st brigid's day, where's all the crosses?

judeboy101

Kids came home today with no brigid's crosses, asked teacher when went to do second collection and she said they don't do it anymore as its against schools inclusion policy. It's a catholic school!!!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Our local school is doing them today - I supplied the rushes.

RayCun

judeboy101 wrote: »

Kids came home today with no brigid's crosses, asked teacher when went to do second collection and she said they don't do it anymore as its against schools inclusion policy. It's a catholic school!!!

If St Brigid's Crosses are so important to you, why don't you make them at home with your kids?
Why is it up to the school?

El Weirdo

judeboy101 wrote: »

Kids came home today with no brigid's crosses, asked teacher when went to do second collection and she said they don't do it anymore as its against schools inclusion policy. It's a catholic school!!!

Oh no! Your kids will definitely fail the Leaving Cert now.

corner of hells

El Weirdo wrote: »

Oh no! Your kids will definitely fail the Leaving Cert now.

Why was Brigid cross anyway ?

wingsof daun

We're going to see more of this in Ireland. It's mad that a fun activity is stopped because some foreigners might not like the Christian symbol of the cross.

Snow Garden

wingsof daun wrote: »

We're going to see more of this in Ireland. It's mad that a fun activity is stopped because some foreigners might not like the Christian symbol of the cross.

It might amaze you to know that some Irish people are not Christian.

Let them make baskets I say...

murpho999

wingsof daun wrote: »

We're going to see more of this in Ireland. It's mad that a fun activity is stopped because some foreigners might not like the Christian symbol of the cross.

No it's better, as kids should have fun being educated in our schools and not be indoctricated with religious hocus pocus.

Let them do that in their private time with parents.

Tabnabs

https://twitter.com/VoxHib/status/1091072150285549573

Conall Cernach

wingsof daun wrote: »

We're going to see more of this in Ireland. It's mad that a fun activity is stopped because some foreigners might not like the Christian symbol of the cross.

Isn't it widely held that the Brigit's Cross predates Christianity in Ireland and is related to the Swastika?

Grayson

Snow Garden wrote: »

It might amaze you to know that some Irish people are not Christian.

Let them make baskets I say...

Now his brain is fighting with itself about what he hates more, foreigners or atheists.

Tiguan Joe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq0ci42PnLc

Gimme A Pound

wingsof daun wrote: »

We're going to see more of this in Ireland. It's mad that a fun activity is stopped because some foreigners might not like the Christian symbol of the cross.

Probably just became outdated. I was in primary school in the 80s/90s and it wasn't much of a thing even then.

Sardonicat

Conall Cernach wrote: »

wingsof daun wrote: »

We're going to see more of this in Ireland. It's mad that a fun activity is stopped because some foreigners might not like the Christian symbol of the cross.

Isn't it widely held that the Brigit's Cross predates Christianity in Ireland and is related to the Swastika?

Indeed, I was shouted at by a guy in Switzerland for wearing a swastika on a chain. It was a silver St Brigid's cross that had belonged to a recently deceased beloved aunt, which was why I was wearing it.

pawdee

Scarcity of rushes? I was going to make several this morning but could only find enough rushes to make one. I said to myself "It's enough to make one cross!".

Humphrey BoaGart

judeboy101 wrote: »

Kids came home today with no brigid's crosses, asked teacher when went to do second collection and she said they don't do it anymore as its against schools inclusion policy. It's a catholic school!!!

Damn you, Irish Times Liberals!:D

wingsof daun

Snow Garden wrote: »

It might amaze you to know that some Irish people are not Christian.

Let them make baskets I say...

So those Irish want to attack and destroy all symbols of Christianity? I don't think so. It's a fun TRADITION in this country especially for young kids. The Christian aspect is irrelevant. We are expected to be tolerant to other cultures but they don't tolerate ours.

El Weirdo

wingsof daun wrote: »

So those Irish want to attack and destroy all symbols of Christianity? I don't think so. It's a fun TRADITION in this country especially for young kids. The Christian aspect is irrelevant. We are expected to be tolerant to other cultures but they don't tolerate ours.

Which cultures exactly?

Sardonicat

wingsof daun wrote: »

Snow Garden wrote: »

It might amaze you to know that some Irish people are not Christian.

Let them make baskets I say...

So those Irish want to attack and destroy all symbols of Christianity? I don't think so. It's a fun TRADITION in this country especially for young kids. The Christian aspect is irrelevant. We are expected to be tolerant to other cultures but they don't tolerate ours.

Who are 'they'?

I don't want to attack any symbol of any religion. I also don't think school is the place to maintain religious beliefs and traditions. Religion is a private matter. Education is a public matter. It's far more important that children are literate and numerate and confidant enough to make their transition from primary to secondary school. If you wish to maintain the fun, Irish Catholic tradition of making St Brigid's crosses then knock yourself out doing that with your child. Maybe you could help organise it with your local parish as a group activity.

Strangely enough, I never once made one at school here and that was during the 80s.

blueberrypie

They are still being made by a certain cohort of society, the students weren't seen all week. On an annual basis they take the last week in Jan. off to make the St Brigid's Day crosses and sell them in the city.

judeboy101

RayCun wrote: »

If St Brigid's Crosses are so important to you, why don't you make them at home with your kids?
Why is it up to the school?

It's a catholic school with a catholic ethos. If I wanted north Korean education id send them to educate together .

CrankyHaus

First they came for the St Brigid's Crosses, and I did not speak out for I was not a St Brigid's Cross

NSAman

corner of hells wrote: »

Why was Brigid cross anyway ?

She was a HUGE woman, they all say that being Big Boned is not unhealthy, this woman's cloak went the whole way across the Curragh... How fat was she???

Sardonicat

judeboy101 wrote: »

RayCun wrote: »

If St Brigid's Crosses are so important to you, why don't you make them at home with your kids?
Why is it up to the school?

It's a catholic school with a catholic ethos. If I wanted north Korean education id send them to educate together .

Did you not just say that the Christian aspect of it didn't matter, that it was a fun tradition. Make your mind up.

It was never practised in the Catholic school with the Catholic ethos that I attended.

Amirani

judeboy101 wrote: »

It's a catholic school with a catholic ethos. If I wanted north Korean education id send them to educate together .

It's a school in Ireland paid for by Irish taxpayers. It should be open and inclusive of all kids in Ireland, regardless of religion.

If you want to go off and fund your own closed-minded cult institution, go ahead.

Amirani

wingsof daun wrote: »

So those Irish want to attack and destroy all symbols of Christianity? I don't think so. It's a fun TRADITION in this country especially for young kids. The Christian aspect is irrelevant. We are expected to be tolerant to other cultures but they don't tolerate ours.

It's not my tradition or culture, and I'm Irish. Why is your culture more Irish than mine?

RayCun

judeboy101 wrote: »

It's a catholic school with a catholic ethos. If I wanted north Korean education id send them to educate together .

You seem to be confused about Educate Together.

Is making crosses out of rushes part of the primary curriculum?

Why don't you do it yourself at home?

The Tetrarch

It is just a bits of arts and crafts.
It is like catmint to the thread lecturers.

gozunda

I say bring back the whole panoply of Celtic gods including Brigid! There's been nothing but war and pandemonium since these sand religions have taken hold - away with the lot of them! Brigid Abu!

super_furry

Aren't they just culchie ninja stars anyway?

The One Doctor

corner of hells wrote: »

Why was Brigid cross anyway ?

She tripped over a cross.

Ipso

Tabnabs wrote: »

https://twitter.com/VoxHib/status/1091072150285549573

That word salad looks vegan.

wingsof daun

wingsof daun wrote: »

So those Irish want to attack and destroy all symbols of Christianity?

Cordon off the churches, the wrecking crew are on their way.

Your Face

F--k your chicken-strips.

Hotblack Desiato

judeboy101 wrote: »

It's a catholic school with a catholic ethos. If I wanted north Korean education id send them to educate together .

Well, that's one of the most ignorant comments I've read in a while

judeboy101

Amirani wrote: »

It's a school in Ireland paid for by Irish taxpayers. It should be open and inclusive of all kids in Ireland, regardless of religion.

If you want to go off and fund your own closed-minded cult institution, go ahead.

The vast majority of tax payers are catholic and we still live in a democracy. despite DES giving parents chance to convert schools from catholic to other ethos very few have chosen to do so.

judeboy101

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Well, that's one of the most ignorant comments I've read in a while

Kids in NK go to schools with a socialist ethos, ET schools espouse socialist ideals of equality, am I missing something? To quote little Debbie "treating people equal when they obviously aren't is called communism".

Ipso

judeboy101 wrote: »

Kids in NK go to schools with a socialist ethos, ET schools espouse socialist ideals of equality, am I missing something? To quote little Debbie "treating people equal when they obviously aren't is called communism".

I agree. The unionists were right to treat taigs the way they did.

lawred2

judeboy101 wrote: »

Kids came home today with no brigid's crosses, asked teacher when went to do second collection and she said they don't do it anymore as its against schools inclusion policy. It's a catholic school!!!

So I presume when they came home you got stuck into it yourself with them?

eviltwin

judeboy101 wrote: »

Kids in NK go to schools with a socialist ethos, ET schools espouse socialist ideals of equality, am I missing something? To quote little Debbie "treating people equal when they obviously aren't is called communism".

Schools promoting the idea of equality.....whats wrong with that?

lawred2

wingsof daun wrote: »

We're going to see more of this in Ireland. It's mad that a fun activity is stopped because some foreigners might not like the Christian symbol of the cross.

Foreigners? lol

judeboy101

eviltwin wrote: »

Schools promoting the idea of equality.....whats wrong with that?

It's not natural. Equality is a sociological construction.

eviltwin

judeboy101 wrote: »

It's not natural. Equality is a sociological construction.

is that what they teach kids in catholic schools?

Ipso

eviltwin wrote: »

Schools promoting the idea of equality.....whats wrong with that?

Nothing, obviously when you can put yourself at the top.

judeboy101

lawred2 wrote: »

So I presume when they came home you got stuck into it yourself with them?

Made some out of strips of A4 paper, no reeds in my estate. Also leaving some clothes out tonite for Brigid to bless.

lawred2

judeboy101 wrote: »

Kids in NK go to schools with a socialist ethos, ET schools espouse socialist ideals of equality, am I missing something? To quote little Debbie "treating people equal when they obviously aren't is called communism".

Oh go take your face for a $hit will you..

PingTing comes for Fire

Don't rush to judgement.

tigerboon

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Isn't it widely held that the Brigit's Cross predates Christianity in Ireland and is related to the Swastika?

So she was a Nazi. Bloody Church blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Hotblack Desiato

judeboy101 wrote: »

Kids in NK go to schools with a socialist ethos, ET schools espouse socialist ideals of equality, am I missing something?

Yes, plenty.

judeboy101

eviltwin wrote: »

is that what they teach kids in catholic schools?

It's called science, not fluffy rainbow socialist neo-liberal indoctrination.

lawred2

judeboy101 wrote: »

Made some out of strips of A4 paper, no reeds in my estate. Also leaving some clothes out tonite for Brigid to bless.

But the teachers are expected to plan in advance for an entire class of children?

While you couldn't be arsed going beyond the confines of your estate?