When can I apply for Emergency tax back from 2018?

the whole year inn

I paid about 3 months of Emergency tax last year from June- August. When can I apply for the tax back ?

goldenhoarde

the whole year inn wrote: »

I paid about 3 months of Emergency tax last year from June- August. When can I apply for the tax back ?

Once you get issued your P60 you can request a P 21

the whole year inn

goldenhoarde wrote: »

Once you get issued your P60 you can request a P 21

When are the P60 issued. I am working as a contractor and contract is going for a few more months but would like to get the money . Can I request the P60 or is it issued in January.
Thanks for the fast reply.

goldenhoarde

the whole year inn wrote: »

When are the P60 issued. I am working as a contractor and contract is going for a few more months but would like to get the money . Can I request the P60 or is it issued in January.
Thanks for the fast reply.

Think I got mine early February but it's more up to the company ( there is a deadline imposed by revenue to have them issued). If you are contracting through an umbrella company or your accountant you might get it sooner if you ask them, if it's a contract position in the company it will be when they Do it. Dept of education for example don't get it done till march.

On the plus side the refund process is super fast online less than a week from start to money in your account

the whole year inn

goldenhoarde wrote: »

Think I got mine early February but it's more up to the company. If you are contracting through an umbrella company or your accountant you might get it sooner if you ask them, if it's a contract position in the company it will be when they Do it. Dept of education for example don't get it done till march.

On the plus side the refund process is super fast online less than a week from start to money in your account

Yea there is payroll that handles it but want to get a jump on it .
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/pay_and_employment/no_p45_no_p60.html#startcontent

Do you know anything about this?

the whole year inn

the whole year inn wrote: »

Yea there is payroll that handles it but want to get a jump on it .
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/pay_and_employment/no_p45_no_p60.html#startcontent

Do you know anything about this?

Does anyone know have any information on this new system coming in.Can I apply for tax back in January.

CosmicFool

Is this your first job?

If it's not all you need to do is ring Revenue and they'll sort out your tax credits for you and inform your employer and you'll get the tax back in your next pay.

diceyreilly

You can apply anytime you like. Call revenue

TheChizler

Any time I got caught for emergency tax due to payroll being slow to process my credits they just paid it back over the subsequent months without me having to contact Revenue at all, did they not give you that option?

the whole year inn

CosmicFool wrote: »

Is this your first job?

Far from it. I am contracting now since June and wasn't working before that in 2018 . I have an umbrella company since Auguest but have about 3 months of Emergency tax paid so would like to get that back .

Avatar MIA

the whole year inn wrote: »

Far from it. I am contracting now since June and wasn't working before that in 2018 . I have an umbrella company since Auguest but have about 3 months of Emergency tax paid so would like to get that back .

If you are registered employed through a company that company will also need to submit your P60 (last year this will be necessary).

CosmicFool

the whole year inn wrote: »

Far from it. I am contracting now since June and wasn't working before that in 2018 . I have an umbrella company since Auguest but have about 3 months of Emergency tax paid so would like to get that back .

All you need to do is ring Revenue and they'll apply your tax credits to your current job and they'll inform your employer and you'll get it all back in the next pay

the whole year inn

TheChizler wrote: »

Any time I got caught for emergency tax due to payroll being slow to process my credits they just paid it back over the subsequent months without me having to contact Revenue at all, did they not give you that option?

I rang them revenue twice this year trying to get it paid but it was never paid or sorted out. My payroll said revenue wouldn't pay it untill next year and I'm trying to get it paid as soon as possible.

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CosmicFool wrote: »

All you need to do is ring Revenue and they'll apply your tax credits to your current job and they'll inform your employer and you'll get it all back in the next pay

Not this time of year. Although the OP should have got the benefit already if he passed his P45 to the umbrella company unless he was put on a Week 1 basis.

igCorcaigh

Log into revenue online in the new year, there should be an option for Form 21 then.

the whole year inn

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Not this time of year. Although the OP should have got the benefit already if he passed his P45 to the umbrella company unless he was put on a Week 1 basis.

Not sure what week 1 basis means but I gave my P45 for my new job.
If I ring revenue now will they be able to get my back tax for my next payroll which is on the 7th?

Ninthlife

CosmicFool wrote: »

All you need to do is ring Revenue and they'll apply your tax credits to your current job and they'll inform your employer and you'll get it all back in the next pay

Payroll wont refund emergency tax from a previous year.

If you are registered for MyAccount complete an eform 12 using your P60 or week 52 payslip as this will generate a P21 and any refund due will issue automatically.

Dont ring as youll be told to use the online service

yabadabado

Do you know what tax credits and basis you are on ?cumulative or week one?

I'd very much doubt any payroll will sort out issues for it to run on 7th Jan.

the whole year inn

Ninthlife wrote: »

Payroll wont refund emergency tax from a previous year.

If you are registered for MyAccount complete an eform 12 using your P60 or week 52 payslip as this will generate a P21 and any refund due will issue automatically.

Dont ring as youll be told to use the online service

Yea I have an account with ros.ie . I will go ahead with this .Thanks for all the replies.

Ninthlife

the whole year inn wrote: »

Yea I have an account with ros.ie . I will go ahead with this .Thanks for all the replies.

If youre registered for Income Tax Self Assessment you wont be able to get a P21. Youll have to file a Form 11 for 2018

TheChizler

the whole year inn wrote: »

I rang them revenue twice this year trying to get it paid but it was never paid or sorted out. My payroll said revenue wouldn't pay it untill next year and I'm trying to get it paid as soon as possible.

From what you say it looks like your employer changed from them to the umbrella company before they could adjust based on your corrected credits, so they had no way of correcting your tax directly. If you had stayed under direct employment they could have credited the amount you overpaid against future PAYE.

Hope you get sorted soon.

igCorcaigh

Form 21, end of year statement, should now be available to you in your online revenue account OP.

igCorcaigh

My income and tax fields are all empty for 2018

Too early?

Avatar MIA

igCorcaigh wrote: »

My income and tax fields are all empty for 2018

Too early?

Yes, they'll stay empty until your P60 has been submitted to Revenue by your employer. This could take until february.

igCorcaigh

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Yes, they'll stay empty until your P60 has been submitted to Revenue by your employer. This could take until february.

Thanks. I'm out of work and submitting illness benefit. Can I request a P60?

Avatar MIA

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Thanks. I'm out of work and submitting illness benefit. Can I request a P60?

Sorry, I used the wrong term, it should be a P35 that the employer issues. They have until around 21st of February to file.

the whole year inn

On ros now and I see the submit button for the End of year statement P21 but when I press it I get "We cannot process your request as you were registered for Income tax during 2018"

In form 12 it's status is available but when I press submit I get the same error.
Any idea what I should do?

Avatar MIA

the whole year inn wrote: »

On ros now and I see the submit button for the End of year statement P21 but when I press it I get "We cannot process your request as you were registered for Income tax during 2018"

In form 12 it's status is available but when I press submit I get the same error.
Any idea what I should do?

What was your status with the umbrella company?

the whole year inn

Avatar MIA wrote: »

What was your status with the umbrella company?

Proprietary Director.

Avatar MIA

the whole year inn wrote: »

Proprietary Director.

That's your issue.

You'll need to file a form 11 or form 12 return depending how much you were paid by that company.

I think they'll need to file their company accounts first. They have approx. 9 months from the end of their financial year. That's my understanding, but you might want to ring Revenue to confirm though.

ismat

the whole year inn wrote: »

Proprietary Director.

If it is your company then it is up to you to file the p35. You can do this now. This will update revenue records and enable you to claim any overpaid paye

Avatar MIA

ismat wrote: »

If it is your company then it is up to you to file the p35. You can do this now. This will update revenue records and enable you to claim any overpaid paye

It's an umbrella company and he may have little actual control, but strange he's a proprietary director in that instance.

the whole year inn

ismat wrote: »

If it is your company then it is up to you to file the p35. You can do this now. This will update revenue records and enable you to claim any overpaid paye

I do have to file taxes but not untill March . Where on the site can I file p35?

nim1bdeh38l2cw

Avatar MIA wrote: »

It's an umbrella company and he may have little actual control, but strange he's a proprietary director in that instance.

Umbrella Company directors are normally proprietary due to PRSI

ismat

the whole year inn wrote: »

I do have to file taxes but not untill March . Where on the site can I file p35?

You would have to file your p35 by the middle of February. Do you prepare your own wages using payroll software? If so create the p35 file within the software ard load it via the company’s ros

ismat

Avatar MIA wrote: »

It's an umbrella company and he may have little actual control, but strange he's a proprietary director in that instance.

I assume as he is a proprietary director that he is contracting through his own company rather than through a third party company. He would not be a proprietary director otherwise

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ismat wrote: »

I assume as he is a proprietary director that he is contracting through his own company rather than through a third party company. He would not be a proprietary director otherwise

Some companies wont deal with non companies such as partnerships or Joe Bloggs & Son and sometimes the self employed will invoice through an Umbrella company. Re the proprietary director status - still confused on that as he'd need 15% ownership to be a PD, which doesn't make sense for an organisation offering Umbrella company services.

ismat

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Some companies wont deal with non companies such as partnerships or Joe Bloggs & Son and sometimes the self employed will invoice through an Umbrella company. Re the proprietary director status - still confused on that as he'd need 15% ownership to be a PD, which doesn't make sense for an organisation offering Umbrella company services.

I understand how the umbrella company works. If he is using this structure and they have not sorted out his tax during the year then it would not appear to be working correctly At all.

This combined with the fact he states that he is a proprietary director would lead me to believe he has his own company set up

Avatar MIA

ismat wrote: »

I understand how the umbrella company works. If he is using this structure and they have not sorted out his tax during the year then it would not appear to be working correctly At all.

This combined with the fact he states that he is a proprietary director would lead me to believe he has his own company set up

Actually, my fault. I thought the OP said he was working through an Umbrella company, but it was someone else.

OP, did you set up a limited company for this job?

nim1bdeh38l2cw

ismat wrote: »

I understand how the umbrella company works. If he is using this structure and they have not sorted out his tax during the year then it would not appear to be working correctly At all.

If Revenue put them on a week 1 basis, then that could explain it. The problem could have been sorted months ago by asking Revenue to move them to cumulative.

ismat wrote: »

This combined with the fact he states that he is a proprietary director would lead me to believe he has his own company set up

I'm a contractor, working through an umbrella company and i'm a proprietary director.

the whole year inn

So I finally got my P60 , do I need to contact ROS now and submit the P60 for tax refund?