Are these Weather warnings overblown?

Wheres Me Jumper?

It seems to me that these weather warning are now completely 'er overblown.
I mean a bit of rain and a few gusts.
I was out & about earlier and the amount of events which are imo needlessly cancelled is ridiculous.
imo we've become a nation of snowflakes.

do you agree?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/storm-deirdre-esb-teams-on-standby-as-120kmh-gusts-and-heavy-rain-set-to-batter-the-country-37628922.html

gozunda

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

It seems to me that these weather warning are now completely 'er overblown.
I mean a bit of rain and a few gusts.
I was out & about earlier and the amount of events which are imo needlessly cancelled is ridiculous.
imo we become a nation of snowflakes.

do you agree?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/storm-deirdre-esb-teams-on-standby-as-120kmh-gusts-and-heavy-rain-set-to-batter-the-country-37628922.html

No

Bubblegummers

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

It seems to me that these weather warning are now completely 'er overblown.
I mean a bit of rain and a few gusts.
I was out & about earlier and the amount of events which are imo needlessly cancelled is ridiculous.
imo we become a nation of snowflakes.

do you agree?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/storm-deirdre-esb-teams-on-standby-as-120kmh-gusts-and-heavy-rain-set-to-batter-the-country-37628922.html

Ridiculous go into town now and see if it’s “Overblown”

Wheres Me Jumper?

Bubblegummers wrote: »

Ridiculous go into town now and see if it’s “Overblown”

well where i am there is nothing to get excited about.
perhaps Met Eireann needs to be a bit more geo-specific about its' warnings, rather than issuing blanket warning for the whole country.

we get weather outside of Dublin as well you know.

vicwatson

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

well where i am there is nothing to get excited about.
perhaps Met Eireann needs to be a bit more geo-specific about its' warnings, rather than issuing blanket warning for the whole country.

we get weather outside of Dublin as well you know.

Yeh Met Eireann why don’t you make the inexact science exact ffs :rolleyes:

Wheres Me Jumper?

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

It seems to me that these weather warning are now completely 'er overblown.
I mean a bit of rain and a few gusts.
I was out & about earlier and the amount of events which are imo needlessly cancelled is ridiculous.
imo we become a nation of snowflakes.

do you agree?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/storm-deirdre-esb-teams-on-standby-as-120kmh-gusts-and-heavy-rain-set-to-batter-the-country-37628922.html

Tree fell in my estate this afternoon, I guess it was blown over.

Signore Fancy Pants

If its not cold and blustery enough for ya, why are ye looking for yer jumper!

4068ac1elhodqr

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

Met Eireann needs to be a bit more geo-specific about its' warnings, rather than issuing blanket warning for the whole country.

The orange alert was updated at 14:25 today and is now reduced to just a few specific counties.

But the yellow wind warning remains in place for everywhere else.

Ubbquittious

Indeed they are overblown. A yellow or an orange warning for every gust. Conspiracy theorist in me says Met Eireann have been given instructions to play up the bad weather in order to make impending carbon taxes more palatable

HeidiHeidi

Would you not wait until the storm has actually passed through before commenting on the accuracy of the forecasts?

JMNolan

Ah they are, an orange wind warning in Cork and advice not to make unnecessary travel. Come on, I was out spinning around all afternoon, bit of a breeze only.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Indeed they are overblown. A yellow or an orange warning for every gust. Conspiracy theorist in me says Met Eireann have been given instructions to play up the bad weather in order to make impending carbon taxes more palatable

i think it's all part of the global warming agenda.
"Look! Look! we told you!"

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

well where i am there is nothing to get excited about.
perhaps Met Eireann needs to be a bit more geo-specific about its' warnings, rather than issuing blanket warning for the whole country.

we get weather outside of Dublin as well you know.

The Orange alert was geo-specific. Wexford, Waterford, Cork and Donegal. Met eireann gets it fairly accurate. What's overblown is the reaction of some people to it.

whiskeyman

:pac:

Wheres Me Jumper?

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Would you not wait until the storm has actually passed through before commenting on the accuracy of the forecasts?

well i'm commenting on the CURRENT situation, which as i've said is not bad at all.
a bit of rain (which we are well used to) and a few mild gusts.

Nothing to get excited about in the slightest, but no doubt RTEs weather girls reveling in their new found celebrity status will be on Tubs or d'Arcy telling us all how awful it was.

wakka12

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

well where i am there is nothing to get excited about.
perhaps Met Eireann needs to be a bit more geo-specific about its' warnings, rather than issuing blanket warning for the whole country.

we get weather outside of Dublin as well you know.

They are always as geo specific as possible , weather is not an exact science its all guesswork until its actually happening, youre free to go outside and do what you want regardless of the warning anyway its a warning not a rule

I didnt go outside today and didnt even know there was a weather warning in effect but the winds sounded extreme this morning

HeidiHeidi

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

well i'm commenting on the CURRENT situation, which as i've said is not bad at all.
a bit of rain (which we are well used to) and a few mild gusts.

Nothing to get excited about in the slightest, but no doubt RTEs weather girls reveling in their new found celebrity status will be on Tubs or d'Arcy telling us all how awful it was.

But the warnings run until 7pm, 10pm and midnight. So what's the CURRENT weather got to do with anything?

Or are you just mad to have a go at ME, which seems an awfully trendy thing to do these days for some reason?

Wheres Me Jumper?

wakka12 wrote: »

They are always as geo specific as possible , weather is not an exact science its all guesswork until its actually happening, youre free to go outside and do what you want regardless of the warning anyway its a warning not a rule

fair point and i do. i went for a cycle this morning as i always do on a Sat. most pleasant.
however it seems to me that there are many folk who are incapable of thinking for themselves and making a reasoned calculation of risk, so instead they take these warnings too literally, and either stay indoors and/or needlessly cancel events.

maybe the Warning should come with a warning?;)

Fr Tod Umptious

I think they are a very handy to use as a guide.

Kids soccer this morning was cancelled last night because of a rainfall alert.

And dead right cos it was fairly wet this morning.

Makes it much easier for people to make a call on something and plan.

Wheres Me Jumper?

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

But the warnings run until 7pm, 10pm and midnight. So what's the CURRENT weather got to do with anything?

Or are you just mad to have a go at ME, which seems an awfully trendy thing to do these days for some reason?

no Heidi nothing personal i assure you.
we'll see what if anything happens later then...

DontThankMe

No don't agree with your statement I'd rather that they aired on the side of caution and give warnings that may save people's lives in the long run.

Think of it this way would you rather they gave out 10 warnings that were "overblown" and nobody was injured or killed.

OR

They were very lax in their warnings and people ended up venturing out on a journey that wouldn't have taken if there was a warning issued and end up getting killed or injured.

I'm always going to be in favour of option 1 myself.

freshpopcorn

This is my take on the the weather warnings.
Most of them I've found fairly accurate.
However it depends in how people react around them.
I live in North Cork and often the Coast gets the worst of it and gets hit first.
I remember during a previous weather warning which was due to hit at midday(I think). A guy posted online at about 7am telling everybody it was grand and was giving out about things being cancelled but when about midday landed the weather was fairly bad and things should have being cancelled.

Wheres Me Jumper?

DontThankMe wrote: »

No don't agree with your statement I'd rather that they aired on the side of caution and give warnings that may save people's lives in the long run.

Think of it this way would you rather they gave out 10 warnings that were "overblown" and nobody was injured or killed.

OR

They were very lax in their warnings and people ended up venturing out on a journey that wouldn't have taken if there was a warning issued and end up getting killed or injured.

I'm always going to in favour of option 1 myself.

well the Dept of Transport may as well give daily warnings to road users to stay at home. i can guarantee you more folk will be killed by RTAs in a week than by a year of weather.

Balanadan

Maybe the good people of Met Eireann are non-nationals, completely new to Ireland.

Just a heads up to anyone heading to Spain on the hollyers next summer, Orange Alert, it may be sunny.

SEPT 23 1989

Issuing warnings and threats to people will get them nowhere

A bit of diplomacy is needed

martingriff

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

well where i am there is nothing to get excited about.
perhaps Met Eireann needs to be a bit more geo-specific about its' warnings, rather than issuing blanket warning for the whole country.

we get weather outside of Dublin as well you know.

I was driving from limerick to Ennis today trust me nothing overblown about the warnings

dxhound2005

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Issuing warnings and threats to people will get them nowhere

A bit of diplomacy is needed

Or lifeguards when they go for a swim.

whisky_galore

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Issuing warnings and threats to people will get them nowhere

A bit of diplomacy is needed

Where are they issuing threats?

Ubbquittious

What annoys me the most is all these bloody small craft warnings. Havn't been able to use my small craft for months as a result

Wheres Me Jumper?

martingriff wrote: »

I was driving from limerick to Ennis today trust me nothing overblown about the warnings

i do think the bottom half of the country has been worst hit.

Wheres Me Jumper?

maybe Met Eireann need to issue a winter weather warning?

"please be careful during the winter season, as you can expect wintry weather like rain, wind, possibly hail and snow. be careful out there folks!"

kneemos

Should stop naming bad days and calling storms.

alta stare

The problem isnt the issue of warnings per say, the problem is people either not reading the warnings or misinterpreting exactly what is due to hit.

One big issue i see on Boards is the posters who act as if the apocalypse has arrived when in fact its just a passing shower or wind event. This drives on the sensationalist reporting of what is supposedly happening across the country. People have lost all sense of what bad weather is.

Feisar

The parameters for a weather warning seem to be much lower than years ago.

dxhound2005

Feisar wrote: »

The parameters for a weather warning seem to be much lower than years ago.

They never warned us about the Night of the Big Wind.

Wheres Me Jumper?

alta stare wrote: »

The problem isnt the issue of warnings per say, the problem is people either not reading the warnings or misinterpreting exactly what is due to hit.

One big issue i see on Boards is the posters who act as if the apocalypse has arrived when in fact its just a passing shower or wind event. This drives on the sensationalist reporting of what is supposedly happening across the country. People have lost all sense of what bad weather is.

thank you. i'm not going insane after all.

Irish Guitarist

The last time there was a thread complaining about weather warnings was a couple of months ago. On the same day they posted the thread this was in the news.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/swiss-tourist-dies-after-caravan-blown-off-cliff-in-galway-870002.html

dxhound2005

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

The last time there was a thread complaining about weather warnings was a couple of months ago. On the same day they posted the thread this was in the news.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/swiss-tourist-dies-after-caravan-blown-off-cliff-in-galway-870002.html

Before that it was the big snow, which cause havoc. People on Boards dismissed it at the start as a non event.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

The last time there was a thread complaining about weather warnings was a couple of months ago. On the same day they posted the thread this was in the news.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/swiss-tourist-dies-after-caravan-blown-off-cliff-in-galway-870002.html

very sad and sincere condolences to the lady's family, but we need a little perspective here.
how many people die on our roads every week? should we all refrain from driving? of course not.

green123

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Indeed they are overblown. A yellow or an orange warning for every gust. Conspiracy theorist in me says Met Eireann have been given instructions to play up the bad weather in order to make impending carbon taxes more palatable

They are also exaggerating things to make themselves seem more relevant and important.

Ubbquittious

green123 wrote: »

They are also exaggerating things to make themselves seem more relevant and important.

Feeling the pressure from http://yr.no perhaps?

Wheres Me Jumper?

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Before that it was the big snow, which cause havoc. People on Boards dismissed it at the start as a non event.

i recall the whole country went mad buying sliced pan.
the weather was very bad in many parts, but quite manageable in others, yet they shut the whole country down. no need imo.

alta stare

The media dont help either. Then theres social media. People have lost the ability to think for themselves. I see my mother gets suckered in by facebook posts about the impending doom everytime there is a chance of a bit of wind rain snow etc.... If my mother and people alike actually took time to read a weather report they would usually see the event wont be as bad as they have been told.

I always go to the weather section here and follow the postings of MT, Meteroite, Gaoth Laidor (apologies if i misspelt them) i find they are usually accurate in their outlook.

Sycamore Tree

I dont think the weather warnings are overblown. MetE are usually spot on.

However I think the warnings will lose their effectiveness as time goes by. They are so frequent and even localised that people will just decide themselves or completely ignore them. People in Galway often tell me they ignore them now.

That said, I was out and about during Ali with trees falling all around me so I will never take the weather for granted.

Wheeliebin30

You’re billy big balls until a tree falls on your car and you’re dead.

Then the government will get blamed.

STB.

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

i recall the whole country went mad buying sliced pan.
the weather was very bad in many parts, but quite manageable in others, yet they shut the whole country down. no need imo.

Another spanner who cannot understand how weather forecasting works.

Just because it didn't hit the few square metres you occupy you think its an over reaction. Besides the few gobshítes who ignore any warnings, the warnings are generally for the preservation of society. Be it signalling potentially power outages to a tree coming down on you because you are unnecessarily on the road or thinking of going for a swim.

Then there are the unscrupulous employers who expect you to risk life and limb no matter what the weather.

Until you devise an early warning system for your area, we will continue to have I'm alright jack, don't know what all the fuss is whataboutery.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Feisar wrote: »

The parameters for a weather warning seem to be much lower than years ago.

the snowflake effect?

Fr Tod Umptious

Feisar wrote: »

The parameters for a weather warning seem to be much lower than years ago.

There were no weather warnings years ago.

You were told there would be winds of a certain force based on a victorian measurement system or x inches of rain.

No one knew what it was actually expected to be like.

Coloured warning first appeared this decade and I'd say it's only this century that the switched from using the Beaufort scale to Km/ph for wind speed.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I agree. I’m in Letterkenny and while we had a wet and windy day it was far from stormy. I didn’t even bother putting the bins into the garage and they’re still standing and contents intact.

Larbre34

This is a dangerous system causing squals and lots of surface water locally for a couple of hours at a time.

In Dublin at 6pm the wind was gusting 13kph, by 7pm it was howling at over 100 kph with driving rain. Risky for flying debris, high-sided trucks and aqua-planing cars, especially with all the festive outdoor activities that take place this weekend

The warnings are tied to the science, and they're not overblown, they are sensibly vigilant. If your bins didnt blow over in Donegal, isnt that a good thing, if you had to go and fetch them in Sligo you'd be complaining Eoghan Murphy should resign.

Beechwoodspark

I’m convinced that Met eireann get a bonus every time they issue these warnings.