Used BMW i3 experiences

unkel

unkel wrote: »

Or at a tethered triple head fast AC charger of course!

Indeed, if the DC side of the charger is in use the AC can be used @ 11 Kw.

Gumbo

I'm seriously considering an i3 at the moment.
I'm looking at one that the ad says xenon headlights, but look like halogen housing. Did the 2016 i3 have LED headlights?

http://deerparkmotors.com/vehicle/170-bhp-range-extender/

unkel

That looks sweet. Similar range as your Leaf, but of course you get the REx on top of that.

kceire

kceire wrote: »

I'm seriously considering an i3 at the moment.
I'm looking at one that the ad says xenon headlights, but look like halogen housing. Did the 2016 i3 have LED headlights?

http://deerparkmotors.com/vehicle/170-bhp-range-extender/

Only LED/Halogen lights, option only.

But they seem to be quite dazzling to oncoming drivers , I get flashed a lot and can see people in front in slow traffic dipping their rear view mirrors so I need to get it checked out, probably doesn't help the i3 is a pretty tall car either and the lights are up high.

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

That looks sweet. Similar range as your Leaf, but of course you get the REx on top of that.

I'd even say the EV range would be more in the i3?

Deleted User wrote: »

Only LED/Halogen lights, option only.

Cheers, id find it hard going back to halogens. Our E60 had Xenon, our F10 has Xenons and my Leaf has the LED.

unkel

kceire wrote: »

I'd even say the EV range would be more in the i3?

Yeah, you're probably right there. I3 is 22kWh and Leaf is 24kWh, but Leaf is inefficient and i3 is the second most efficient vehicle ever tested after Ioniq. Have you driven an i3 yet? If not, I'd love to hear your experience when you do.

zoom_cool

kceire wrote: »

I'm seriously considering an i3 at the moment.
I'm looking at one that the ad says xenon headlights, but look like halogen housing. Did the 2016 i3 have LED headlights?

http://deerparkmotors.com/vehicle/170-bhp-range-extender/

Mine has the LED lights they are brilliant but I think are a expensive option.

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

Yeah, you're probably right there. I3 is 22kWh and Leaf is 24kWh, but Leaf is inefficient and i3 is the second most efficient vehicle ever tested after Ioniq. Have you driven an i3 yet? If not, I'd love to hear your experience when you do.

No, never drove one. Was a passenger in one.
But I did travel to Scotland to buy my Leaf without ever driving one before

zoom_cool wrote: »

Mine has the LED lights they are brilliant but I think are a expensive option.

Same as my Leaf, couldn't go back to Halogen!

kceire

kceire wrote: »

Cheers, id find it hard going back to halogens. Our E60 had Xenon, our F10 has Xenons and my Leaf has the LED.

LED'sc can cause a lot of glare they were fine in the Leaf but they weren't nearly as bright as on the i3.

mordeith

kceire wrote: »

I'm seriously considering an i3 at the moment.
I'm looking at one that the ad says xenon headlights, but look like halogen housing. Did the 2016 i3 have LED headlights?

http://deerparkmotors.com/vehicle/170-bhp-range-extender/

Don't think mine does. All I can tell you is that the is a blue tint to the light that's emitted from them. At least white signs show a hint of blue in the reflection

MM3

A question for those who have imported a used i3 from the UK - I emailed bmw Ireland as to whether the AUC warranty (not the original 3 year one) would be honoured here and they said it was up to the individual service center to decide that.

Anyone got any practical experience of this?

If it’s at the whim of the dealer makes buying from a BMW dealer less attractive

Thanks

M

slave1

MM3 wrote: »

A question for those who have imported a used i3 from the UK - I emailed bmw Ireland as to whether the AUC warranty (not the original 3 year one) would be honoured here and they said it was up to the individual service center to decide that.

Anyone got any practical experience of this?

If it’s at the whim of the dealer makes buying from a BMW dealer less attractive

Thanks

M

Is it really an issue though, what is the reliability record like? what can go wrong (in the real world, not anecdotal motor/electrics etc).
In any case where are you, it's really not that far to NI

MM3

slave1 wrote: »

Is it really an issue though, what is the reliability record like? what can go wrong (in the real world, not anecdotal motor/electrics etc).
In any case where are you, it's really not that far to NI

They are BMW’s , they are complex and they will go wrong! I’d rather have the comfort of the warranty. In any case I got a call from Joe Duffy’s and they said they will honour the warranty

There have been issues with steering, squeaking mainly fixed under warranty, don't think it was that common.

Early Rex issues , again I think mostly resolved. It's always best to use it if you have it now and again than to sit idle for very long periods of time but as with any mechanical vehicle anything can happen.

Someone can google and report back if there are many known issues.

MM3

Anyone got any recommendations for transporting the car back to Dublin? I have a quote for £400+VAT via Holyhead . Drop me a PM if you’d prefer

Thanks

M

unkel

Where is the car? Would you not go fly over and drive it back yourself? Did that myself with a classic car in recent times and I really enjoyed the road trip / experience. Flew out early evening and was back home a bit after 11AM the next morning. Had some sleep too on the ferry.

MM3

unkel wrote: »

Where is the car? Would you not go fly over and drive it back yourself? Did that myself with a classic car in recent times and I really enjoyed the road trip / experience. Flew out early evening and was back home a bit after 11AM the next morning. Had some sleep too on the ferry.

Too far for me to be comfortable on my first EV trip !!! If it was an ICE I’d do it myself

Gumbo

MM3 wrote: »

Anyone got any recommendations for transporting the car back to Dublin? I have a quote for £400+VAT via Holyhead . Drop me a PM if you’d prefer

Thanks

M

From bringing many cars in from the UK over the years, you need to budget €500 if your bringing home yourself. So compare that to getting a company to deliver it for you.

My rough calculations when considering a UK car :
Flight €150 (I always seem to fly on an early morning Friday flight which are higher than at other tunes)
Boat €200

Fuel €100 depending on distance. I filled the F10 up leaving London last week at £1.50/L. Cost €106 on the credit card.
Food and misc €50

If I was buying an EV in the UK, I’d only collect now if around the 100 mile mark from the boat. I brought my leaf in from Scotland and it’s a tiring trip but you do get comfortable with the car and learn it’s behaviour.

MM3

kceire wrote: »

From bringing many cars in from the UK over the years, you need to budget €500 if your bringing home yourself. So compare that to getting a company to deliver it for you.

My rough calculations when considering a UK car :
Flight €150 (I always seem to fly on an early morning Friday flight which are higher than at other tunes)
Boat €200

Fuel €100 depending on distance. I filled the F10 up leaving London last week at £1.50/L. Cost €106 on the credit card.
Food and misc €50

Definitely getting it shipped!!

Patser

As I said earlier I used NVD.ie last year, but I was lucky as they were doing a special offer in February. Now, their website doesn't even mention private individuals, but since this is quiet time of year for them, still worth trying.

slave1

MM3 wrote: »

Anyone got any recommendations for transporting the car back to Dublin? I have a quote for £400+VAT via Holyhead . Drop me a PM if you’d prefer

Thanks

M

Just search “car transporter” on DoneDeal and phone them all up, it depends on pickup location a lot but I’ve never paid more than €350 delivered to my door

unkel

Got my car over from the UK midlands for €134 in total. Flight 40, ferry 58, petrol 20, snacks + bottle of wine 16 (free dinner and hot breakfast on ferry). If you don't drink wine and you get your electricity free, it can be done for under €100

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

Got my car over from the UK midlands for €134 in total. Flight 40, ferry 58, petrol 20, snacks + bottle of wine 16 (free dinner and hot breakfast on ferry). If you don't drink wine and you get your electricity free, it can be done for under €100

Maybe possible mid week alright. Flight wise.
Can you even get a ferry now for that price?

Zenith74

kceire wrote: »

Can you even get a ferry now for that price?

Tesco vouchers maybe?

KCross

unkel wrote: »

Got my car over from the UK midlands for €134 in total. Flight 40, ferry 58, petrol 20, snacks + bottle of wine 16 (free dinner and hot breakfast on ferry). If you don't drink wine and you get your electricity free, it can be done for under €100

I've been a few times. Always around the €200 mark for me. Certainly not the €500 mentioned above.

unkel

kceire wrote: »

Maybe possible mid week alright. Flight wise.
Can you even get a ferry now for that price?

€58. Monday night (Tuesday morning) 3:30AM nice and quiet sailing from Liverpool in September 2017

Booked just the minimum - a seat - but got a free upgrade to a cabin just for myself. Also included a hot meal at night (beef stew with green beans and rice) and a hot fried breakfast in the morning. Woke up in view of the Dublin coastline, had a hot shower, hot breakfast and was home 30 minutes after disembarking

You guys know by now I like to get good value for money

slave1

There’s also the cost of a day minumum off work and when you’re on 20 days leave a year that counts a lot

unkel

I'm self-employed. Left early evening and was back home by 11:30AM the next morning anyway, and worked (emails, calls) while waiting at various stages during my trip. No work time lost at all.

lightspeed

Apologies if it already been asked but what are the service costs for rex model?

Im thinking of the 94 AH bmwi3 rex but im wondering given it has a petrol engine is it much more expensive to service and does it need to only be done at a bmw garage or could any local mechanic service it?

I assume it would need to be serviced by bmw to maintain any warranty but i think i will buy from UK given they seem to me much cheaper with better spec. I'm not sure if warranty is transferable?

I've to bring mine in on the 28th so I'll let you know lol.

I'm expecting it to cost more of course but having the Rex means much more to me than the extra servicing. Really all they have to do is change the oil and filters. Brake fluid and probably pollen filter.

It was registered in March 2017 so this will be it's first service so I can live with the extra maintenance costs for the convenience of having the Rex, the time saved at busy chargers makes it worth every single cent !

Gumbo

KCross wrote: »

I've been a few times. Always around the €200 mark for me. Certainly not the €500 mentioned above.

Its worth noting the €500 is a rule of thumb, by no means exact.
I just budget the 500 for the total cost, and if it gets done cheaper then its a bonus.

For example, i'm looking t an i3 now. Flights to Newcastle on Friday are 160e. Cant get it cheaper. Ferry from Liverpool is 252 sterling.

Gumbo

Looking at the following, can anyone comment on spec?

41,000 miles
2 keys, full history and all books present.

September 2015 car.
BMW Warranty until December 2019.

Prod. Date 2015-08-27
Type I3 REX (EUR)
Series I01 (I Series)
Body Type CL
Steering RL
Engine IB1
Displacement 0.00
Power 125kw / 170hp
Drive HECK
Transmission Automatic
Colour CAPPARISWEISS MIT AKZENT BMW I BLAU (B85)
Upholstery NATURLED.KO.STELLARICDALBERGIABRAU (NLFT)


Editions and packages

P5DUA Parking Assistant Package
S7AQA Battery Certificate
P7KZA BMW i interior design Suite
P7RSA Package Comfort

Comfort and interior equipment

S423A Floor mats velours
S428A Warning triangle and first aid kit
S430A Interioroutside mirror with auto dip
S442A Cup holder
S473A Armrest front
S493A Storage compartment package
S494A Seat heating driverpassenger
S4U7A Rapid charging direct current
S4U8A Rapid charging alternating current

Multimedia

S609A Navigation system Professional
S654A DAB tuner
S674A HiFi System Harman Kardon
S6ACA Intelligent emergency SOS call
S6AEA Teleservices
S6AKA Connected Drive Services
S6AMA RealTime Traffic Information
S6ANA Concierge Services
S6APA Remote Services
S6ARA Internet

Driver assistance and lightning

S508A Park Distance Control PDC
S521A Rain sensor
S534A Automatic air conditioning
S544A Cruise control with brake function
S570A Reinforced power supply
S5A2A LED headlight
S5DAA Passenger airbag deactivation
S5DPA Park Assistent

Wheels and drive

S230A Extra package EUspecific
S249A Multifunction f steering wheel
S2PAA Wheel bolt retainer
S2T7A BMW i LA wheel Double Spoke 430 (20" Wheels)
S2VBA Tire pressure display
S2VCA Tire repair kit

Environment and safety

S302A Alarm system
S3AGA Reversing camera
S880A Onboard vehicle literature English
S8KZA Oil service interval 24 months
S8R9A Refrigerant R1234yf
S8S2A Coding alarm signal
S8S3A Automatic locking when driving off
S8SMA Car ident number visible from outside
S8TGA Thiefproofing device
S853A Language version English

Other equipment

L812A National version England Ireland
S9AAA Outer skin protection

unkel

kceire wrote: »

For example, i'm looking t an i3 now. Flights to Newcastle on Friday are 160e. Cant get it cheaper. Ferry from Liverpool is 252 sterling.

Not sure what site you're looking at but I'm just pricing a ferry from Liverpool myself and can easily get a €65 sailing. Flight to Manchester €28 and train GBP10. With expenses all in no more than about €130.

Bought myself another classic car on eBay last night

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

Not sure what site you're looking at but I'm just pricing a ferry from Liverpool myself and can easily get a €65 sailing. Flight to Manchester €28 and train GBP10. With expenses all in no more than about €130.

Bought myself another classic car on eBay last night

You'll have to share those links please

Car just located in Blyth, just north of Newcastle.
I can ferry from Liverpool-Dublin or Cairnryan-Belfast.

kceire

kceire wrote: »

Looking at the following, can anyone comment on spec?

41,000 miles
2 keys, full history and all books present.

September 2015 car.

Prod. Date 2015-08-27
Type I3 REX (EUR)
Series I01 (I Series)
Body Type CL
Steering RL
Engine IB1
Displacement 0.00
Power 125kw / 170hp
Drive HECK
Transmission Automatic
Colour CAPPARISWEISS MIT AKZENT BMW I BLAU (B85)
Upholstery NATURLED.KO.STELLARICDALBERGIABRAU (NLFT)


Editions and packages

P5DUA Parking Assistant Package
S7AQA Battery Certificate
P7KZA BMW i interior design Suite
P7RSA Package Comfort

Comfort and interior equipment

S423A Floor mats velours
S428A Warning triangle and first aid kit
S430A Interioroutside mirror with auto dip
S442A Cup holder
S473A Armrest front
S493A Storage compartment package
S494A Seat heating driverpassenger
S4U7A Rapid charging direct current
S4U8A Rapid charging alternating current

Multimedia

S609A Navigation system Professional
S654A DAB tuner
S674A HiFi System Harman Kardon
S6ACA Intelligent emergency SOS call
S6AEA Teleservices
S6AKA Connected Drive Services
S6AMA RealTime Traffic Information
S6ANA Concierge Services
S6APA Remote Services
S6ARA Internet

Driver assistance and lightning

S508A Park Distance Control PDC
S521A Rain sensor
S534A Automatic air conditioning
S544A Cruise control with brake function
S570A Reinforced power supply
S5A2A LED headlight
S5DAA Passenger airbag deactivation
S5DPA Park Assistent

Wheels and drive

S230A Extra package EUspecific
S249A Multifunction f steering wheel
S2PAA Wheel bolt retainer
S2T7A BMW i LA wheel Double Spoke 430 (20" Wheels)
S2VBA Tire pressure display
S2VCA Tire repair kit

Environment and safety

S302A Alarm system
S3AGA Reversing camera
S880A Onboard vehicle literature English
S8KZA Oil service interval 24 months
S8R9A Refrigerant R1234yf
S8S2A Coding alarm signal
S8S3A Automatic locking when driving off
S8SMA Car ident number visible from outside
S8TGA Thiefproofing device
S853A Language version English

Other equipment

L812A National version England Ireland
S9AAA Outer skin protection

Spec looks good to me.

Gumbo

Deleted User wrote: »

Spec looks good to me.

I didn't notice folding external mirrors, but I think they are standard are they?

kceire

kceire wrote: »

I didn't notice folding external mirrors, but I think they are standard are they?

I actually don't know but I have them you would imaging they are standard.

I didn't see keyless entry , it's handy but wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

Gumbo

Deleted User wrote: »

I actually don't know but I have them you would imaging they are standard.

I didn't see keyless entry , it's handy but wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

Keyless entry is part of the comfort package?

unkel

kceire wrote: »

You'll have to share those links please

Car just located in Blyth, just north of Newcastle.
I can ferry from Liverpool-Dublin or Cairnryan-Belfast.

Just the usual places you can book a ferry, but hint: it's a lot cheaper weekdays - particularly the 3AM sailing from L'pool!

rolion

I understood there was some upgrade(s) done on the i3 in 2016...so i've been advised to buy from 2016 upwards !?

kceire

kceire wrote: »

Keyless entry is part of the comfort package?

I think it is, shame you don't have the VIN you could find exactly what it has.

Gumbo

Deleted User wrote: »

I think it is, shame you don't have the VIN you could find exactly what it has.

I do, that's the full list from the VIN check that I posted.

rolion wrote: »

I understood there was some upgrade(s) done on the i3 in 2016...so i've been advised to buy from 2016 upwards !?

Can you elaborate on this?

unkel wrote: »

Just the usual places you can book a ferry, but hint: it's a lot cheaper weekdays - particularly the 3AM sailing from L'pool!

I'm probably snookered in only being able to go on a Friday. If I go on a Saturday the flight drops from 190 to 47!
If I do med week and do the AM ferry then I need 2 days of work.

lightspeed

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've to bring mine in on the 28th so I'll let you know lol.

I'm expecting it to cost more of course but having the Rex means much more to me than the extra servicing. Really all they have to do is change the oil and filters. Brake fluid and probably pollen filter.

It was registered in March 2017 so this will be it's first service so I can live with the extra maintenance costs for the convenience of having the Rex, the time saved at busy chargers makes it worth every single cent !

Thanks, quick google of it i see on other UK forums people quoting prices of £350 but not sure how comparable that is here.

I dont suppose you ever enquired about cost of service pack from bmw for the i3?

I see Frank Keane bmw advertise two packages but don't include prices for either which is frustrating.

https://naasroad.frankkeanebmw.ie/web/bmw-service-inclusive/

lightspeed

lightspeed wrote: »

Thanks, quick google of it i see on other UK forums people quoting prices of £350 but not sure how comparable that is here.

I dont suppose you ever enquired about cost of service pack from bmw for the i3?

I see Frank Keane bmw advertise two packages but don't include prices for either which is frustrating.

https://naasroad.frankkeanebmw.ie/web/bmw-service-inclusive/

No never enquired about it.

kceire

kceire wrote: »

Can you elaborate on this?

The upgrade in 2016 added some minor cosmetic changes as well as the 33 Kwh battery and the S version, changes to spec I can't confirm after that.

Gumbo

lightspeed wrote: »

Thanks, quick google of it i see on other UK forums people quoting prices of £350 but not sure how comparable that is here.

I dont suppose you ever enquired about cost of service pack from bmw for the i3?

I see Frank Keane bmw advertise two packages but don't include prices for either which is frustrating.

https://naasroad.frankkeanebmw.ie/web/bmw-service-inclusive/

It was €500 for both our 520d’s.
That was for 5 years servicing but it had to be bought before the first service was carried out and couldn’t be bought afterwards.

jhegarty

rolion wrote: »

I understood there was some upgrade(s) done on the i3 in 2016...so i've been advised to buy from 2016 upwards !?

50% bigger battery , so if you can afford the extra it's well worth it.

Easy know it was milder today, a lot easier to achieve 14.5 Kwh/100 kms , local driving not much above 80 km/h over this 18 Kms.



If you could average this with the 42 Kwh you could get " with maybe 38 kwh usable " 261 Kms. But I'd be expecting more like 190 - 220 at decent speeds , still, nothing to be sniffed at at all.

If they could only have allowed it charge faster than 50 Kw FFS AC cooled battery and all !!!

Best I got in summer was 230 ish Kms off the motorway little AC. In fact, sometimes it's nice to go off the motorway along the older national routes, you can get pretty decent efficiency then.

DrPhilG

kceire wrote: »

Looking at the following, can anyone comment on spec?

41,000 miles
2 keys, full history and all books present.

September 2015 car.
BMW Warranty until December 2019.

Extended warranty? I thought the warranty could only be extended during the original warranty period. Not sure how that one got an extra 3 months?

kceire wrote: »

Keyless entry is part of the comfort package?

Keyless entry is part of the "please steal my car" package.

Gumbo

DrPhilG wrote: »

Extended warranty? I thought the warranty could only be extended during the original warranty period. Not sure how that one got an extra 3 months?

It was sold as an AUC on December 1st 2018.