Strokestown **Mod Note in Post #4461**

JCJCJC

There’s already one county in Ireland where most banks won’t accept mortgage applications, because the security is virtually unenforceable. The people supporting the incident in Roscommon need to think about the possible consequences. And, if even one of them is identified, they’ll be buying new vans etc for the security company... then we’ll see who loses their house.

keavebm

gctest50 wrote:

Sheer f****ing greed on the part of those who took out loans they couldn't pay

Are you ****ing serious? Such a stupid comment to make. U dont know the circumstances these people have. Ur probably a banker the greediest scumbags of all.

corks finest

P_1 wrote: »

Eliana Narrow Smooch wrote: »

I'd be more concerned about the vigilante anti eviction thugs who burned out cars and disregarded the rule of law.

As would I. However what do you think inspired that proto nationalist reaction? I get it, the bank has a debt that needs to be enforced but the manner in which they have gone about it is braindead ro put it mildly. Surely somebody there would have copped that this would have acted like a red rag to a bull to the people who went vigilante last night?

Bloody bank owes more

end of the road

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

Crazy stuff. I bet SF are glad there is no election in 2019. Many questions will be asked about this.

i wouldn't imagine sf will have anything to worry about given they have nothing to do with what happened.

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Gardai don't do evictions.

they don't currently, but that should change. it won't be ideal either, but better then hired goons in my view.

P_1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

firstly, look, learn to spell the words you use or learn to use other words- as a rule i detest people grammar nitpicking but as another rule if one is to lecture on complexity then let's have some minimum standards

secondly, there's little or nothing complex about the plot and driving factors relevant to this situation as so well set out by the playwright, who well recognised the irish thug sickness caused by a presumed birthright to "the land". seeing as you raised the point it seemed fair to remind you that at heart its a criticism of exactly the type of lawless, morally vacuous defence of greed and self interest you are defending here.

anyone living in or with experience in rural ireland knows very well the mindset of these fellas and knows very well that beatings in the dark is a long-cherished mechanism of theirs

Fair cop.

You caught me at a moment when I was feeling particularly disdainful towards humanity in general

keavebm

Fann Linn wrote:

We didn't bail out Kbc if I recall correctly.

People are commenting like the banks are the best in the world. Their not. They are money grabbing bastards. The biggest scumbags and crooks in this country are the banks they should be ashamed.

Odyssey 2005

Fann Linn wrote: »

No surprise really when you see where our new Garda chief comes from.

I don't really want to believe the implications of this post, but it does make me wonder if the gov made another big mistake hiring him.!

corks finest

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

end of the road wrote: »

neither would be fine. security shouldn't be involved in the actual eviction. they should only be able to do the basic security job after the eviction is finished.
evictions and similar should only be caried out by an arm of the gardai.

Gardai don't do evictions.

No just block roads , escort the Gombeen men,and stand idly by as elderly ppl are abused,and pushed around,wake up moron FFS

backspin.

Any links to the videos?

Odyssey 2005

corks finest wrote: »

No just block roads , escort the Gombeen men,and stand idly by as elderly ppl are abused,and pushed around,wake up moron FFS

I read on Facebook that one of the elderly people was a retired garda. Any truth in this because the video I saw there was half a dozen big fookers roughly manhandleing him under a serving gardas nose. Hope he was proud of himself.

pablo128

corks finest wrote: »

No just block roads , escort the Gombeen men,and stand idly by as elderly ppl are abused,and pushed around,wake up moron FFS

The elderly people, while I have some sympathy for them, brought it on themselves. And they had every chance to leave peacefully. They chose not to.

Fann Linn

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

I don't really want to believe the implications of this post, but it does make me wonder if the gov made another big mistake hiring him.!

Just threw it out there for the craic, however it is a stick to beat the Garda chief if 'security firms dressed in paramilitary gear from the north' are going to be used continually in evictions down here.

Ultimately the house/land will be sold (but for less than it's worth as a potential buyer will see all this nonsense), so the original owners will still owe even more to the bank (as the land selling for small money will not offset as much of the debt).

Banks around the place will see all this hassle involving farmers and their god-complex that they're above everyone else (and shouldnt have to pay their bills), and will either stop loaning to them or will hit them with huge interest to cover these kind of situations.



Seems like a win-win for all involved, alright.

end of the road

pablo128 wrote: »

The elderly people, while I have some sympathy for them, brought it on themselves. And they had every chance to leave peacefully. They chose not to.

they didn't bring it on themselves no . there isn't any justification for the behaviour of the hired lot.

Padraig Mor

end of the road wrote: »

they didn't bring it on themselves no . there isn't any justification for the behaviour of the hired lot.

Weren't you the one last year saying that the authorities should use violence to force peaceful residents to accept a bunch of antisocial criminal Travellers at the end of their road in the aftermath of the Carrickmines fire?

road_high

Is this another case of people taking out loans on property they couldn’t afford and then finding out they might be evicted from the property they never actually paid for in the first place? Shocker!

gctest50

corks finest wrote: »

No just block roads , escort the Gombeen men,and stand idly by as elderly ppl are abused,and pushed around,wake up moron FFS

They would have all been in court ? Yes ? No ?


Would basically been told by the judge to gtf for not engaging ?

road_high

JCJCJC wrote: »

There’s already one county in Ireland where most banks won’t accept mortgage applications, because the security is virtually unenforceable. The people supporting the incident in Roscommon need to think about the possible consequences. And, if even one of them is identified, they’ll be buying new vans etc for the security company... then we’ll see who loses their house.

Which county is that?

Billcarson

Effects wrote: »

Don't pay your mortgage, you lose your house. Is that too simplistic?

The poor old bankers need all the help they can get eh. Let's not forget it was greedy bankers who helped screw up this country ten yrs ago.

expectationlost

why were these people in Falsk Roscommon evicted? had they borrowed money during the boom for something and couldn't pay it back?

they didn't pay their mortgage is too simple, there must be a story of how they go to that point...

Timberrrrrrrr

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Weren't you the one last year saying that the authorities should use violence to force peaceful residents to accept a bunch of antisocial criminal Travellers at the end of their road in the aftermath of the Carrickmines fire?

Also said peacful protesters should be baton charged (men women and children) if they attempted to stop a Garth Brookes concert from going ahead!

greenfield21

keavebm wrote: »

People are commenting like the banks are the best in the world. Their not. They are money grabbing bastards. The biggest scumbags and crooks in this country are the banks they should be ashamed.

Ah here, did not someone not say these people have been here for three generations? So what were they borrowing the money for. They already have a house and land, could you not call them money grabbers?

gctest50

backspin. wrote: »

Any links to the videos?

https://vredd.it/files/l6m9i90srn421.mp4.

Billcarson

road_high wrote: »

Is this another case of people taking out loans on property they couldn’t afford and then finding out they might be evicted from the property they never actually paid for in the first place? Shocker!

Getting thugs from the north to do the banks dirty work is even more of a shocker. Some of the comments on this thread supporting the banks actions just shows the reason why this country is the way it is. That's what I find really shocking. Im not saying people should not pay back loans but ffs. A bit of solidarity amoung the people of this country against the elite etc is what's needed . Cop the f on.

Jeff2

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

I read on Facebook that one of the elderly people was a retired garda. Any truth in this because the video I saw there was half a dozen big fookers roughly manhandleing him under a serving gardas nose. Hope he was proud of himself.

This was posted on the farming forum by 148multi. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=468308&d=1544982954

Lefty Bicek

expectationlost wrote: »

why were these people in Falsk Roscommon evicted? had they borrowed money during the boom for something and couldn't pay it back?

If I have the right property, Google Maps indicates a substantial farm building out the back of the property.

Might be an over-investment ?

Bubblegummers

Odelay wrote: »

Where does it say that?

Mate apply for a license and check it out. I’m 110% sure through my brother working in a club called Box in Belfast and his issuer was PSA he was brought to court so was his employer.

keavebm

greenfield21 wrote:

Ah here, did not someone not say these people have been here for three generations? So what were they borrowing the money for. They already have a house and land, could you not call them money grabbers?

Very funny. These are ordinary people with a small house and feck all land. Why dont the banks ever go after the ones with the money that owe money? Cause they are afraid they will always pick on the poor. And the scumbags that were evicting them. Fair play who ever burnt the vans.**** off back to Belfast. And the best bit! A man been assaulted by these scum and a ****in guard watching it. And people wonder why the guards are hated. To protect the people me ****in arse another shower of corrupt *****

JCJCJC

road_high wrote: »

Which county is that?

Don’t want to say right now, can do without the ****-storm it might generate.

Fann Linn

keavebm wrote: »

Very funny. These are ordinary people with a small house and feck all land. Why dont the banks ever go after the ones with the money that owe money? Cause they are afraid they will always pick on the poor. And the scumbags that were evicting them. Fair play who ever burnt the vans.**** off back to Belfast. And the best bit! A man been assaulted by these scum and a ****in guard watching it. And people wonder why the guards are hated. To protect the people me ****in arse another shower of corrupt *****

And all of this followed by a protest march today in Castlerea regarding alleged Garda brutality last week when two men were badly beaten. Gardai in Co. Roscommon going the right way fairly quickly in losing public support.