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    #992
    locum-motion
    Registered Users Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    Gloomtastic! wrote: »
    The cameraman? All hands and arms correct. No phalic signs anywhere. I give up! :rolleyes:

    Rule 2: If Rule 1 doesn’t apply, look again!


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    #993
    Capt'n Midnight
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    locum-motion wrote: »
    Rule 2: If Rule 1 doesn’t apply, look again!
    Then Rule 34


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    #994
    New Home
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    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110918750&postcount=3001

    That poor bunny was not having a good day...


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    #995
    Charlie-Bravo
    Registered Users Posts: 5,630 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    8/2(2+2) = ?

    487673.jpg

    When I looked at the equation, the answer in my head I got was 16. Then I looked at both calculators, and I could see the two possible answers. Now, I don't know what the rules are suppose to be? What do we learn in school these days?

    Oh and btw, I hate those Facebook equations that tease people about what is the right answer causing arguments (hoping none start here).

    -. . ...- . .-. / --. --- -. -. .- / --. .. ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / ..- .--.



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    #996
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,965 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    astrofluff wrote: »
    When I looked at the equation, the answer in my head I got was 16. Then I looked at both calculators, and I could see the two possible answers. Now, I don't know what the rules are suppose to be? What do we learn in school these days?

    Oh and btw, I hate those Facebook equations that tease people about what is the right answer causing arguments (hoping none start here).
    Nowadays they have fancy names but the rules haven't changed

    BIDMAS

    So the order you should do your calculations in is:

    Brackets
    Indices
    Division and Multiplication (start on the left and work them out in the order that you find them)
    Addition and Subtraction (when only addition and subtraction are left in the sum, work them out in the order you find them - starting from the left of the sum and working towards the right)

    Anyone does it differently then they don't have a STEM background.
    Science Technology Engineering Maths


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    #997
    Capt'n Midnight
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    New Home wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110918750&postcount=3001

    That poor bunny was not having a good day...
    Hare today ... gone tomorrow


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    #998
    Wilberto
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wilberto


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    Nowadays they have fancy names but the rules haven't changed

    BIDMAS

    So the order you should do your calculations in is:

    Brackets
    Indices
    Division and Multiplication (start on the left and work them out in the order that you find them)
    Addition and Subtraction (when only addition and subtraction are left in the sum, work them out in the order you find them - starting from the left of the sum and working towards the right)

    Anyone does it differently then they don't have a STEM background.
    Science Technology Engineering Maths




    Poor old BOMDAS got exiled I see. :(


    :pac::pac:


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    #999
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    And that's the conundrum, BIDMAS or BOMDAS, different answer using each method.
    Lets just hope that whatever calculations a team are doing, that they ALL use the same method!
    Just imagine getting it wrong with a nuclear device or anything to do with navigation.


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    #1000
    Wilberto
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wilberto


    Deleted User wrote: »
    And that's the conundrum, BIDMAS or BOMDAS, different answer using each method.
    Lets just hope that whatever calculations a team are doing, that they ALL use the same method!
    Just imagine getting it wrong with a nuclear device or anything to do with navigation.


    But, BIDMAS and BOMDAS don't give different answers?

    It's just semantics, basically. The O and I are the same, but just use a different word to represent it.

    As for multiplying and dividing, it actually doesn't matter which one you do first. Same for addition and subtraction. So, if you work off BODMSA and it would still lead to the same result.


    There's effectively only four parts : B O MD AS.


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    #1001
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    I think the key point is that if you're going to write out a sum like that, do it legibly and unambiguously


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    #1002
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    But if you read what it says on the calculator on the left it says "History" which I take to mean that is the history of the calculation in the order it was input so of course the answer is "wrong" compared to writing out the equation and then working it out.


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    #1003
    ganmo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Ah so the one on the left each calculation step should be on a different line
    8/2=4
    2+2=4
    4×4=16

    Still bonkers


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    #1004
    New Home
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    No, not on a different line. You can omit the multiplication sign outside a bracket, IIRC.


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    #1005
    Capt'n Midnight
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    To be, or not to be, that is the question

    __
2B . 2B


    The answer is of course -1.


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    #1006
    Spear
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,143 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    The calculator thing is nothing to do with PEMDAS or BODMAS.

    The issue is of associativity.

    One calculator is right associative, the other is left associative.

    So both answers are correct because the original equation is deliberately ambiguous so as to cause this.


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    #1007
    Star Lord
    Registered Users Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    One is taking the equation in left-right order for multiplication/division.
    The other is performing multiplication THEN division...

    At least that's how it appears to me!


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    #1008
    locum-motion
    Registered Users Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    Deleted User wrote: »
    8/2(2+2) = ?



    487673.jpg

    So, obviously and as others have said, resolving the brackets come first.

    Therefore (2+2) = 4

    That leaves 8/2(4).

    So the question then becomes:

    Does the process of "resolving the brackets" include "resolving the multiplication that is implicit in the opening bracket" or not?

    If the answer to the above question is 'Yes', then it becomes 8/8, or 1.

    If the answer is 'No', then it becomes 8/2*4, and you resolve the multiplication and division in the order they appear from left to right, and so it is 4*4 = 16.



    I do not know the correct answer to the question in bold. But I think it should be 'Yes'

    (Edited to add: This part of the Wikipedia article on the subject seems to imply that I'm right)


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    #1009
    Star Lord
    Registered Users Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    In order to be properly stated, it should probably be either:

    8/(2(2+2))

    or

    (8/2)(2+2)

    I really don't have a clue on what's the 'correct' way of handling it, tbh...


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    #1010
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    I stopped looking when neither answer was 58008.


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    #1011
    SolvableKnave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    Suckit wrote: »
    I stopped looking when neither answer was 58008.

    Don't you mean 5318008?


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    #1012
    Star Lord
    Registered Users Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    ganmo wrote: »
    I call bull nuts, has to be photoshop

    Yeah, it's either a bit of sunshine through a crack in the curtains/blinds, or a torch trained on the dogs chest.


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    #1013
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    ganmo wrote: »
    I call bull nuts, has to be photoshop
    Wait, what? You mean I can't believe everything I see on the internet? :eek: I'm shocked :P


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    #1014
    ganmo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    What? I didn't post that! :p


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    #1015
    Star Lord
    Registered Users Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    inforfun wrote: »
    https://i.imgur.com/rFpyjxE.mp4

    You want to have sound with this one

    This just made my morning!!! :D:D:D


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    #1016
    SolvableKnave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110981329&postcount=7900

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    #1017
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,321 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    For a moment I thought a cryogenic Han Solo was about to pop out.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110988622&postcount=909


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    #1018
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Bootup wrote: »
    FEcRewz.jpg

    OK so I admit it sometimes I'm a bit slooooooow "oh fox sake"

    I must have looked at that one at least 5 times before it finally dawned on me.


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    #1019
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,334 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    my3cents wrote: »
    OK so I admit it sometimes I'm a bit slooooooow "oh fox sake"

    I must have looked at that one at least 5 times before it finally dawned on me.

    Don't quite have it yet


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    #1020
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Don't quite have it yet

    Oh four foxes sake.


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    #1021
    my3cents
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Oh four foxes sake.

    Just proves after 5 attempts I still didn't have it :D


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