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Victory for the little man - Supermacs v McDonalds

  • 15-01-2019 4:56pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭


    and Supermacs is the winner, and in being so has ended McDonalds copyright on Big Mac across EU

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/15/mcdonalds-loses-big-mac-trademark-legal-battle-supermacs
    Pat McDonagh earned the nickname Supermac as an Irish teenager after a barnstorming performance in a Gaelic football match in the late 1960s.

    The centre half-back guided his school, Carmelite college of Moate, County Westmeath, to victory over St Gerald’s, a more fancied team.

    On Tuesday, half a century later, McDonagh prevailed in a different arena when his fast-food chain, Supermac’s, won a landmark legal battle against McDonald’s over the use of trademarks.

    The Galway-based firm persuaded the European Union Intellectual Property Office (EUIPO) to cancel McDonald’s use of the “Big Mac” trademark, opening the way for Supermac to expand across Britain and continental Europe

    Obviously the UK market could be a non runner in all this as they are leaving, so they may not have the pleasure of a Supermac Big Mac.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    and Supermacs is the winner, and in being so has ended McDonalds copyright on Big Mac across EU

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/15/mcdonalds-loses-big-mac-trademark-legal-battle-supermacs



    Obviously the UK market could be a non runner in all this as they are leaving, so they may not have the pleasure of a Supermac Big Mac.

    I would not like to the their lawyer right now... losing the big mac trademark? How did they manage that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭trixi001


    How is there a supermac's in Derry if he can't open them across the UK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭w/s/p/c/


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    Who needs the Big Mac, when you've got the Big Mick !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Fair play to him, big win against a huge company.


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  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    I don't understand how McDonald's lost "Big Mac" as a trademark. They obviously use the name every day of the week, it's not like it's a legacy item.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    I hope they have not lost the trademark on Le Big Mac™ as well

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    Has the trademark of "Big Mac" by McDonalds been cancelled as the article reports, or just McDonalds opposition to the use of the Supermacs brand outside of Ireland?

    I find the article confusing... "“This is a victory for all small businesses. It prevents bigger companies from hoarding trademarks with no intention of using them.” Is someone suggesting that McDonald's does not utilise the "Big Mac" trademark?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    It's unclear but I thin k it may be the 'Mac' part
    McD objected to Supermac's outside Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭AlanG


    From past cases McDonalds had objected to the name Supermacs because it was too close to their brand based on the MAC in big mac. Its not that others can use the name big mac as such but its just that big mac is no longer so well protected as to stop anything similar being used for any burger or fast food related product. I think it come down to the difference between image rights and a trade mark. Similar to when Virgin cola brought out a can that looked very similar to Coke.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,898 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is nothing unusual for big corporate companies to try to eliminate anyone with similar names.
    McBully recently tried to stop a family run fish & chip shop in Scotland from bening called McDonalds (family name) despite the fact that the chipper looked nothing like the classic McD's resturant.

    BMW also forced a number of Car repair firms to remove the word Mini in their names, despite the fact that they specialised in repairing/restoring the old classic minis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Food is poor in Supermacs. This guy also seems to stick an advertising hoarding (mobile) in some field on approaching roads into towns.
    I don't know if he has planning or he just pays a farmer for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭Muckka


    Food is poor in Supermacs. This guy also seems to stick an advertising hoarding (mobile) in some field on approaching roads into towns.
    I don't know if he has planning or he just pays a farmer for it.

    The fish and chips are good.
    I'll give them the benifet of that doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,846 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I honestly could not care about and would not miss these two companies if they both disappeared tomorrow but fair play to Supermacs for taking on Mcdonalds. I however would not eat in either of them. I see Donald Trump eats Mcdonalds do.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Supermacs ruin shoite food.

    MacDonald's at least add a bit of flavour to their crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭DubInTheWest


    The chicken breast sandwich can be hit or miss, but when it's good it's very very good, depends on who's making it. Good win for them I'm glad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Can’t beat a snackbox with garlic sauce after a feed of pints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,433 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Supermacs are not the "little man" nor do they have anything in common with the "little man"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Food is poor in Supermacs. This guy also seems to stick an advertising hoarding (mobile) in some field on approaching roads into towns.
    I don't know if he has planning or he just pays a farmer for it.

    Have to disagree.

    I think it’s quite tempting and tasty.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    McDonalds trademarking the Snackbox, (which isn't even on their menu) was just dirty. Delighted for Culchie burger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,243 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    Supermacs are not the "little man" nor do they have anything in common with the "little man"

    I'd agree with that to the extent that in the Irish market, Supermac's are a big player. But on the international stage they'd be considered small fry in comparison to McDonald's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭tomoliver


    Have the cows commented yet?

    their the major player in all this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    tomoliver wrote: »
    Have the cows commented yet?

    their the major player in all this

    They have said they are very mooved by the ruling.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Food is poor in Supermacs. This guy also seems to stick an advertising hoarding (mobile) in some field on approaching roads into towns.
    I don't know if he has planning or he just pays a farmer for it.


    Some of the worst food I've ever had.

    Oil tastes Shiite.

    The signs in fields are on old trailers so that they get around planning laws as if they are asked to move they move it a bit and that is enough till they have to go through the process to get it moved again.

    Lots of companies using this.

    Same idea to buses on the road with advertising once they are moving/moveable it's fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Supermacs are not the "little man" nor do they have anything in common with the "little man"

    In comparison to McDonald's they are
    Supermacs annual revenue €157 million
    McDonald's annual revenue $22.8 billion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    Mike Rowe was a young Canadian guy with an interest in software

    Got a slapping by the Microsoft goons

    People using deliberate rip off names or soundalike know exactly what they're at and what will happen. Do you think youd have ever heard of him without Microsoft getting involved ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    This is nothing unusual for big corporate companies to try to eliminate anyone with similar names.
    McBully recently tried to stop a family run fish & chip shop in Scotland from bening called McDonalds (family name) despite the fact that the chipper looked nothing like the classic McD's resturant.

    BMW also forced a number of Car repair firms to remove the word Mini in their names, despite the fact that they specialised in repairing/restoring the old classic minis.

    To be fair they have to protect their trademark. And giving in once causes a precedent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,814 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    tomoliver wrote: »
    Have the cows commented yet?

    their the major player in all this

    'Steakholders' you could say...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,814 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    There's a lad with takeaways in co cork and limerick called McDonal's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    SuperMacs for me is far better and cheaper than McDonalds, both are shiite unhealthy food but SuperMac's seem to have real chips and a bevy of attractive Brazilian workers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Food is poor in Supermacs. This guy also seems to stick an advertising hoarding (mobile) in some field on approaching roads into towns.
    I don't know if he has planning or he just pays a farmer for it.
    Burgers are decent. They never give you enough chips though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Allinall wrote: »
    Have to disagree.

    I think it’s quite tempting and tasty.


    Exactly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    On a similar note didn't O'Neills sportswear win a case against Adidas once?



    A Passing off offence on the three stripe design.


    Hard to believe Adidas lost that tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭tomoliver


    elperello wrote: »
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    Exactly.

    confirms the ads work anyhow


    "tempting and tasy food at supermacs"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    tomoliver wrote: »
    confirms the ads work anyhow


    "tempting and tasy food at supermacs"

    Always be suspicious when you hear an ex-schoolteacher (P McDonough) extolling the virtues of his "chicken breast sangwidge"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Most of the menu is dreadful

    And then you get to

    Curry and coleslaw chips.

    Stuff of gastric nightmares


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Wow, it's like David versus Goliath, only this time... David won!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    Supermacs is the business.

    Nothing better at 2:30am than a Mighty Mac, garlic chips, onion rings and a milkshake if you’re lucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭LillySV


    Good work, delighted for him to win against the big American bullies


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭tomoliver


    ronald mcdonald wont be happy

    he's half irish too or scottish or something


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Wow, it's like David versus Goliath, only this time... David won!

    Am I missing the joke here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    you mean victory for a company that pays all it's employees minimum wage, has anyone not management on zero hour contracts, deducts money from their employees for their uniform, staff meal, and makes them clock out for not only lunch breaks but bathroom breaks and smoke breaks and oh yeah, most of em put every sandwich/meal up by 1 euro, ostensibly to cover the VAT and min wage rises that came in this year, but they put the prices up start of December so they would get a pile of extra cash during the Christmas period when people are splashing out.

    if you think they're some plucky underdog who isn't just as rotten as McD's...


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    Spermacs is okay in fairness, but the price is what keeps me away. Mcdonalds have the eurosaver as well as the happy meal and regular meal combo for €8 which is very reasonable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭tomoliver


    delly wrote: »
    Spermacs is okay in fairness, but the price is what keeps me away. Mcdonalds have the eurosaver as well as the happy meal and regular meal combo for €8 which is very reasonable.

    the eurosaver is good in fairness


    double cheeseburger and curly fries cheap


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Humphrey BoaGart


    Copyright Expired.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,898 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    ''My buns have no seeds''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    kneemos wrote: »
    Supermacs ruin shoite food.

    MacDonald's at least add a bit of flavour to their crap.

    Supermacs is a good bit more expensive too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Burgers are decent. They never give you enough chips though.

    I got Supermacs burgers a couple of times and they always repeat on me.

    I went to the McDs drive tru recently and got one of their selected burgers - really good but you pay for it. The chips are poor, too thin for me and drowned in salt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    delly wrote: »
    Spermacs is okay in fairness, but the price is what keeps me away. Mcdonalds have the eurosaver as well as the happy meal and regular meal combo for €8 which is very reasonable.

    In fairness, as you say, if you are caught out with no other option for a bit of fodder then maybe.

    In the real world you can put up a nice tasty meal for four for €8.


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