New Stove with existing back boiler.

Lumen

Rows Grower wrote: »

We have the same, the condenser boiler does the underfloor heating. It takes about two to three hours to heat up properly but then stays hot for a long time, as in like about 12 hours heat for 3 hours oil burning. Thanks to the lads doing the foundation we used 100mm kingspan under the pipes instead of the 50mm that was recommended at the time and it was the best advice ever.


The stove heats up four 7 foot double rads upstairs and the towel rads in the bathroom and ensuites as well as heating the room it is in.

We find the stove very efficient and easy to control, we use a mix of ovoids, coal, slack, timber and turf. I can't understand how people can say a boiler stove is a waste of time, we think it's a great job.

If someone is having a problem heating rads off a boiler stove the issue could be with the pump, a lot of them have three different settings and it might be a simple thing like increasing the setting that will solve the issue.

What's the advantage over just running both systems off the boiler?

Rows Grower

Lumen wrote: »

What's the advantage over just running both systems off the boiler?

We are not totally dependent on oil.

We like looking at a fire.

In case of a power cut we still have heat and the ability to cook too.

cranefly

Lumen wrote: »

There's a report post button if that's what butters your muffin.

No thanks mate, its not my style, i am too busy warming my muffin on my lovely stove, ready for buttering. Just another advantage of this type of heating, that other types cannot reach.

Water John

Brian just because oil burner is the most efficient, it has no need to be condescending, (post 15)

recedite

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble, When you're perfect in every way...

melsmum

I have to admit, I know nothing about the technicalities of boiler stoves, but I had one installed about four years ago. The guys that installed it took out the old back boiler, and did a lot of re-jigging with the pipework, that much I do know. The stove is a Stratford Ecoboiler, running six radiators. It's an insert stove and the installers packed a huge amount of some sort of insulating material around it as they were putting it in. I find it very effecient. Not, obviously, as fast to heat the rads as flipping the switch on the oil boiler, but effecient enough that tbh, in the mild spell we are having at the moment, I haven't lit it for the last few days. I've just had the oil on for a couple of hours in the morning, and a couple of hours in the evening. Because, I find with the stove, that once it's lit and going, it's going for a long time.
When I have used it for all day heat, it's used about 1 1/2 buckets of "ecobrite stove coal" per day, which I think is pretty good going. Normally, I put some on (and I never build a huge fire in the stove) at about 5.30 or 6 in the evening, and it would be still going at around 11pm.

Markcheese

Rows Grower wrote: »

We are not totally dependent on oil.

We like looking at a fire.

In case of a power cut we still have heat and the ability to cook too.

I thought that you shouldn't really use a boiler stove if the powers out... Because the pump won't work... I suppose if the systems designed to work without a pump..

Rows Grower

Markcheese wrote: »

I thought that you shouldn't really use a boiler stove if the powers out... Because the pump won't work... I suppose if the systems designed to work without a pump..

You don't have to use the boiler pump in the stove every time you light it.

There is a switch installed to power on/off the pump.

_Brian

Markcheese wrote: »

I thought that you shouldn't really use a boiler stove if the powers out... Because the pump won't work... I suppose if the systems designed to work without a pump..

Definitely something to be aware of.

We’ve only had one power outage in the 11 years since we built and installed he stove but it was over a very cold spell. 36hrs with no power.

Was able to light a moderate fire in the stove which warmed the room well without boiling the water in the stove, the firebox is large giving room to position it away from the boiler itself.

melsmum

_Brian wrote: »

Definitely something to be aware of.

We’ve only had one power outage in the 11 years since we built and installed he stove but it was over a very cold spell. 36hrs with no power.

Was able to light a moderate fire in the stove which warmed the room well without boiling the water in the stove, the firebox is large giving room to position it away from the boiler itself.

That's something I'm always nervous of. I live in a very stormy area, and although the power doesn't often go off, because the stove stays hot (and the heating stays on) for hours and hours after I last put fuel on, I tend not to light it if we're in for a storm. I have oil heating and electric radiant panels on the ceiling as well, AND a portable gas heater! There's also an unused, open fire in the living room. I keep thinking I should get the chimney covered at the top, or close up the fireplace, but then, in case of power being out, it would be handy to have.

Noggle

I've decided to dispense with the back boiler completely and have it removed, also have the pipes crimped. Is it necessary to line the flue for the new stove which is now there to provide ambience and heat the downstairs space only.

recedite

Noggle wrote: »

I've decided to dispense with the back boiler completely and have it removed, also have the pipes crimped. Is it necessary to line the flue for the new stove which is now there to provide ambience and heat the downstairs space only.

If the chimney is working now with an open fire, then it would also work with a stove.
Its not necessary to line it, and if you do line it, its not necessary to insulate around the liner.

However, a lined chimney with insulation only at the top 2 metres or so is a warmer chimney, which is a slightly better thing to have.