Service cost

12gauge dave

Hi guys about 2 weeks ago i got my 2007 diesel auris to be serviced and was charged 80 euro for

Oil+oil filter change
Fuel filter change

I thought this to be expensive as i bought all the parts myself and It is not a main dealer either.
Would you consider that expensive for labour?

Toyotafanboi

How much less could they have charged?

You probably would have paid less labour if they supplied the parts, thus a slight overall saving.

Realistically though workshops have overheads, it's like the Eddie Rockets in Dundrum Town Centre with the minimum order price per seated booth, if he didn't make a certain minimum amount it's not worth their while.

Did you not price beforehand?

12gauge dave

An oil change and fuel filter change is not an hours labour is it surely? An independent garage rate of labour can't be 80 euro an hour or am i out of whack altogether?

corks finest

12gauge dave wrote: »

Hi guys about 2 weeks ago i got my 2007 diesel auris to be serviced and was charged 80 euro for

Oil+oil filter change
Fuel filter change

I thought this to be expensive as i bought all the parts myself and It is not a main dealer either.
Would you consider that expensive for labour?

Reasonable

rex-x

12gauge dave wrote: »

An oil change and fuel filter change is not an hours labour is it surely? An independent garage rate of labour can't be 80 euro an hour or am i out of whack altogether?

It would be easily an hour, the fuel filters on those engines are not that easy to change and by the time you get it up on the lift, remove undertrays etc, drain oil it all adds up. To make better savings in future probably best not to buy the parts yourself.

Toyotafanboi

12gauge dave wrote: »

An oil change and fuel filter change is not an hours labour is it surely? An independent garage rate of labour can't be 80 euro an hour or am i out of whack altogether?

IMO, you're out of whack, but it depends on location. Certainly if on the east coast of the country, I don't think €80 an hour is nuts for a independent with a good reputation.

If you break it down like, how could you operate a business like that for much less?

I mean, get the car from the carpark, position it on the lift, drain oil, remove filter, replace filter and refill; remove fuel filter, refit, bleed (possibly through diag), mandatory safety inspection, stamp book, quick spin around the block.

You'd be hard pressed to do it in less than an hour.

corglass

rex-x wrote: »

It would be easily an hour, the fuel filters on those engines are not that easy to change and by the time you get it up on the lift, remove undertrays etc, drain oil it all adds up. To make better savings in future probably best not to buy the parts yourself.

The fuel filters are right at the very top of the engine in the auris, couldn't be easier to access.

rex-x

corglass wrote: »

The fuel filters are right at the very top of the engine in the auris, couldn't be easier to access.

They are against the firewall buried behind the airbox and you have to take out the whole assembly and then dismantle it and swap over the distribution block and water in fuel sensors etc and then re assemble. Not insane difficult or anything but it does take a bit of time.

12gauge dave

Thanks for replys, i didn't realise it was 80euro an hour for labour in some indies maybe i am out of whack.
Garage said is in a country town in roscommon. I bought parts as wanted to use good brand of engine oil.

mickdw

If there was vat on that, they are wasting their time.
A garage will usually make some margin on parts. Seeing as no parts were sold, they might have gone a little heavier on the labour.

12gauge dave

Ya it seems im out of touch with prices lads foegive me

bazz26

Somebody was robbed but fortunately OP it wasn't you.

Renegade Mechanic

80 Euros!?! Jaysus, have you his number, OP? I might get him to do my yoke

9935452

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

12gauge dave wrote: »

An oil change and fuel filter change is not an hours labour is it surely? An independent garage rate of labour can't be 80 euro an hour or am i out of whack altogether?

IMO, you're out of whack, but it depends on location. Certainly if on the east coast of the country, I don't think €80 an hour is nuts for a independent with a good reputation.

If you break it down like, how could you operate a business like that for much less?

I mean, get the car from the carpark, position it on the lift, drain oil, remove filter, replace filter and refill; remove fuel filter, refit, bleed (possibly through diag), mandatory safety inspection, stamp book, quick spin around the block.

You'd be hard pressed to do it in less than an hour.

Agree.
A few other things to consider as well.
The car might not have been warm so he might have had to run it for a few minutes to get it up to temperature.
How long did he drain the oil for? Possibly another few minutes.
Its all time on a lift not just a mans hourly rate.
Is it 80 incl vat?
65 ish without

vectra

Different scenario I know, but I got my Mondeo 1st service last Monday in the Main dealers.
Oil
Filter
Screen wash additive
disposal charge
€190.
Oil and filters are the life of an engine.

CiniO

What I used to pay in Mayo was normally between €40 - €55 per hour labour in good indy garage.

I can't comment on OP's price, as I don't know how much labour is needed for those jobs in his car.

One might think it's an easy and quick job, but as I service my civic myself, I learnt it takes me about 3 hours to change fuel filter. Changing oil is quick though.
Obviously not being mechanic makes it longer, but I don't believe any garage would be able to change fuel filter in my car quicker than about 1.5h to 2h.

corks finest

CiniO wrote: »

What I used to pay in Mayo was normally between €40 - €55 per hour labour in good indy garage.

I can't comment on OP's price, as I don't know how much labour is needed for those jobs in his car.

One might think it's an easy and quick job, but as I service my civic myself, I learnt it takes me about 3 hours to change fuel filter. Changing oil is quick though.
Obviously not being mechanic makes it longer, but I don't believe any garage would be able to change fuel filter in my car quicker than about 1.5h to 2h.

3 hours? You must drinking some tea

Idbatterim

12gauge dave wrote: »

Hi guys about 2 weeks ago i got my 2007 diesel auris to be serviced and was charged 80 euro for

Oil+oil filter change
Fuel filter change

I thought this to be expensive as i bought all the parts myself and It is not a main dealer either.
Would you consider that expensive for labour?

ok, going forward, Id just service it myself if I were you, you will lose more time dropping it off and collecting it etc...

CiniO

corks finest wrote: »

3 hours? You must drinking some tea

Did you ever change fuel filter in 2.2 civic?
I guess you didn't as otherwise you wouldn't be surprised by 3 hours.

corks finest

CiniO wrote: »

corks finest wrote: »

3 hours? You must drinking some tea

Did you ever change fuel filter in 2.2 civic?
I guess you didn't as otherwise you wouldn't be surprised by 3 hours.

Changed a few in honda insight hybrid,easyyy

Mech1

https://www.civinfo.com/forum/engines-transmission-9g/341042-fuel-filter-change-2012-2-2-diesel.html

w211

You should be a lucky, because they accepted the owners parts. The most of places likes to sell to you their parts only. That is why I to do now everything DIY. This way I can be sure everything are made the right way. From me the workshop charged 60eur the engine oil replacement. The filter and oil was mine. The job took way too long time, 4 hours!!! Basically it is 15-20 minutes job only if oil are warm. The next time I asked quote for gearbox oil replacement and the price was even higher - 80eur with my oil. I refused, because it not too hard to open/closse only 2 plugs and pump the oil. May be the axle oil replacement price are the same, because the job took almost the same time as gearbox oil replacement.



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_Brian

The big question is, how good a mechanic is this guy and does he offer an all round service, if he’s running a good show then he’s worth it.

Where I go I’m paying a decent hourly rate for the work. But I know the guy well, he’s ana honest and straight A’s they come. Obliging too to get something done at short notice. My mam ran into bother last week and I wasn’t at work, I ran him and he popped out with a power pack and jump started her car, she drove to his garage and he checked the battery which was dead, replaced the battery and charged €10 labor on top of the battery.
That’s what I’m paying for, a full service.


Not cars but I worked in the service industry before servicing equipment out on farms, in the early 1990’s I was charging £45/hr for first hr and £25 for subsequent hrs, it was top dollar at the time but we were flat out as we provided a proper comprehensive service.

corks finest

_Brian wrote: »

The big question is, how good a mechanic is this guy and does he offer an all round service, if he’s running a good show then he’s worth it.

Where I go I’m paying a decent hourly rate for the work. But I know the guy well, he’s ana honest and straight A’s they come. Obliging too to get something done at short notice. My mam ran into bother last week and I wasn’t at work, I ran him and he popped out with a power pack and jump started her car, she drove to his garage and he checked the battery which was dead, replaced the battery and charged €10 labor on top of the battery.
That’s what I’m paying for, a full service.


Not cars but I worked in the service industry before servicing equipment out on farms, in the early 1990’s I was charging £45/hr for first hr and £25 for subsequent hrs, it was top dollar at the time but we were flat out as we provided a proper comprehensive service.

Concur,if u get s decent honest mechanic ,stick with him,he/ she won't let u down,rip u off,they know customer loyalty comes first,and vice versa

khaldrogo

12gauge dave wrote:

An oil change and fuel filter change is not an hours labour is it surely? An independent garage rate of labour can't be 80 euro an hour or am i out of whack altogether?

How long does it take you to change the oil and oil filter and fuel filter when you do it?

corks finest

khaldrogo wrote: »

12gauge dave wrote:

An oil change and fuel filter change is not an hours labour is it surely? An independent garage rate of labour can't be 80 euro an hour or am i out of whack altogether?

How long does it take you to change the oil and oil filter and fuel filter when you do it?

25 m sealey vacuum pump,easy peasy

Mech1

corks finest wrote: »

25 m sealey vacuum pump,easy peasy

And then,
wash your hands,
dispose of the old oil and filter,
wash your driveway,
wash your driveway again,
wash your hands again,

and then wonder "did i tighten that sump bung / filter"

Toyotafanboi

corks finest wrote: »

25 m sealey vacuum pump,easy peasy

If someone posted here that a garage did their oil service with a vacuum pump I think I'd have to lock the entire forum for the afternoon to let everyone cool down!

ofcork

How often are fuel filters supposed to be changed in a diesel?

PCeeeee

Mech1 wrote: »

And then,
wash your hands,
dispose of the old oil and filter,
wash your driveway,
wash your driveway again,
wash your hands again,

and then wonder "did i tighten that sump bung / filter"

In fairness though if that's the way it's not worth the hassle. I like doing it. I get a bit of satisfaction. Each to their own I suppose

kermitpwee

khaldrogo wrote: »

12gauge dave wrote:

An oil change and fuel filter change is not an hours labour is it surely? An independent garage rate of labour can't be 80 euro an hour or am i out of whack altogether?

How long does it take you to change the oil and oil filter and fuel filter when you do it?

I'm not the op but I have seen my uncle do the job in 25 minutes on a 08 Corolla d4d. Same car as an auris.
A jack, two axle stands and the proper cups that fit onto the oil filter to take it off.
He is not a mechanic but very handy.
No test drive done however in this time.

It's his wife's car.
He doesn't have to pay tax, insurance, electricity, employees etc.
He is a private individual. Time is probably irrelevant in this case😂

khaldrogo

I just find it hilarious that people see no problem with paying a plumber 125e to put a seal on a leaking tap.....

w211

Mech1 wrote: »

And then,
wash your hands,
dispose of the old oil and filter,
wash your driveway,
wash your driveway again,
wash your hands again,

and then wonder "did i tighten that sump bung / filter"

This is not so messy job as you think. The vacuum pump are good to use for older cars, where are available the oil dipstick. This is good only for DIY because it takes longer time to suck it out than traditional plug and pour. It is worth every cent, because you know exactly the job are done, the right oil are in, filter are replaced and so on. On workshop they can use any unknown quality oil (mostly dirt cheap recycled oil blend) and tell to you BS.

Audioslaven

CiniO wrote: »

What I used to pay in Mayo was normally between €40 - €55 per hour labour in good indy garage.

I can't comment on OP's price, as I don't know how much labour is needed for those jobs in his car.

One might think it's an easy and quick job, but as I service my civic myself, I learnt it takes me about 3 hours to change fuel filter. Changing oil is quick though.
Obviously not being mechanic makes it longer, but I don't believe any garage would be able to change fuel filter in my car quicker than about 1.5h to 2h.

The 9th gen is just as bad. You actually have to move the ECU to get down to the filter in the same location as your wagon. Its a terrible spot for a service item.

Wildly Boaring

Surely most places these days stick down 2hrs for a service?

If he did fuel and oil filters, I assume he also gave the car a once over. Otherwise is it even a service?

Put on ramp and went through all major components.

Would one lad service 8 cars a day?
I've no idea.

My fella charges 40 an hour plus VAT. He's good and he's very clean. And he'll drop the car home after work if I'm stuck.

corks finest

Mech1 wrote: »

corks finest wrote: »

25 m sealey vacuum pump,easy peasy

And then,
wash your hands,
dispose of the old oil and filter,
wash your driveway,
wash your driveway again,
wash your hands again,

and then wonder "did i tighten that sump bung / filter"

You still wash up,clean up what's your point

corks finest

corks finest wrote: »

Mech1 wrote: »

corks finest wrote: »

25 m sealey vacuum pump,easy peasy

And then,
wash your hands,
dispose of the old oil and filter,
wash your driveway,
wash your driveway again,
wash your hands again,

and then wonder "did i tighten that sump bung / filter"

You still wash up,clean up what's your point

I've never spilled,and my equipment is always in working order,no spillages if one udes their head,I do