Is meat too cheap

Was in lidil and two ribeye stakes are 5.39 euro and a cowboy steak was 7euro and its a large amount of meat. I have got a fillet steak before for 4 euro and im not that mad about fillet steak its just seemed like good value.

Meat has decreased hugely in price steak would have been a massive treat at one time because of its cost.

Panthro

The steaks are high..

Crock Rock

I don't have any backgroundknowledge in farming so I couldn't tell. I'm 28 too. I don't know how old you are.

I love a nice rib eye steak (almost raw) just lighly seared on the outside.

Crock Rock

Panthro wrote: »

The steaks are high..

Bad cow pun ....

Harry Palmr

Meat is cheap in both real and historical terms. Your grandparents hardly ate meat beyond a few rashers and sausages on a weekend but now it's churned out so "efficiently" that you can buy low grade legal meat for less than half what it should cost if measured by welfare and quality. You could blame the farmer but it's the wholesalers and retailers who need taking to task - and the public for demanding cheap over good.

How Soon Is Now

Nothing can be too cheap in this country!

You get a bargain **** you better take it!

Fr_Dougal

mariaalice wrote: »

Was in lidil and two ribeye stakes are 5.39 euro and a cowboy steak was 7euro and its a large amount of meat. I have got a fillet steak before for 4 euro and im not that mad about fillet steak its just seemed like good value.

Meat has decreased hugely in price steak would have been a massive treat at one time because of its cost.

Wood is cheaper than cow.

Your Face

Does the OP think food should be expensive?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

It depends on where you buy it and the quality/cut.


Of course the vegans will tell us it's too cheap and too cruel.

Buford T. Justice XIX

We spend something like 10% of disposable incomes on food on average, probably the lowest figure in history.


Enjoy it while it lasts. Worldwide, something like 30% of all food produced is thrown out and tillable land is decreasing at 1% a year from encroaching urban building. And that's before the effects of climate change moving the most suitable climatic conditions further north.


We're all DOOMED, DOOMED I TELLS YA:pac:

Buford T. Justice XIX

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Wood is cheaper than cow.

Water is cheaper than milk:D

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Water is cheaper than milk:D

Not in Dunnes or Tesco.

Chicken certainly is. When you can buy a chick for €4 and think that the retailer got their cut, it has been package and transposed, and grown from an egg.

Something isn't right there. Don't eat battery hens lads.

Catepillar1994

Farmers are putting so much into rearimg of the animals and there return is they get is far too little factories are to blame

Lemsiper

Crock Rock wrote: »

I don't have any backgroundknowledge in farming so I couldn't tell. I'm 28 too. I don't know how old you are.

I love a nice rib eye steak (almost raw) just lighly seared on the outside.

I'd advise cooking further.

A relatively fatty steak, such as a ribeye, would be far more enjoyable when cooked to medium or even med rare so as to allow sufficient rendering of fat, thus increasing the flavour content.

Cuts such as fillet or rump would be far more conducive to your preferred from cooking method.

suicide_circus

A whole chicken for 2.99 is some ****ed up ****

BeerWolf

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Wood is cheaper than cow.

Nothing like a good stake.

Ronan|Raven

Chicken is far too cheap and as a result the quality is terrible too.

gozunda

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

Chicken is far too cheap and as a result the quality is terrible too.

Ditto cheap crap bread, cheap tasteless vegetables, cheap vinegary wine...

Humans like 'cheap' ... there you go!

doolox

Cheap wine.
Cheap cake.
Cheap cheese.
Cheap anything.
When I was young food was dear and people fought over scraps.
Now food is relatively cheap but lodgings are dear. One compensates for the other.

You can bet that lodgings ( rent or mortgage) will not go down in price if food suddenly gets dearer.

Enjoy the cheap food while you are allowed to.

Squall Leonhart

Crock Rock wrote: »

Bad cow pun ....

Run Cow Run

eviltwin

I was raised on a mostly vegetarian diet because meat was so expensive. That was only back in the late 80's. I suppose compared to what you buy today it was good quality stuff though, none of this processed crap pumped full of water and other stuff.

Fr_Dougal

BeerWolf wrote: »

Nothing like a good stake.

With pepper sawce.

meeeeh

I got 4 pork chops in Lidl today for under 3 Euro. There is so much water in them it's ridiculous. I normally get them in butcher's and theirs are much better buy despite being more expensive. I like to buy pricier steaks in Aldi because they are well packaged and I can keep them in the fridge but a lot of supermarket chicken and pork is complete rubbish. Low price isn't everything.

whiskeyman

Venison is dear...

Hrududu

Harry Palmr wrote: »

... you can buy low grade legal meat...

No sir, no thank you, I'm here for the low grade illegal meat, don't you be trying to upsell me.

mikeym

Dont forget the Irish Beef is way better than the foreign beef.

Most of the chicken thats consumed has probably been sourced from Holland or Germany.

Always Tired

they make up for it by with the high price of spices, sauces, oils and condiments which are used in combination with the meat.

magentis

mariaalice wrote: »

Was in lidil and two ribeye stakes are 5.39 euro and a cowboy steak was 7euro and its a large amount of meat. I have got a fillet steak before for 4 euro and im not that mad about fillet steak its just seemed like good value.

Meat has decreased hugely in price steak would have been a massive treat at one time because of its cost.

Those prices must be a mistake.

magentis

magentis wrote: »

Those prices must be a mistake.

They're not but the cowboy steak was a special, there is usually a good selection in my local Lidi but in the one near work its savage meat is gone very quickly.

Always Tired

Always Tired wrote: »

they make up for it by with the high price of spices, sauces, oils and condiments which are used in combination with the meat.

Farmers don't see any of that

Dakota Dan

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Water is cheaper than milk:D

First thought that came into my head reading that post.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Crock Rock wrote: »

Bad cow pun ....

Squall Leonhart wrote: »

Run Cow Run

You made me put this on!

Rows Grower

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

You made me put this on!

The blessings of God on Gerry Ryan for promoting this tune.

An absolute nugget of a song.

_Brian

Beef is too cheap, probably needs to be 50% dearer to be close to its actual cost.

The beef supply chain has become completely disfunctional.

A farmer reared an animal for two years, takes all the risk associated with injury to themselves or mortality rates in animals yet makes half what a store makes and they only handle the meat for maybe 10-12 days tops.

Dakotabigone

The poor mouth from the disadvantaged farmers is enough to bring me to play my small violin. Must go out to my Tiguan for it.

Bobby Baccala

_Brian wrote: »

Beef is too cheap, probably needs to be 50% dearer to be close to its actual cost.

The beef supply chain has become completely disfunctional.

A farmer reared an animal for two years, takes all the risk associated with injury to themselves or mortality rates in animals yet makes half what a store makes and they only handle the meat for maybe 10-12 days tops.

What about cuts that have to be matured for weeks that's hardly 10-12 days tops

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Lemsiper wrote: »

I'd advise cooking further.

A relatively fatty steak, such as a ribeye, would be far more enjoyable when cooked to medium or even med rare so as to allow sufficient rendering of fat, thus increasing the flavour content.

Cuts such as fillet or rump would be far more conducive to your preferred from cooking method.

Agreed. Rib eye is best cooked medium due to its high fat content.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Annalise Damp Peppercorn wrote: »

It depends on where you buy it and the quality/cut.


Of course the vegans will tell us it's too cheap and too cruel.

They may have a point. I’m an omnivore and I have no problem admitting that much of our meat is too cheap and that you don’t want to think too hard about how chickens and pigs are raised. I grew up in a house where we were frequently reminded where our meat came from. A few of my uncles hunt and fish. I’d often come home to find a bucket of live eels in the kitchen or my mother gutting a rabbit or fish.

I also grew up very near an intensive chicken farm and was in it a few times. It’s not pretty.

So many people are disconnected from how the meat they eat gets on their plate and that to meet demand, both supply- and price-wise, pigs and poultry don’t get treated all that well. Sheep and cows do fare better, in this country at least.

Those prices are too cheap in my opinion, Beef farming is a victim of its own successes in Ireland, plus not enough view their farm as purely a business and too much hobby farming i.e having a job as will keeping a few cattle on the side. It's very hard to see how to reverse the situation.

Dakota Dan

Rows Grower wrote: »

The blessings of God on Gerry Ryan for promoting this tune.

An absolute nugget of a song.

Except for the fact that cows are female.

sbsquarepants

suicide_circus wrote: »

A whole chicken for 2.99 is some ****ed up ****

2.99 at the till - but you've generally subsidised that motherfúcker with the tax you pay every step of the way.

You get nothing for nothing in this life - unless you steal it that is:D

Irish_peppa

Bought a pineapple in lidl last night pineapple that was grown in Costa Rica and flown or shipped here either way you look at it 99 cent in the middle of winter!
Sure a bottle of water is more expensive lol
that is just crazy:cool:

Graces7

Irish_peppa wrote: »

Bought a pineapple in lidl last night pineapple that was grown in Costa Rica and flown or shipped here either way you look at it 99 cent in the middle of winter!
Sure a bottle of water is more expensive lol
that is just crazy:cool:

Just enjoy!

Assetbacked

Cheap meat is a false economy. I cannot fathom how an organic, well-cared-for animal could be of the same standard in meat versus one which lived an extremely stressful life, pumped full of antibiotics. If it applied to people it would be the equivalent of choosing an obese person or a drug addict versus a pampered, stress-free princess or a vegan.

Assetbacked

Assetbacked wrote: »

Cheap meat is a false economy. I cannot fathom how an organic, well-cared-for animal could be of the same standard in meat versus one which lived an extremely stressful life, pumped full of antibiotics. If it applied to people it would be the equivalent of choosing an obese person or a drug addict versus a pampered, stress-free princess or a vegan.

It's very carefully monitored in Ireland Lamb is practically free range in Ireland the quality of beef in Ireland excellent maybe the best in the world. I have my doubts about organic food as being any better.

gozunda

Assetbacked wrote: »

Cheap meat is a false economy. I cannot fathom how an organic, well-cared-for animal could be of the same standard in meat versus one which lived an extremely stressful life, pumped full of antibiotics. If it applied to people it would be the equivalent of choosing an obese person or a drug addict versus a pampered, stress-free princess or a vegan.

Ok wowa there. Meat produced in Ireland is not 'pumped' full of antibiotics no matter what the anti meat veganistas tell ya. That is the current law and the standard is strictly enforced.

Also organic cattle and non organic cattle sheep etc in Ireland live very similar lives - grazing in fields and only housed when grass growth stops and weather is poor. Many supermarkets sell meat at below cost price to encourage buying and in many cases the price does not reflect the true costs of rearing and looking after an animal from farm to fork.

igCorcaigh

mariaalice wrote: »

I have my doubts about organic food as being any better.

Organic eggs are better than free range, it must do something to the quality.

Tesco sell very good quality chicken breasts at €5 for two. I rarely cook chicken at home, but that's what I get when I do.

Can't seem to find free range pork anywhere in the city.

I wouldn't mind good quality vegetables and herbs being a bit cheaper though.

igCorcaigh

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Organic eggs are better than free range, it must do something to the quality.

Tesco sell very good quality chicken breasts at €5 for two. I rarely cook chicken at home, but that's what I get when I do.

Can't seem to find free range pork anywhere in the city.

I wouldn't mind good quality vegetables and herbs being a bit cheaper though.

I buy free-range eggs and would only buy a free-range roast chicken, I have never seen free-range pork in a supermarket, but free range is not organic, However, I eat in work and eat out and which Im fairly sure its not free range so its probably a moot point.

sk8erboii

Assetbacked wrote: »

Cheap meat is a false economy. I cannot fathom how an organic, well-cared-for animal could be of the same standard in meat versus one which lived an extremely stressful life, pumped full of antibiotics. If it applied to people it would be the equivalent of choosing an obese person or a drug addict versus a pampered, stress-free princess or a vegan.

Im about to blow your mind here. Cheap food = energy surplus = industry. Food might be heavily subsidized by the government even at a loss, but thats a given considering the alternative is going back to subsistence and completely halting a country’s GDP and industrial capability because everyone is too busy tending to food.

The industrial revolution and rise of urban centers happened because farming technology advanced to the point where rural farmland could supply energy (food) for urban centers.

Long story, yeah food might be too cheap, but only cause the real price is having a developed nation

Subcomandante Marcos

Annalise Damp Peppercorn wrote: »

Not in Dunnes or Tesco.

2 litres of Tesco branded water is a lot cheaper than Tesco branded milk.

But oddly two litres of cheap Tesco cola is 1c cheaper than 2litres of cheap Tesco water.