What would you do with the chainsaws?

josip

https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2019/0129/1026215-bantry-cork/


I know what I'd like to do, but in reality I wouldn't have the balls to do it, even if I knew I'd get away with it.

Feisar

Them door to door salesmen can be quite pushy.

Grayson

So if she bought them and then cancelled the cheque, is she technically stealing the chainsaws?

SoundsRight

Wonder where the 'travelling' salesman got them from?

boombang

Is anybody reporting the ethnicity of these "travelling" salesmen?

I note an article from the UK in 2015 about Irish men selling similar items from the backs of Range Rovers:

https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/13771165.police-investigate-suspicious-irish-men-selling-chainsaws-and-generators-from-a-range-rover/

sbsquarepants

I'll buy one off her. I always fancied having a go at a bit of chain saw sculpture!

Foweva Awone

Grayson wrote: »

So if she bought them and then cancelled the cheque, is she technically stealing the chainsaws?

I'm guessing they probably fell off the back of a lorry in the first place. I swear, boss!

Johnny Red Cab

Picture in the article are of generators. Not a chainsaw in sight.

JPCN1

Johnny Red Cab wrote: »

Picture in the article are of generators. Not a chainsaw in sight.

You might want to visit spec savers...

Horrible effers to be pressuring the elderly like this. I'd worry for her that they'd come back looking for the goods or money.

RMAOK

Grayson wrote: »

So if she bought them and then cancelled the cheque, is she technically stealing the chainsaws?

Given the fact that these "salesmen" harassed and intimidated an elderly woman living alone, I think the question of her stealing these saws is pointless imo.

What a coincidence that these "reputable salesmen" thought it a good idea to push this stock on a vulnerable member of society who obviously had no use for it. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Elderly people are living in fear in this country - if these lads were caught, the full rigors of the law should come to bear on these ****ers. :mad:

Dakotabigone

Johnny Red Cab wrote: »

Picture in the article are of generators. Not a chainsaw in sight.

12 chainsaws in plain view. 11 are boxed.

turdball

Suppose i could cut the tyres on certain people's houses as payback

Grayson

RMAOK wrote: »

Given the fact that these "salesmen" harassed and intimidated an elderly woman living alone, I think the question of her stealing these saws is pointless imo.

What a coincidence that these "reputable salesmen" thought it a good idea to push this stock on a vulnerable member of society who obviously had no use for it. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Elderly people are living in fear in this country - if these lads were caught, the full rigors of the law should come to bear on these ****ers. :mad:

To be fair the story never says she was intimidated. It says that she was pressured. And that's what all salesmen do. The vast majority of door to door salesmen in Ireland are selling legitimate merchandise. It's quite possible that they were just really pushy, sold one thing and then went back because she was an easy sell.

We literally don't know what happened.

If it was someone who used intimidation to get a sale, then I agree, they should be punished. But we can't say for certain that it was.

sbsquarepants

Dakotabigone wrote: »

12 chainsaws in plain view. 11 are boxed.

What the....


I see 1 chainsaw- unboxed, plus a heap of generators, power washers and some other stuff I can't quite make out, but I can make it out enough to tell it's not a chainsaw (looks like those portable speakers on wheels the kids annoy everyone with), plus a few boxes of other non chainsaw related something or others!

Edit - Never mind , I can see them now!

JPCN1

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair the story never says she was intimidated. It says that she was pressured. And that's what all salesmen do. The vast majority of door to door salesmen in Ireland are selling legitimate merchandise. It's quite possible that they were just really pushy, sold one thing and then went back because she was an easy sell.

We literally don't know what happened.

If it was someone who used intimidation to get a sale, then I agree, they should be punished. But we can't say for certain that it was.

Why the fuuk would an elderly lady want dozens of chainsaws and generators?

SEPT 23 1989

the unopened boxes are full of bricks

Feisar

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

the unopened boxes are full of bricks

I see you've been to Clara market.

josip

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair the story never says she was intimidated. It says that she was pressured. And that's what all salesmen do. The vast majority of door to door salesmen in Ireland are selling legitimate merchandise. It's quite possible that they were just really pushy, sold one thing and then went back because she was an easy sell.

We literally don't know what happened.

If it was someone who used intimidation to get a sale, then I agree, they should be punished. But we can't say for certain that it was.

What kind of country do you want to live in?
Where it's ok to take money off an old woman living alone for?

12 Chainsaws
11 Generators
7 Power Washers
Tools

Really?

sbsquarepants

JPCN1 wrote: »

Why the fuuk would an elderly lady want dozens of chainsaws and generators?

I don't think they really cared!

I wonder what John Connors makes of all this - probably wants the racist auld dear done for passing dodgy cheques to hard working salesmen.:D

Patrick2010

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair the story never says she was intimidated. It says that she was pressured. And that's what all salesmen do. The vast majority of door to door salesmen in Ireland are selling legitimate merchandise. It's quite possible that they were just really pushy, sold one thing and then went back because she was an easy sell.

We literally don't know what happened.

If it was someone who used intimidation to get a sale, then I agree, they should be punished. But we can't say for certain that it was.

No matter what the thread there's always someone who'll play devils advocate for the crack.
So she bought one chainsaw then decided she could use another 11, along with 11 generators and a load of power washers????

Giveaway

Que every utility company's sales team blasting their way to bantry right now(and phonewatch)

ohnonotgmail

Is she selling them off cheap?

aziz

And not a socket set in sight:D

DEFTLEFTHAND

Hopefully all are returned to their rightful owners.

Edgware

If cheques were cashed it shouldnt be too hard to track the account holder.
Of course we have the usual gob****es who wants to give these bastards the benefit of the doubt

Johnny Red Cab

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Hopefully all are returned to their rightful owners.

The "Hoi Sing" chainsaw factory?

frosty123

SoundsRight wrote: »

Wonder where the 'travelling' salesman got them from?

On his travels?

freshpopcorn

I've a relative who used be a bit naive in the past(They've wised up now) and they purchased a power tool off a travelling sales man. It never worked. I think there was a part missing.
We tracked down roughly where they were from and it turned out they were arrested by the Gardai for an unrelated crime and died in Gardai custody.

jackofalltrades

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair the story never says she was intimidated. It says that she was pressured. And that's what all salesmen do. The vast majority of door to door salesmen in Ireland are selling legitimate merchandise. It's quite possible that they were just really pushy, sold one thing and then went back because she was an easy sell.

We literally don't know what happened.

If it was someone who used intimidation to get a sale, then I agree, they should be punished. But we can't say for certain that it was.

Really, your going to try and defend one of the most blatant forms of extortion that I've read about in quite some time.

The Garda Sgt described it as a ""heinous crime" against a vulnerable person" and advised elderly people to use "a door chain or limiter to prevent them forcing their way inside".
I don't think this is a case of someone not knowing how to say no to a "do you want to switch energy supplier" type of call.

freshpopcorn

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair the story never says she was intimidated. It says that she was pressured. And that's what all salesmen do. The vast majority of door to door salesmen in Ireland are selling legitimate merchandise. It's quite possible that they were just really pushy, sold one thing and then went back because she was an easy sell.

We literally don't know what happened.

If it was someone who used intimidation to get a sale, then I agree, they should be punished. But we can't say for certain that it was.

I don't know is this an urban/rural thing but the only sales men I see are selling dodgy tools, knives, socks and boots.

Hammer89

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I don't think they really cared!

I wonder what John Connors makes of all this - probably wants the racist auld dear done for passing dodgy cheques to hard working salesmen.:D

I'd say he's fuming that his cheques were cancelled.

PingTing comes for Fire

Grayson wrote: »

So if she bought them and then cancelled the cheque, is she technically stealing the chainsaws?

Standard cooling off period before permanent commitment to the contract.

BeerWolf

Good time to learn to juggle chainsaws I reckon.

blade1

Did she use travellers cheques?

DEFTLEFTHAND

What type of men prey on old women's cheque books?

Gimme A Pound

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair

No.

the story never says she was intimidated. It says that she was pressured. And that's what all salesmen do. The vast majority of door to door salesmen in Ireland are selling legitimate merchandise. It's quite possible that they were just really pushy, sold one thing and then went back because she was an easy sell.

We literally don't know what happened.

If it was someone who used intimidation to get a sale, then I agree, they should be punished. But we can't say for certain that it was.

No, just no.

12 chainsaws, 11 generators, seven power washers and assorted tools. The devil doesn't need an advocate here.

turdball

Getting ready for the zombie apocalypse I reckon

bucketybuck

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair the story never says she was intimidated. It says that she was pressured. And that's what all salesmen do. The vast majority of door to door salesmen in Ireland are selling legitimate merchandise. It's quite possible that they were just really pushy, sold one thing and then went back because she was an easy sell.

We literally don't know what happened.

If it was someone who used intimidation to get a sale, then I agree, they should be punished. But we can't say for certain that it was.

:rolleyes:

There's always one.

KrustyUCC

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair the story never says she was intimidated. It says that she was pressured. And that's what all salesmen do. The vast majority of door to door salesmen in Ireland are selling legitimate merchandise. It's quite possible that they were just really pushy, sold one thing and then went back because she was an easy sell.

We literally don't know what happened.

If it was someone who used intimidation to get a sale, then I agree, they should be punished. But we can't say for certain that it was.

Needles73

Patrick2010 wrote: »

No matter what the thread there's always someone who'll play devils advocate for the crack.
So she bought one chainsaw then decided she could use another 11, along with 11 generators and a load of power washers????

Ah come on ... She was cute enough. Seeing they were crap quality she knew to do a days work she’d easily need the twelve chainsaws. She knows her saws.

Omackeral

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What type of men prey on old women's cheque books?

I think we all know the answer to that if we're being honest.

Those dirty, stinking, good-for-nothing bastards...

The Amish.

demanufactured

Cold callers eh?
I think they mean dirty fooking knackers.

Emporor Rosko

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What type of men prey on old women's cheque books?

Minister for finance around budget time?

blade1

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What type of men prey on old women's cheque books?

Priests.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I’d sell them to the travellers, they’re always buying shït like that to sell on and try and turn a quick buck.

Beechwoodspark

Whoever swindled her are the Absolute scum of the earth

maxwell smart

I'm making a supposition here but bear with me.

Let's say these 'travelling salesmen' are not registered for VAT. Infact (Shock Horror) they are actually technically unemployed and in receipt of a social welfare payment for, oh I don't know, disability allowance for instance.

So how would they then be able to lodge the cheques into their bank accounts without raising a few suspicious eyebrows in the Department of Social Welfare, or would such eyebrow raising be in itself racist?

I don't think anywhere actually cashes cheques anymore do they? Or as these fine upstanding members of society are in such good social standing perhaps the local landlord of their favorite watering hole may perhaps oblige?

Or am I very naive indeed?

Johnny Red Cab

They get the cheques made out to cash, or left blank.

There are still dodgy pubs that will cash cheques and certain other places that will oblige.

blade1

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I’d sell them to the travellers, they’re always buying shït like that to sell on and try and turn a quick buck.

And me there thinking they just robbed them! :eek:

holystungun9

maxwell smart wrote: »

I'm making a supposition here but bear with me.

Let's say these 'travelling salesmen' are not registered for VAT. Infact (Shock Horror) they are actually technically unemployed and in receipt of a social welfare payment for, oh I don't know, disability allowance for instance.

So how would they then be able to lodge the cheques into their bank accounts without raising a few suspicious eyebrows in the Department of Social Welfare, or would such eyebrow raising be in itself racist?

I don't think anywhere actually cashes cheques anymore do they? Or as these fine upstanding members of society are in such good social standing perhaps the local landlord of their favorite watering hole may perhaps oblige?

Or am I very naive indeed?

Can confirm. Eyebrow raising = racist. Tread carefully.

Renegade Mechanic

Chainsaw alarm. Anything else is frankly a waste of a chainsaw.

https://youtu.be/T1vUJRICT2Y