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Non shed family dog

  • 01-01-2019 08:21PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24


    Can anyone suggest a small non shed dog that would be a good family pet? The dog would need to be ok on their own for up to four hours a day some days due to work commitments and ok with kids (8 years plus).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,973 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Lhasa Apso :)

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    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭VonVix


    Reasons for choosing a non-shed breed? The reason why I ask, is that non-shed breeds require regular trips to the groomer, which is a 50 euro (give or take, depending on condition of the dog's coat) cost every 2-3 months, is this a cost you have considered? If this isn't done, they can become matted and in turn become cranky because of discomfort, which is not ideal if you have kids.

    [Dog Training + Behaviour Nerd]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭MissShihTzu


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    A Shih Tzu of course! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 AlBren


    What about a bichon frise?
    Our dog is a 6 year old bichon frise, she's a lovely sweet little thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭MissShihTzu


    Shih Tzu and Lhasa are great with kids, but not so great at being left alone. They are essentially companion dogs. And yes, they do require daily brushing and a trip to the groomer's every six weeks. I groom and clip my Shih Tzu myself which saves on the groomer's bills.

    A decent clip will be about E50. Plus you will need brushes, combs and knot breakers for the coat.

    Have you considered getting a dog walker or doggy day care for when the dog will be alone? Even a neighbour popping by for a few minutes to let the dog out for potty time and a bit of company would be good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,973 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Shih Tzu and Lhasa are great with kids, but not so great at being left alone.

    Yea, never thought of that because I usually have at least 2

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭MissShihTzu


    I have just the one Shih Tzu. But would consider getting two pups when the time comes as they would be great company for each other. My neighbour lost her Bichon last year and now has two puppies. She says they make all the difference as she doesn't worry about leaving them alone.

    Mine has lots of doggy company and he goes to a day care since I went back to work. He absolutely adores it and meets his dog friends there. Win, win as we can work and not worry about the dog, and he gets company, hugs and playmates on demand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    Would you get a medium sized dog?

    We have a Yorkie & a staffy. Although I love both dogs the Staffordshire bull terrier breed is the best dog I’ve ever come into contact with. He’s incredible with children & other dogs when we’re out on walks. The yorkie is the total opposite.

    What ever dog you opt for make sure you socialise it from a young age. Doggy day care is brilliant.

    Research the breed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 dave699


    AlBren wrote: »
    What about a bichon frise?
    Our dog is a 6 year old bichon frise, she's a lovely sweet little thing.

    Second the bichon. Very happy dog. Ok when left on its own for a few hours aswell. 10 yrs old and never an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    AlBren wrote: »
    What about a bichon frise?
    Our dog is a 6 year old bichon frise, she's a lovely sweet little thing.

    Same here. Tiny little 6 year old. Fantastic dog. Good guard dog. Can bring him anywhere. Cute as a button. Hates magpies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Neames


    I'll also recommend the bichon frise. We have one for the last 3 years.

    Good with kids, very friendly. A couple of short walks a day and he's happy. My wife and I work different different hours, but he's no problem being left alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 dave699


    Yes the gaurd dog side of them is unreal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Guerngirl


    Neames wrote: »
    I'll also recommend the bichon frise. We have one for the last 3 years.

    Good with kids, very friendly. A couple of short walks a day and he's happy. My wife and I work different different hours, but he's no problem being left alone.

    Thanks to everyone who posted, this is very helpful to a complete novice when it comes to dogs! I’ll do some more research, much appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭em_cat


    TBH any and all dog breeds have the potential to be great with children. It all depends on a lot of things.

    Our lad loves children and isn’t crazy about other dogs, but is great with them if certain conditions are met.

    I grew up with Rough Collies and Shelties, have had a Retriever, 2 Staffies, a Shih tzu, Havanease, Bichon and now a Yorkie x.

    Puppies take a lot of work, non shed take a lot of grooming, tend to suffer from allergies that can be difficult & expensive to diagnose.

    Also, Lhasa Apso is a relative rare breed in ROI and the only ones I know that are bred reputable go for €1200+ a pup with a long waiting list.

    Low sheds are some of the most over bred and puppy farmed breeds in ROI and that no breed is guaranteed to be hypoallergenic.

    I would say rock up to one of the bigger rescues in a month & see what they have and let the dog choose you & your family. You could be surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Same here. Tiny little 6 year old. Fantastic dog. Good guard dog. Can bring him anywhere. Cute as a button. Hates magpies.


    Made me chuckle. I hate magpies and taught my dog to " see 'em off!" at the first sound ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Guerngirl


    Guerngirl wrote: »
    Thanks to everyone who posted, this is very helpful to a complete novice when it comes to dogs! I’ll do some more research, much appreciated.

    What about yorkie Bichon mix dogs? Do they generally shed or not? Hard to tell from googling as sites seem to contradict each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭em_cat


    Guerngirl wrote: »
    What about yorkie Bichon mix dogs? Do they generally shed or not? Hard to tell from googling as sites seem to contradict each other.

    You can never be guaranteed of the shedding, especially with crosses as it is entirely dependant on parentage genetics.

    A good resource for finding out if a breed is considered to be high shedding or not is to look at the IKC breed section, it gives a fairly good breakdown of stats per breed.

    From memory Bichon Frise, Poodle, Maltese, Shih Tzu, Havanease, Lhasa’s are all very low shed, but not 100%. It will depend on the lineage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Bunnyslippers


    I’d rescue one!
    But if you want to buy then do a lot of research when looking for breeders and breeds. Some of these small squash faced dogs have a lot of issues due to their deformities like eye and breathing issues as well as luxating patellas.
    Bichons are great but can be very yappy, I’d reccomend a jack russel for a great dog for older kids as they have endless energy and love people, just make sure whatever dog you get is well socialised, well trained and well walked to avoid behavioural issues, short haired dogs don’t need much coat maintenance so are great, they do shed but no more than any other dog, also most people seem to be allergic to the dead skin rather than the fur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭granturismo


    How about a whippet or small lurcher?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Choc Chip


    Are you looking for non/low shed to reduce hair in the house, on your clothes, or for allergy reasons?

    I have a purportedly non-shed breed of terrier. I hand-strip him and brish out his undercoat - there's definitely far less hair on my hard wood floors from him than my GSDx or even lurchers, but if you give him a cuddle while wearing a fleecy top (or my husband's wool coat), you'll have hair on you. And my parents have a dark-coloured rug that he likes to roll around on and ends up COVERED in little light-coloured hairs. He's also the dog that brings me out in an allergic reaction if my immune system's a bit low (no idea why).

    Conversely, my GSDx seems to leave half her bodyweight in hair on our floors, but I can get down on the floor for a good rub and a hug and her hair doesn't really stick to me... it ends up everywhere, including a hair in 2 cups of coffee yesterday, but doesn't stick to clothes. I also have absolutely no allergy problems with her.

    I'd meet the breed of dog (or the actual dog if you're considering rescue) and speak to people who own that breed. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭Bigdig69


    I'd vote bichon too.

    Ours is 8. Ok left on his own, but two dogs often works well. But do keep in mind cost of dog ownership. Food, vet etc can mount up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Choc Chip


    I forgot to say - what do you want to do with your dog?

    Are you interested in training, do you want to go on long walks/ runs/ cycles, or are you looking for mainly a companion with a couple of short walks every day? Are you looking for a dog that listens well and is trainable, does neediness bother you, do you want your dog to be more independent? How about busyiness vs lazing around on the couch? Would a lot of barking be an issue or do you live rurally and would prefer a dog that alerted you when someone arrived?

    I'm guessing that shedding and kid-friendliness are the 2 most important things to you since they're the items you mentioned first, but I'd be considering all of the above before making a final decision. I don't know much about toy breeds, but if you flesh out what you're looking for I'm sure people will be able to recommend a dog that ticks all those boxes. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭Latatian


    Shedding can vary a lot even within breed- if shedding and being good with kids are necessary then a pup is a bad idea. Too much of a crapshoot genetics-wise, too much change of something going wrong if yiu're a novice. An adult would be better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭honeybear


    I have a beautiful Maltese and she never sheds. She is as cute as a button but I ruined her as she was reared. She loves kids but can be over protective of them (& me) sometimes. I totally blame myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    We got a Shih Tzu 2 months ago and we're besotted with her. So friendly and adorable - would highly recommend the breed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭RubyK


    We have 2 cockapoos who are fabulous happy dogs, who do not shed, but that's just a bonus, not a requirement for us :-)

    We also had a Kerry Blue, who also didn't shed. She was very loving but very protective of us and our home (super guard dog).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    I'd recommend a shih tzu or a bichon and not a lhasa. I've had two shih tzus and in my experience, they are friendly, easy-going (to a point - no annoying little kids! ) and don't need a huge amount of exercise. Never had a bichon but I've interacted with loads and they seem to be friendly, outgoing, very solid little dogs.

    I've only had one lhasa, and he's a rescue so that might affect how he is but he's... different. I love him dearly, he's a very loving, sweet, funny dog but he's also very anxiety-prone, unhappy about changes to routine or new things. Strangers in the house worry him, and he holds on to grudges like you wouldn't believe. I got talking to another lhasa owner once and she literally asked me 'is your dog weird?' - when she described ways her own dog was peculiar, she could have talking about my own pup :)

    Both shih tzus and bichons need to be groomed regularly - either bring them to the groomers or commit to brushing pretty much every day, starting from puppyhood to get them used to it. Matts develop really easily and are a nightmare to get out if they get any way developed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭mvl


    We got a maltese - shih tzu for our daughter, our first dog.
    Afriend in work recommended this type as no-shed = good for allergy sufferers. Agree, this comes with other "grooming" obligations.
    - usually someone is at home, but she handles well being left alone half days.
    I think getting her was the best thing we did for our family last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭crustybread


    mvl wrote: »
    We got a maltese - shih tzu for our daughter, our first dog.
    Afriend in work recommended this type as no-shed = good for allergy sufferers. Agree, this comes with other "grooming" obligations.
    - usually someone is at home, but she handles well being left alone half days.
    I think getting her was the best thing we did for our family last year.

    Could you pm me details of where you got the dog? I am interested in similar breed but am so confused about where to get one. you hear so many horror stories of puppy farms and problems its nearly putting me off. We have been to several pounds but as we are novice owners they did not recommend taking an older dog.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭em_cat


    Could you pm me details of where you got the dog? I am interested in similar breed but am so confused about where to get one. you hear so many horror stories of puppy farms and problems its nearly putting me off. We have been to several pounds but as we are novice owners they did not recommend taking an older dog.

    Please do not look for Maltese/ Shih Tzu cross, Bichon/ Maltese cross, Maltese Poodle cross as these are designer breed dogs all of which are bred for greed, often at the expense of the dogs, especially the dams.

    All toy group breeds, KC recognised, not greeder FB DD internet made up breeds, the potential to be wonderful family pets, provided they receive adequate training, your children are taught how to respect the puppy, ie no teasing, chasing, tail, ear pulling etc.

    This is not a pop at you, it’s pretty common that a lot of people don’t train the pup or the kids & then they get rid or have the pup euthanised.


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