Starbucks in Tallaght Hospital

Sir Oxman

Omackeral wrote: »

Yours are especially sh*te and mundane though. People need to know. Some examples;

"Being woken up by the birds"

"People wearing glasses that don't suit them"

"Should people who have colds wear masks?"

Love it

Andy From Sligo

i'd like to explore this 'no-one is forcing you to use it' - if the other eating establishments are closed (say like the volunteer cafe or whatever it is) and the only thing open to you is the Starbucks one then you have no choice if you are dying for a cuppa and a bite to eat ... well yes you could bring your own food in say a flask and a tupperware container , but I would hardly see any place up there allowing you to get out your sarnies and eat them in the cafe where they already sell food ... that is the norm normally.

So, options are find the vending machine and see if its working or walk outside the hospital across the road and eat there . - I personally will be trying to avoid the restaurant next time i am up there if i can but that's just me , i am just glad i have been fore-warned by some people who said it was not only expensive but cr@p quality food and quality.

Its not my job to tell people where to eat and who to avoid or what to do with their lives - I am as usual just sharing my findings and giving just my point of view. Just seems some people are getting their knickers in a twist over it so much that I dunno why I bothered contributing (listens to cries of 'no, we dont know why you bothered as well Andy" )

fussyonion

Andy, you must have very little to worry about if you're so passionate about this.

Dalomanakora

But Andy you want Starbucks gone from the hospital. That'd mean after 3pm, people have NO options at all if they're hungry or want coffee.

SteM

So what are your requirements Andy? You mentioned earlier an independent coffee shop but any vendor that opens in a place like a hospital will have a high rental cost leading to high prices.

Honestly, if you're in the car then the square is 2 minutes drive away and has a choice of places to eat and drink (including a starbucks) so just go there.

Andy From Sligo

fussyonion wrote: »

Andy, you must have very little to worry about if you're so passionate about this.

no, please peeps try and get the terminology right ... I am not worried about it ! -- not even passionate about it either. - I am just discussing that I think the likes of these type of coffee places should be confined to shopping centres, retail parks for when people go out for a days shopping. I personally still do not think they are places for hospitals .. but if others think they are suitable , then fair enough. Be stupid if we all had the same views about everything.

donkeykong5

Dalomanakora wrote: »

But Andy you want Starbucks gone from the hospital. That'd mean after 3pm, people have NO options at all if they're hungry or want coffee.

Shop there sells coffee until they close at 10pm.

Andy From Sligo

Dalomanakora wrote: »

But Andy you want Starbucks gone from the hospital. That'd mean after 3pm, people have NO options at all if they're hungry or want coffee.

nope - if you read a few posts up I said maybe they could have put the tender out to an independent / cheaper non chain coffee shop business

Sometimes I do get the impression people hear what they only want to hear .. or just read something and make up their own version

GalwayGrrrrrl

I feel like Andy is getting a hard time here. Although I think it’s nice to have a selection of eating/drinking outlets in a hospital, the arrival of Starbucks and similar brands does feel only a small step away from adverts on hospital trolleys and operations sponsored by McDs.

SteM

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

nope - if you read a few posts up I said maybe they could have put the tender out to an independent / cheaper non chain coffee shop business

They put the location up for tender, are you saying it should only be up for tender to non-chains? Why do you think that would make things cheaper? Generally things are dearer in independent shops, don't see why a coffee shop would be different?

Andy From Sligo

GalwayGrrrrrl wrote: »

I feel like Andy is getting a hard time here. Although I think it’s nice to have a selection of eating/drinking outlets in a hospital, the arrival of Starbucks and similar brands does feel only a small step away from adverts on hospital trolleys and operations sponsored by McDs.

Thanks I never thought of it that way but now you say it yes it does.

It's like I can understand it's lucrative for the hospital themselves because how much money they are making (I think someone a few posts up said that the hospital are taking a percentage of all takings not just profit) and I understand hospitals these days are running like businesses (even no private HSE ones) with all their management and the like but it still seems to me a bit uncomfortable that maybe this is the way they are going.

I suppose some will say they (the hospital) chose this establishment over other tenders because it would be good for staff and patients and patients visitors to have a decent well known coffee shop (or shop that sells well known coffee)but I suspect in the end with my cynical hat on I would go for they have done it for money. After all if you enlist a shop with premium prices for products sold and the hospital are taking a percentage of all sales then the hospital gains with a higher percentage and will stand to make more money from them...

Andy From Sligo

SteM wrote: »

They put the location up for tender, are you saying it should only be up for tender to non-chains? Why do you think that would make things cheaper? Generally things are dearer in independent shops, don't see why a coffee shop would be different?

Must admit I don't go drinking in Starbucks so I don't know how much a cup (bucket) of coffee costs from them . I am only logically thinking if someone is not chained to a franchise they can choose whatever coffee (coffee beans) they use and it would be cheaper no? Same with sandwiches and the like, they could choose to buy sandwiches and the like cheaper?

SteM

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Must admit I don't go drinking in Starbucks so I don't know how much a cup (bucket) of coffee costs from them . I am only logically thinking if someone is not chained to a franchise they can choose whatever coffee (coffee beans) they use and it would be cheaper no? Same with sandwiches and the like, they could choose to buy sandwiches and the like cheaper?

They still have to pay the same rent, wages and vat that a chain would. If they're independent then I would imagine their purchasing power would not be great.

Andy From Sligo

SteM wrote: »

They still have to pay the same rent, wages and vat that a chain would. If they're independent then I would imagine their purchasing power would not be great.

there is that i suppose , never thought of that angle -

Reputable Rog

I've always found the idea of eating in a hospital a bit off putting.

Andy From Sligo

Reputable Rog wrote: »

I've always found the idea of eating in a hospital a bit off putting.

yep true that in a way , the worry of visiting someone who's ill, will they be OK - you loose your appetite through worry , you might fancy a sweet cup of tea for the shock - not a big meal.

then there are the plethora of germs going around ....

Then the smell of ... er .... Hospitals (what is that smell? - cross between bleach / sick / poo /urine /death is it? )

... and sick people

yeah its not like "ooh I am flagging with all this shopping lets go Costa" .. more like "what dya want?" - "ah just a cup of tea and a biscuit, I cant stomach anything else"

retro:electro

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

then there are the plethora of germs going around

Prob from all those fairy cakes people are spluttering over at home

Andy From Sligo

retro:electro wrote: »

Prob from all those fairy cakes people are spluttering over at home

you seem to have a bit of un-healthy obsession with fairy cakes ... have you seen someone about that?

I think Tallaght Hospital have a phsyc department there .. you can maybe go for a starbucks afterwards? ...

retro:electro

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

you seem to have a bit of un-healthy obsession with fairy cakes ... have you seen someone about that?

I think Tallaght Hospital have a phsyc department there .. you can maybe go for a starbucks afterwards? ...

It’s a burns unit I’ll need to see after that scalding hot attack Andrew

Archeron

Reputable Rog wrote: »

I've always found the idea of eating in a hospital a bit off putting.

The first piece of toast after coming round from anaesthetic is the nicest food on earth.

pleas advice

Reputable Rog wrote: »

I've always found the idea of eating in a hospital a bit off putting.

Did you ever notice it's usually sick people who end up in hospitals?

Marcusm

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Is there really a Starbucks or starbucks like coffee shop in Tallaght Hospital???

do me a favour!

you go to them type bloody places when your out on a day out shopping and you are used to paying out for food/drink but not when your visiting patients in a bleeding hospital for gods sakes.

yep I understand the other cafe is a volunteer run one and that it closes about 3 or 4pm and fair enough there most probably was a need for a commercial cafe so it could open later ... but are you saying a non-chain (which some would say have high rip-off charges) cafe with reasonable prices couldn't have run it instead?

So along with high price for parking and now a high priced place for a bite to eat in the hospital out of the volunteer run cafe I presume it costs ye an arm and a leg now to go visit someone in Tallaght Hospital these days? - mind you if you come over feeling ill after paying 15euro for a sandwich and a coffee at least your in the right place!

Guy’s Hospital in London has had an on-site McDonald’s for decades.

Andy From Sligo

Marcusm wrote: »

Guy’s Hospital in London has had an on-site McDonald’s for decades.

just because that's silly idea it dont make it right