Strokestown **Mod Note in Post #4461**

markodaly

Lefty Bicek wrote: »

Doesn't stop you doing it on here.

I am not calling him a Loyalist or a member of the UDA. I do not know the guy so I won't call him anything.

cameramonkey

bubblypop wrote: »

Well, I can't see into the future, but like I already said, I have never seen any issues with repossessed properties that have been bought by others.

Now, I don't know what this unlawful farmer may be capable of.... As I said I can't see into the future

I know of a least one case where a man was murdered over land that was in dispute was sold . The new owner was shot dead when he walked onto the farm. There was no bank involved but the new owner was warned against buying the land but didn't listen.

cameramonkey

cameramonkey wrote: »

I know of a least one case where a man was murdered over land that was in dispute was sold . The new owner was shot dead when he walked onto the farm. There was no bank involved but the new owner was warned against buying the land but didn't listen.

And what do you think of that?

cameramonkey

cameramonkey wrote: »

The guy was making a point when he said he was British, it wasn't a casual remark. You know that, he was saying I am different from you, I am not Irish.
He has every right to say what he wants and he understood what we was saying but maybe he didn't expect the reaction.

Well I don't disagree with you there.

Lefty Bicek

markodaly wrote: »

I am not calling him a Loyalist or a member of the UDA. I do not know the guy so I won't call him anything.

You don't know the person 'on here' that you are calling a racist.

Double standard, and wantonly bringing a totally unnecessary skin-colour parallel into it. Bad, bad form.

Sycamore Tree

So much anger before Xmas

nullzero

nullzero wrote: »

Should I be labeled a bigot and a racist as a result of saying what I said?

I don't think you should, no. It's more so a case of semantics tbh I think.

cameramonkey

bubblypop wrote: »

And what do you think of that?

what do I think of what?

cameramonkey

cameramonkey wrote: »

what do I think of what?

The story you posted, what's your opinion about that case?

cameramonkey

bubblypop wrote: »

The story you posted, what's your opinion about that case?

what part of the case? its multifaceted.

Spanish Eyes

Jaysis rural Ireland wants the broadband, the local hospitals, the roads, the post offices, the works.

But when a local is taking the P on the taxpayer, they support them to the hilt. Mad Ted.

Explain.

nullzero

Omackeral wrote: »

I know. Listen, I've no beef with you. I don't think you're a bigot or a racist. I agree that most British people up North probably lean towards loyalism or identify as Protestants but I'm making the point that it's not cast in stone all of the time.

I'm not casting any stones. Until today I never considered loyalist to be a term of abuse.
I just wanted to ask you your opinion on what I would class as libelous comments being made by a person I was broadly agreeing with in the beginning when I quoted his post.

cameramonkey

cameramonkey wrote: »

what part of the case? its multifaceted.

All of it. A man got murdered because he bought some land, when he was told not to.
What do you think of that? What's your opinion?

pablo128

cameramonkey wrote: »

what part of the case? its multifaceted.

You did the same earlier with me, letting on you didn't know what I was talking about. And now you're at it again.

cameramonkey

pablo128 wrote: »

You did the same earlier with me, letting on you didn't know what I was talking about. And now you're at it again.

when was that?

nullzero

markodaly wrote: »

I am calling you a bigot and racist because you used an accent and identity to determine someone is 'clearly' a loyalist i.e. a member of a paramilitary outfit.

Unless you actually know who the person is, then making such judgments based on the criteria above makes you a bigot and racist.

This is completely libelous. I implore you to give evidence to support the claims you have made.

end of the road

markodaly wrote: »

I am calling you a bigot and racist because you used an accent and identity to determine someone is 'clearly' a loyalist i.e. a member of a paramilitary outfit.

Unless you actually know who the person is, then making such judgments based on the criteria above makes you a bigot and racist.

being a loyalist does not automatically equal being part of a paramilitary outfit. therefore you should withdraw your shameful allegation of bigotry and racism toards the poster.

simongurnick

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Jaysis rural Ireland wants the broadband, the local hospitals, the roads, the post offices, the works.

But when a local is taking the P on the taxpayer, they support them to the hilt. Mad Ted.

Explain.

When heavies intimidate people our of their homes the locals don't take it lightly.

pablo128

cameramonkey wrote: »

You said that in posts 94 and 105 that there might be an arson attack by locals.Where in these two post does the poster suggests that locals may burn the house? Could you please point it out.

post 94 "I wouldn't be surprised if there was a case of arson after the 'sold' sign went up."

post 105 "I didn't know they were fireproof. You think it wouldn't happen again? I couldn't think of a more negative sales pitch than what's just happened. Unless maybe discovering something like anthrax on the land......"

cameramonkey wrote: »

when was that?

Here you go.

cameramonkey

bubblypop wrote: »

All of it. A man got murdered because he bought some land, when he was told not to.
What do you think of that? What's your opinion?

the case has a lot more aspects to it than I have mentioned. here have a read.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/farmer-turns-gun-on-himself-after-killing-man-over-land-1.488308

cameramonkey

pablo128 wrote: »

Here you go.

You havnt withdrawn your incorrect statement. I cant do that for you.
You need to take possession of you mistakes, admit them and move on.

KERSPLAT!

nullzero wrote: »

Did you bother to read the post you quoted?
I said he was clearly a loyalist and I then said assuming that makes him a member of the UDA is supposition. I don't think he necessarily is a UDA member, maybe he is, maybe he doesn't like jaffa cakes, I can't say.

Hold up a second, of course he likes Jaffa cakes.

pablo128

cameramonkey wrote: »

You havnt withdrawn your incorrect statement. I cant do that for you.
You need to take possession of you mistakes, admit them and more on.

cameramonkey

bubblypop wrote: »

All of it. A man got murdered because he bought some land, when he was told not to.
What do you think of that? What's your opinion?

I dont think the guy should have bought the land, it was a big mistake on his part.


I think it was a tragedy that he was subsequently murdered and the man who did it was in the wrong but as you can see from the case he killed himself.


What do you think of the case?

cameramonkey

pablo128 wrote: »

Thanks

nullzero

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Hold up a second, of course he likes Jaffa cakes.

Careful, that might make you bigoted against hob nobs.

blueythebear

cameramonkey wrote: »

I dont think the guy should have bought the land, it was a big mistake on his part.


I think it was a tragedy that he was subsequently murdered and the man who did it was in the wrong but as you can see from the case he killed himself.


What do you think of the case?

Message deleted as I misinterpreted the original post.

Spanish Eyes

simongurnick wrote: »

When heavies intimidate people our of their homes the locals don't take it lightly.

Happens in urban areas all the time. Tribal thing in rural areas maybe.

But no matter. Anyone who has defaulted the Revenue and the bank needs to be evicted if they have not engaged. Which I doubt they did.

Lefty Bicek

blueythebear wrote: »

That is quite simply, the most amazingly stupid and ignorant comment I have ever seen on the internet, specifically, that he "killed himself". Unbelievable.

Why are you so aggressively nitpicking a reported fact ?

Gardai arrived, a stand-off ensued, and Mr Kehoe later turned the gun on himself.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-shot-dead-in-row-over-land-had-complained-about-his-killer-25964748.html

end of the road

For Forks Sake wrote: »

SF have no interest in being in government, far easier for them to be hurlers on the ditch than make actual decisions.

i would disagree. being hurlers on the ditch can only get one so far. eventually one has to progress.

Omackeral wrote: »

Ha ha ha ha. Peter Casey, a nobody, lashed their candidate out of it in the Presidential Election in embarrassing fashion. Try again.

that's only the presidential election though. government is the big prize as it brings actual power and sf's policies are middle of the road enough to potentially get a good amount of votes.