that you drive further than that regularly and fast charging is (or might be) a problem on those trips

Eric Cartman

unkel wrote: »

A 15 minute stop to charge Ioniq would cost €19.50 and it would give about 125km motorway range. More expensive than diesel for sure, but 90-95% of the time you charge at home / work / other cheap or free slow charger, so the occasional time you need to do big distances, the premium is well worth it for fast charging with zero waiting times imho

We only have one family car. We can't "take the diesel" for longer journeys. But I'd be far happier with those hefty charges than with the situation we're in now with free charging and the few chargers clogged up by people who don't even need to charge. So much so that I am very reluctant to drive beyond the range of my car...

My range rover costs the same to travel that distance. I agree with pricing but come on, thats a bit mad.

Dakotabigone

Eric Cartman wrote: »

My range rover costs the same to travel that distance. I agree with pricing but come on, thats a bit mad.

The leaf would make it there.

Mike9832

Deleted User wrote: »

Sadly the Rex is no more for Europe and I assume BMW must have got some tax incentives for eliminating it..

More like it would get more people into EV's, can't have that :pac:

denismc

I have to admit it took me a while to figure out the whole charging lark, what with all the different standards, connectors, a.c.- dc , tethered, untethered etc.
Most of the people on this forum are enthusiasts who spend hours reading up on the technology before they purchased any e.v.
The latest generation of e.v driver is not going to be as interested in the tech and just wants a car that can go from a to b.
So the chargepoints really should come with some instructions .

_dof_

NIMAN wrote: »

I'm sorry, but I think I did this a few weeks back myself, and I am an EV owner for over a year.

I assumed that since there are 2 sides to each charger, that 2 cars could be connected at the same time.

I think most would assume this? Surely if only one car can charge at a time, the machine shouldn't let a 2nd lead be connected?

Harsh to say I haven't a clue. Bad design more like!

When you say 2 sides, do you mean the 2 sockets on the slow chargers? If so, then you can plug in 2 cars at the same time and they will both charge no problem (assuming the charger is working fully).

The fast chargers with the tethered cables are a different story, if there is more than 1 DC cable. i.e. 1 Chademo and 1 CCS, only 1 can be used at a time. The AC cable usually can be used at the same time as one of the DC cables, although sometimes that doesn't work. Once, I connected the AC cable and it started charging my car, but stopped charging the Leaf using the Chademo beside me (Lucan). But another time, the AC cable worked fine with a car already using the DC (Kilbeggan)

unkel

unkel wrote: »

My point exactly. BEV is fine, even with a small battery that can only do 200km motorway range, as long as there is a proper fast charging network

The only reason to go PHEV / REx is that you drive further than that regularly and fast charging is (or might be) a problem on those trips

Ok let me try again, what I actually meant is that I wouldn't go back to a 24 Kwh EV again regardless , no, just couldn't do it. The 24 Kwh charged too slow also.

33 Kwh i3, still not enough range, 40 Kwh i3 probably still not enough range, slow charging a cold battery is no fun , just 22 Kw today but shame I never got the battery temp before I started the charge.

i3 is fine once battery is preheated and driven a while so I suppose it's not a huge issue unless you're away from home and can't stay plugged into AC or you suddenly want to pop around to the local charger for a free charge lol.

The Reason to go Rex for me was crap network and queues and I can drive at whatever speed I want and not have to give a sh1t and not because I do these trips regularly, I don't and I don't want to have to endure the network when I do, that's the whole point of the Rex, that is, it's there when you want/need it.

Yes , having a much better network helps a lot but I still couldn't go back to 100-110 Km Winter range. I really appreciate the extra battery range of the 33 Kwh and I'm sure I would appreciate even more the 42 Kwh i3 but still limited to 50 Kw on a good day.

Can't wait to try the 42 Kwh all the same , hope they give me the S , supposed to be even more fun !

Not sure at all what I will do in 2 years time.......

_dof_

_dof_ wrote: »

When you say 2 sides, do you mean the 2 sockets on the slow chargers? If so, then you can plug in 2 cars at the same time and they will both charge no problem (assuming the charger is working fully).

The fast chargers with the tethered cables are a different story, if there is more than 1 DC cable. i.e. 1 Chademo and 1 CCS, only 1 can be used at a time. The AC cable usually can be used at the same time as one of the DC cables, although sometimes that doesn't work. Once, I connected the AC cable and it started charging my car, but stopped charging the Leaf using the Chademo beside me (Lucan). But another time, the AC cable worked fine with a car already using the DC (Kilbeggan)

Just to save confusion,

On the DC chargers in question there are 3 x outlets, 2 x DC and 1 X AC

The 2 x DC have ChaDeMo and CCS plugs and only 1 of DC can charge at a time but a DC and AC can charge at the same time for the Renault Zoe or for anyone that wants to get something into the car while they wait for the DC to become available. Charging on AC gives 3.5- 7 Kw for most cars and 11 Kw for the 33 Kwh and 42 Kw BMW i3 and 44 Kw for the Zoe so if a Zoe car shows up the person waiting for DC should move to allow the Zoe driver in to charge as this is really meant for the Zoe.

Using the AC while a car is charging on DC is fine once you allow a Zoe driver into charge if they show up.

I can charge at 11 Kw in the i3 would be handy if someone was on DC.

liamog

It's probably worth reporting that as a fault to eCars. Afaic it's not like that on the other triple heads.

Yeah if someone wants to call an 1890 number be my guest lol.

Dakotabigone

Andy will have a melt down.

liamog

We'll add that to the list of things people don't know about rapid chargers.

Use +35312583799 instead of the 1890 number.

NIMAN

_dof_ wrote: »

When you say 2 sides, do you mean the 2 sockets on the slow chargers? If so, then you can plug in 2 cars at the same time and they will both charge no problem (assuming the charger is working fully).

The fast chargers with the tethered cables are a different story, if there is more than 1 DC cable. i.e. 1 Chademo and 1 CCS, only 1 can be used at a time. The AC cable usually can be used at the same time as one of the DC cables, although sometimes that doesn't work. Once, I connected the AC cable and it started charging my car, but stopped charging the Leaf using the Chademo beside me (Lucan). But another time, the AC cable worked fine with a car already using the DC (Kilbeggan)

Ah right.

Yeah, I'm talking about the older chargers, with no tethered cables.
Like the green/white in this photo
https://2dgraphicdesign.ie/e-car-power-points-around-wexford-11-months-later/

Silent Running

NIMAN wrote: »

Ah right.

Yeah, I'm talking about the older chargers, with no tethered cables.
Like the green/white in this photo
https://2dgraphicdesign.ie/e-car-power-points-around-wexford-11-months-later/

That's a slow charger. Two cars can charge at the same time.

creedp

unkel wrote: »

We only have one family car. We can't "take the diesel" for longer journeys. But I'd be far happier with those hefty charges than with the situation we're in now with free charging and the few chargers clogged up by people who don't even need to charge. So much so that I am very reluctant to drive beyond the range of my car...

Appreciate that the Ioniq is your only car and was referring to my own circumstances as I have 4 kids so the Leaf doesn't cut it when we travel together which is quite regularly. Also the kids are constantly on the go so the 2nd car is a saviour.

Absolutely second your sentiments on being reluctant to drive beyond the range of the car, particularly now that the cold weather has reduced the range even further. I wouldn't head off on a long journey requiring multiple public charges at this point unless I had loads of time to waste and no one depending on my arrival / return time. For me the Leaf and a cheap ICE is a good combination as one car will always be available to do whatever journey is required.

Silent Running

creedp wrote: »

Appreciate that the Ioniq is your only car and was referring to my own circumstances as I have 4 kids so the Leaf doesn't cut it when we travel together which is quite regularly. Also the kids are constantly on the go so the 2nd car is a saviour.

Absolutely second your sentiments on being reluctant to drive beyond the range of the car, particularly now that the cold weather has reduced the range even further. I wouldn't head off on a long journey requiring multiple public charges at this point unless I had loads of time to waste and no one depending on my arrival / return time. For me the Leaf and a cheap ICE is a good combination as one car will always be available to do whatever journey is required.

I really don't get this.

The public charging network isn't great, I'll admit, but it's getting better for CCS cars. New triple head units are replacing unreliable Chademo units all across the country. I spend a lot of my driving time a very long way away from my home charger. My Ioniq has only 28kWh available, but it seems to be enough. I rarely have charging issues and when I come to an occupied charger I either roll on to the planned backup charger or have a cup of coffee while I wait for the car to finish.

I think that the voices saying the network is a mess are basing their opinions on chargers like Naas, Lucan, Blanchardstown and the like. For instance, Dublin airport charger is in a very busy petrol station where parking is an issue. There is a woman in a black leaf that uses the charger as her personal parking place. She plugs in and is charging, but I've seen her plug in with 80ish% battery. Any fee for charging will see these chargers available a lot more than they are now.

The network isn't great, and there are large areas of the country that need to be covered, but it's not as bad as it's painted. The UK isn't any better, but they have fees for charging, so people don't hold the charger up sucking free electricity. People on here are saying it's great that they have a rapid near their home? I mean, WTF? Why would anyone need a rapid near their home charger?

creedp

Silent Running wrote: »

? I mean, WTF? Why would anyone need a rapid near their home charger?

Because its free!

ei9go

I think it happened at Waterford FCP. There was an ioniq charging and I connected the Zoe to the Fast AC and there was a loud click and I'd swear the CCS stopped. The fast ac needs to be configured to only work with 3 phase.

fricatus

Silent Running wrote: »

Why would anyone need a rapid near their home charger?

Other than the free leccy, the big plus of having one nearby is if something goes wrong with your home charging setup. In the year I've had my Ioniq, it has failed to charge overnight on three occasions. Two of those were simply that it tripped the switch, and the other one I couldn't figure out.

I had time to charge up before work on one occasion, but the other two times I was mighty glad that there was a fast charger not too much of a diversion away. I'd happily have paid for the service.

All they need to do is charge a few cents above the daytime rate for electricity, and implement an 80% charging limit, and most of the problems with availability would evaporate.

That 80% idea has been implemented in New Zealand according to the guy on Plug Life (YouTube). He also says that slow chargers should be installed at FCP locations so that people can move their cars onto an A/C charger for charging above 80% and free up FCPs for people who need them.

fricatus

ei9go wrote: »

I think it happened at Waterford FCP. There was an ioniq charging and I connected the Zoe to the Fast AC and there was a loud click and I'd swear the CCS stopped. The fast ac needs to be configured to only work with 3 phase.

This happened me in Gorey. I had just started a CCS charge when a lady in a Leaf arrived and plugged into the ChaDeMo. This stopped my charge, which really surprised me.

She was extremely nice and stopped her charge so that I could continue. I'd have been fairly unhappy if I'd gone off and had coffee though... it's taught me the lesson that I should just stay by the car for as much of the time as possible. I'll only stop doing that when the unit I use is CCS only.

Exactly, people now need to stay with their cars because people will connect up their car to be ready to go which will kill your charge, maybe not always and at every charger but it will happen at some point.

However, you're well within your right to start your own charge again and if it does not work tell them they need to give you access to the charger again that you were not finished. If they give you crap just do to them as they did to you and politely remind them it's one DC charger not 2.


I called Ecars and they were busy, they never called back, not yet anyway.

tedpan

Can we start naming and shaming? I've been sitting next to the blanch chademo for 25 mins, there's a leaf and an Ionic, both are finished charging and no sign of the owners. It's a disgrace...

Calahonda52

creedp wrote: »

.. For me the Leaf and a cheap ICE is a good combination as one car will always be available to do whatever journey is required.

That the model I have had to adopt to keep my job when I relocated from Dublin to Nenagh

Silent Running

tedpan wrote: »

Can we start naming and shaming? I've been sitting next to the blanch chademo for 25 mins, there's a leaf and an Ionic, both are finished charging and no sign of the owners. It's a disgrace...

There's a charging company in the UK that charges a £10 fee for overstaying. That would sort that shit out.

Duckjob

Deleted User wrote: »

Watch out for this, while getting some juice at the Carlow Fast charger a Leaf driver pulled up a while later and I said I'd let him in if he needed and he sad "no problem you can charge the two at the same time"

I said, Eah, no you can't, he said "watch" so I said I'd let him on.... anyway when his car started charging it disconnected mine automatically. He said "told you" and I said but you stopped mine charging. I said, you can't do this until someone that is using CCS finishes charging because if they come back to the car and see you charging they will think you disconnected them on purpose.

I really don't think he knew it disconnected the other car but I was very concerned that the charger allows ChaDeMo connect and charge and stop a CCS car charging in the process. Ridiculous. Probably same thing happens the other way around too.

I use CCS and any fast charger I've logged into if there was already ChaDemo being used the only option available to select was AC43.

I had an issue last week charging at Dublin Airport - Leaf was charging there, so I thought I would stick on AC and get a couple of % while I was waiting for them to finish. AC would go for a minute or 2 and then disconnect itself. I tried it about 3 or 4 times before I gave up.

Silent Running

Silent Running wrote: »

I really don't get this.

The public charging network isn't great, I'll admit, but it's getting better for CCS cars. New triple head units are replacing unreliable Chademo units all across the country. I spend a lot of my driving time a very long way away from my home charger. My Ioniq has only 28kWh available, but it seems to be enough. I rarely have charging issues and when I come to an occupied charger I either roll on to the planned backup charger or have a cup of coffee while I wait for the car to finish.

I think that the voices saying the network is a mess are basing their opinions on chargers like Naas, Lucan, Blanchardstown and the like. For instance, Dublin airport charger is in a very busy petrol station where parking is an issue. There is a woman in a black leaf that uses the charger as her personal parking place. She plugs in and is charging, but I've seen her plug in with 80ish% battery. Any fee for charging will see these chargers available a lot more than they are now.

The network isn't great, and there are large areas of the country that need to be covered, but it's not as bad as it's painted. The UK isn't any better, but they have fees for charging, so people don't hold the charger up sucking free electricity. People on here are saying it's great that they have a rapid near their home? I mean, WTF? Why would anyone need a rapid near their home charger?

It's slowly getting better as in there are more available CCS chargers but still only 1 charger per site and I've met a fair few annoyed people at chargers including Leaf 40 and Ioniq drivers.

I drove to Galway in December and the Ballinasloe charger had 2 people waiting as I was charging, I plugged out at 70 % to let the LEaf driver in, went up to him when he was having his food and told him to hop in before someone else does.

He said that's the last time he's taking the leaf from Dublin, they're not the 1st unhappy people I've talked to of course , so there's not a lot of happy people out there except perhaps those using the network as their own personal chargers.

Yes it can work for every ev owner if they're prepared to wait, I did not pay more money for the Rex for the fun of it !

And hell yes, I'll be using the Carlow DC as my own charge point because I haven't been able to use it the last 1 year and 3 months lol. I won't block it on anyone though.

Silent Running

Deleted User wrote: »

It's slowly getting better as in there are more available CCS chargers but still only 1 charger per site and I've met a fair few annoyed people at chargers including Leaf 40 and Ioniq drivers.

I drove to Galway in December and the Ballinasloe charger had 2 people waiting as I was charging, I plugged out at 70 % to let the LEaf driver in, went up to him when he was having his food and told him to hop in before someone else does.

He said that's the last time he's taking the leaf from Dublin, they're not the 1st unhappy people I've talked to of course , so there's not a lot of happy people out there except perhaps those using the network as their own personal chargers.

Yes it can work for every ev owner if they're prepared to wait, I did not pay more money for the Rex for the fun of it !

And hell yes, I'll be using the Carlow DC as my own charge point because I haven't been able to use it the last 1 year and 3 months lol. I won't block it on anyone though.

So, why's that charger so busy? It's off the motorway, so is it locals sucking the free leccy, or is the traffic coming off the motorway to it?

You'll be using the Carlow charger while some poor sod is checking it on the app and finding it busy. Cursing the network for it's inadequacy. Now we know why the network is inadequate. It's freeloaders like yourself, with all due respect.

tedpan

Silent Running wrote:

There's a charging company in the UK that charges a £10 fee for overstaying. That would sort that **** out.

The clamper just drove by, he said they were told by the ESB and the Blanchardstown centre not to clamp EVs as they were getting too many complaints from the ESB.

It's now 45 minutes, no sign of the owners..

unkel

tedpan wrote: »

Can we start naming and shaming? I've been sitting next to the blanch chademo for 25 mins, there's a leaf and an Ionic, both are finished charging and no sign of the owners. It's a disgrace...

Both can't charge at the same time. There is only one culprit there. The other was probably just waiting for the first one to come back and just plugged his car in.

Is one of them a L40? By any chance the same dick in his 181D36303 that charged and left his car for well over 2 hours the last time I was there?

liamog

tedpan wrote: »

The clamper just drove by, he said they were told by the ESB and the Blanchardstown centre not to clamp EVs as they were getting too many complaints from the ESB.

It's now 45 minutes, no sign of the owners..

That's an absolute joke, so basically people who abuse chargers have been listened too, whilst those of us who actually have a bit of cop on have to suffer reduced availabilty.

tedpan

unkel wrote:

Both can't charge at the same time. There is only one culprit there. The other was probably just waiting for the first one to come back and just plugged his car in.

Yeah, understand, but both not charging and no sign of the owners. I gave up after an hour

unkel wrote:

Is one of them a L40? By any chance the same dick in his 181D36303 that charged and left his car for well over 2 hours the last time I was there?

Nope, the leaf is a 172, guessing 30kwh and the ioniq is a 191.

liamog wrote:

That's an absolute joke, so basically people who abuse chargers have been listened too, whilst those of us who actually have a bit of cop on have to suffer reduced availabilty.

Absolute joke...