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Days of used ticket stubs being collected almost at an end?

  • 05-12-2018 7:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭


    I know I'm not the only one who does this but feel the end is near for this hobby. I've collected concert ticket stubs for 15+ years, hundreds of shows.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to avoid Ticketmaster but do so where possible, have a few gigs coming up and most I've had no choice but to use them. Have gigs coming up in January and none of the tickets had shown up...until today.

    Enclosed in the envelope was paper crap tickets with a note (also paper crap) which read...
    TICKETMASTER

    IMPORTANT INFORMATION

    HELLO, THESE ARE OUR BRAND NEW PAPER TICKETS!

    FOLD TEAR ENJOY

    (Picture of a fold)(Picture of a bunch of tickets)(Picture of sign of the horns) :o

    To ensure that you separate the tickets correctly please fold the tickets by the perforation and then tear as outlined in our diagram above - making sure you leave the ticket stub on!

    You can then hand them out to your party on the day and work in exactly the same way as our older style tickets.

    Make sure you keep your tickets safe & enjoy your event!

    So they notified me I would not be getting what I thought I ordered when they made the delivery of the inferior alternative, sure it's clear my main aim and use is to get me through show doors but when it states on that note you can hand out to your party and work in exactly the same way as older tickets...no, for me I'd rarely have a "party" a chunk of my friends don't share the same taste in music, those older tickets were card more durable lucky enough to get a number signed by artists over the years unlikely that new sh1te cuts it for that, work in same way as older me bollocks.

    Am I actually being over dramatic for a simple but possibly dying hobby? Ticket fees seem to be increasing the whole time while the service provided appears to be relaxing more,I wonder did some people lose their jobs because dozens of event goers print their tickets at home these days while the higher ups reap the rewards and this is with what appears to be times of ever increasing demand and prices in this industry...

    ...Least they could do is gimme a proper ticket stub. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I know I'm not the only one who does this but feel the end is near for this hobby. I've collected concert ticket stubs for 15+ years, hundreds of shows.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to avoid Ticketmaster but do so where possible, have a few gigs coming up and most I've had no choice but to use them. Have gigs coming up in January and none of the tickets had shown up...until today.

    Enclosed in the envelope was paper crap tickets with a note (also paper crap) which read...



    So they notified me I would not be getting what I thought I ordered when they made the delivery of the inferior alternative, sure it's clear my main aim and use is to get me through show doors but when it states on that note you can hand out to your party and work in exactly the same way as older tickets...no, for me I'd rarely have a "party" a chunk of my friends don't share the same taste in music, those older tickets were card more durable lucky enough to get a number signed by artists over the years unlikely that new sh1te cuts it for that, work in same way as older me bollocks.

    Am I actually being over dramatic for a simple but possibly dying hobby? Ticket fees seem to be increasing the whole time while the service provided appears to be relaxing more,I wonder did some people lose their jobs because dozens of event goers print their tickets at home these days while the higher ups reap the rewards and this is with what appears to be times of ever increasing demand and prices in this industry...

    ...Least they could do is gimme a proper ticket stub. :(
    You'd have to wonder why ticket companies even exist these days. You'd think promoters would be able to sell tickets for their own events


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    I agree completely! I've been going to gigs for 17 years and just filled my first 100 stub book album. I have a couple of signed tickets from over the years: Frank Black etc...

    I was at a gig in the UK a month or so ago but got these tickets posted out at the start of 2018 and they were these crappy supermarket tear out and keep quality paper ones you mention.

    I mentioned this on the General Gig Questions Forum a few weeks ago but can you even get physical tickets from Ticketbastard online anymore?

    I bought tickets for Deus in the last couple of weeks and the only way I could get actual tickets posted out was to get "gift wrapped" ones at an extra €5 charge. Seems like Ticketbastard are trying to gouge even more money out of us consumers by forcing us towards e-tickets/crappy tissue paper tickets. They really are a pack of *****! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,094 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Seems so. Unless you want to pay for "speedy dispatch with gift wrap" tickets.

    The cúnts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,906 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Oh no ,so they have brought in those tissue paper tickets like they use in the UK ?
    They are a disgrace those tickets ,no excuse for penny pinching like that .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    This is a real shame..

    Glad I’m not the only weirdo collecting stubs. I have every ticket bar one spanning back to my first festival, Fleadh Tramore 93..

    Never knew a ticket stub book existed. Great idea.. I’ll be ordering one tonight..

    Gutted to hear that we won’t get proper stubs any more..

    Ticketmaster are incredibly greedy and this is a sh1t move.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,906 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Rennaws wrote: »

    Ticketmaster are incredibly greedy and this is a sh1t move.
    The new order history gui on the website is terrible too .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Peter File


    Buying tickets from tm outlets looks like being the only way to get proper tickets now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,059 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Yeah got my Ozzy/Judas ticket this morning and they were these new **** paper tickets. There so delicate too. These TM fees are a real rip off

    Disappointed as I have a **** ton of tickets stuck up around my bedroom and now I have to be extra careful now as these tickets are so easily ripped


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Would you mind posting a pic of the new tickets?

    Love collecting the stubs, this makes me sad :(

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,906 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Peter File wrote: »
    Buying tickets from tm outlets looks like being the only way to get proper tickets now

    I got some Hozier tickets today for the Olympia and they are the proper paper ones so maybe its just some venues they are using it for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Atavan-Halen


    I wonder if you pick box office collection do you still get the hard copy tickets? I like to keep them too and always choose the physical tickets when I can


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Dontfadeaway


    Got some this week. Hate them. Thin flimsy piece of paper. Doing it on the cheap now. I've saved all my tickets too, Shame you can't get collector tickets for all events.

    I got mine posted the normal way, No gift wrap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    I know I'm not the only one who does this but feel the end is near for this hobby. I've collected concert ticket stubs for 15+ years, hundreds of shows.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to avoid Ticketmaster but do so where possible, have a few gigs coming up and most I've had no choice but to use them. Have gigs coming up in January and none of the tickets had shown up...until today.

    Enclosed in the envelope was paper crap tickets with a note (also paper crap) which read...



    So they notified me I would not be getting what I thought I ordered when they made the delivery of the inferior alternative, sure it's clear my main aim and use is to get me through show doors but when it states on that note you can hand out to your party and work in exactly the same way as older tickets...no, for me I'd rarely have a "party" a chunk of my friends don't share the same taste in music, those older tickets were card more durable lucky enough to get a number signed by artists over the years unlikely that new sh1te cuts it for that, work in same way as older me bollocks.

    Am I actually being over dramatic for a simple but possibly dying hobby? Ticket fees seem to be increasing the whole time while the service provided appears to be relaxing more,I wonder did some people lose their jobs because dozens of event goers print their tickets at home these days while the higher ups reap the rewards and this is with what appears to be times of ever increasing demand and prices in this industry...

    ...Least they could do is gimme a proper ticket stub. :(

    Do you have a pic of these new tickets? I can hazard a guess at why they are doing it.

    Mobile phones!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭quaidox


    was thinking the exact same thing, bought sleaford mods ticket this morn, no option for ticket to be posted, except if it's "gift wrapped".
    take a photo of eticket, print out and put in scrap book might be the only option going forward...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    Rennaws wrote: »
    This is a real shame..

    Glad I’m not the only weirdo collecting stubs. I have every ticket bar one spanning back to my first festival, Fleadh Tramore 93..

    Never knew a ticket stub book existed. Great idea.. I’ll be ordering one tonight..

    Gutted to hear that we won’t get proper stubs any more..

    Ticketmaster are incredibly greedy and this is a sh1t move.

    For the record, this is the one I bought:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ardermu-Ticket-Stub-Organizer-Collection/dp/B07BFWRVWY/

    Also wanted to repeat again what ***** Ticketmaster are!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    Hum of sentimental hoarders abound. Rooms and attics heaving with sad keepsakes. They create shows based on this kind of neurosis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    quaidox wrote: »
    was thinking the exact same thing, bought sleaford mods ticket this morn, no option for ticket to be posted, except if it's "gift wrapped".
    take a photo of eticket, print out and put in scrap book might be the only option going forward...

    I was thinking more of the problems we have when 4-5 people turn up with all the tickets on the one phone. Messy getting in and worse if one goes to the jacks/bar. They cant get back into the section as their ticket is on the mates phone.

    Its why we stopped scanning print at home tickets from phones in the Aviva.

    A single print at home ticket with many barcodes would solve it to a point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭dragonfly!


    I know I'm not the only one who does this but feel the end is near for this hobby. I've collected concert ticket stubs for 15+ years, hundreds of shows.

    It's becoming increasingly difficult to avoid Ticketmaster but do so where possible, have a few gigs coming up and most I've had no choice but to use them. Have gigs coming up in January and none of the tickets had shown up...until today.

    Enclosed in the envelope was paper crap tickets with a note (also paper crap) which read...



    So they notified me I would not be getting what I thought I ordered when they made the delivery of the inferior alternative, sure it's clear my main aim and use is to get me through show doors but when it states on that note you can hand out to your party and work in exactly the same way as older tickets...no, for me I'd rarely have a "party" a chunk of my friends don't share the same taste in music, those older tickets were card more durable lucky enough to get a number signed by artists over the years unlikely that new sh1te cuts it for that, work in same way as older me bollocks.

    Am I actually being over dramatic for a simple but possibly dying hobby? Ticket fees seem to be increasing the whole time while the service provided appears to be relaxing more,I wonder did some people lose their jobs because dozens of event goers print their tickets at home these days while the higher ups reap the rewards and this is with what appears to be times of ever increasing demand and prices in this industry...

    ...Least they could do is gimme a proper ticket stub. :(

    Well thats rubbish
    I love collecting tickets :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    Would you mind posting a pic of the new tickets?

    Love collecting the stubs, this makes me sad :(

    6slzSDQ.jpg?1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    johnnykilo wrote: »
    For the record, this is the one I bought:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ardermu-Ticket-Stub-Organizer-Collection/dp/B07BFWRVWY/

    Also wanted to repeat again what ***** Ticketmaster are!

    That looks nice. I bought a ticket stub book a while back from Amazon but it was designed to hold U.S. tickets which tend to be much narrower than the type we're used to, so it was useless. I use photo albums but I think I might take a punt on this. Let us now how you get on with it.

    Ticketb@stard really are a f*cking dreadful shower of sh!te


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    Yeah, I have no complaints with it.

    Takes all standard (TicketBastard, Tickets.ie etc..) tickets. There's 100 normal ticket size windows about 4 paper and plastic window slightly bigger ones at the back. I've just filled my first album this month, so probably order a new one in the coming weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Hum of sentimental hoarders abound. Rooms and attics heaving with sad keepsakes. They create shows based on this kind of neurosis.

    And what of it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,034 ✭✭✭lc180


    Moved house recently after 7 years of living in Dublin, I'd built quite the collection of tickets stubs, some legendary musicians, some amazing small acts and some awful ****e. I love them all equally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭creativedrinker


    I went to a gig in Germany there and they had a version of the new tickets but they had the tour art in the ticket which I liked. That might come in here now with these new paper tickets?

    This is a book I use, perfect for holding tickets
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Just-Ticket-Stub-Organizer/dp/1441303502/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1544118572&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=ticket+holder&dpPl=1&dpID=51-rSV5H98L&ref=plSrch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,283 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    The only ones I care about are the glasto ones and they'll never move away from paper tickets.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    I don't get how people can go to hundreds of shows. It shows you how fussy I am with music, there are only about 10 bands I would pay to watch, I've even seen someone say they've been to over 1000.

    I have tickets from Trivium, Lacuna Coil and I also have some confetti from an Evanescence concert 6 years ago, I didn't purposely keep the stuff but when I realised after a couple of years that I still had it I just decided to keep it.

    I think they should sell programmes like at sport games, at least just a booklet with the recent band photo shoots In.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    I don't get how people can go to hundreds of shows.

    Because they like music, maybe...


  • Registered Users Posts: 338 ✭✭fallen01angel


    I put mine in a plain black A2? picture frame and hung it in my downstairs loo 😂 One of my earliest gigs was Metallica in the Point Depot......ticket cost £22.50 !!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭psychozeb


    I don't get how people can go to hundreds of shows. It shows you how fussy I am with music, there are only about 10 bands I would pay to watch, I've even seen someone say they've been to over 1000.

    I have tickets from Trivium, Lacuna Coil and I also have some confetti from an Evanescence concert 6 years ago, I didn't purposely keep the stuff but when I realised after a couple of years that I still had it I just decided to keep it.

    I think they should sell programmes like at sport games, at least just a booklet with the recent band photo shoots In.

    Even being fussy, I've seen these bands alone 61 times between them, iron maiden x30, Metallica x20 and U2 x11


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  • Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭psychozeb


    I use an old photo album for mine and bit at the back for negatives is ideal for wristbands.


  • Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭psychozeb


    I use an old photo album for mine and bit at the back for negatives is ideal for wristbands.


  • Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭psychozeb


    Tickets


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen




    6slzSDQ.jpg?1

    If they did a print at home version of that it would solve many, many problems!

    If you collect tickets, its another form of one. Could be worth a few bob if the idea does not catch on!


  • Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Larsso30


    looks to me that there is a perforated stub on these tickets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    Larsso30 wrote: »
    looks to me that there is a perforated stub on these tickets?

    There is. I guess the issue is that they're just basically printed onto paper rather than say the card that "normal" tickets are printed on. I'd say these new tickets are about 1/3 as thick as regular tickets and they look ****e!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭UsedToWait


    johnnykilo wrote: »
    There is. I guess the issue is that they're just basically printed onto paper rather than say the card that "normal" tickets are printed on. I'd say these new tickets are about 1/3 as thick as regular tickets and they look ****e!

    Tbh, tickets haven't really been collector's items since they became generic ticketmaster ones.

    This thread gave me the idea of maybe framing some of my old tickets, but really, hanging a load of ticketmaster tickets would look no better than framing a load of Tescos receipts..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭Thundercats Ho


    I did a canvas print with a collage of stubs from some of my favorite gigs, a few years back.
    It turned out really well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭dragonfly!


    I arrived home to post
    TM have changed the envelopes too...
    For some reason TM sent me the same tickets twice too?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭sally cinnamon89


    My tickets just arrived for the cure, my god the new tickets are a change from the old ones. Feel very papery


  • Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭sacamano


    As an aside, I bought some tickets recently for a gig next year and selected the e-ticket option as they are a gift and I wanted something to actually hand over. Is there any way of changing this for an “actual” ticket now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Atavan-Halen


    sacamano wrote: »
    As an aside, I bought some tickets recently for a gig next year and selected the e-ticket option as they are a gift and I wanted something to actually hand over. Is there any way of changing this for an “actual” ticket now?

    If you email ticketmaster they should be able to change it for you. I know they did it for me before. They probably won’t be posted out before Christmas though if it’s for a Christmas present


  • Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭sacamano


    Yeah it's getting a bit late now. Any idea if they can print from their ticket offices to speed up the process? I've asked them myself but chances of getting a reply are slim to none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭notahappycamper


    You’re not the only one. I’ve also being keeping ticket stubbs from gigs. I was rightly pisssssed off when Noel Gallagher Malahide Castle ticket arrived. The cheapest A4 print out. They should reduce the fees if they are reducing the cost of reverting to paper over the harder card/paper tickets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭sabrewulf


    Hi guys,

    question on these ticket stub books: Are they using a material that does not dissolve ticket prints?

    I was using a photo album for this. Works great with the "proper" tickets, however I've had issues with the cheaply printed ones.
    These appear to be some kind of thermo-paper prints (like a fax machine works). After a year or so in the photo album all printing on them had pretty much disappeared. There is some ingredients in these plastic pockets that dissolves them. Wondering if the stub hub books avoid this issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭sabrewulf


    One more note: Proper ticket stubs have been recognized as having a market again in recent years, so they may have a come back.

    In Germany you can get a proper ticket for pretty much any event again:
    https://www.google.de/search?q=eventim+fan+ticket&gl=de&hl=de&pws=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch

    In Ireland TM was experimenting with this:
    https://blog.ticketmaster.ie/latest-news/collector-tickets-7711
    however, unfortunately this is hasn't been rolled out to all events. Fingers crossed it will!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,723 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I was just about to buy a ticket this morning when I realised that the old ticket format isn't an option anymore unless you pay an extra fiver. What is the service charge on our tickets being used for? I'm sure if you choose the e-ticket, everything is fairly much automated.

    And what if you don't have a smartphone? I love technology but I've never liked phones, and only got my first smartphone a few months ago (at the age of 45). And what if you lose or forget your phone on the day of the gig?

    I've been to hundreds of gigs, and while I don't have all of the tickets (some not surviving mosh-pits), it's nice to have a look at them every now and then, bringing back nice fuzzy memories. The oldest ticket I have is from The Cure at the RDS in July 1989 (both gigs). It'd be a pity not to be able to do this anymore.
    Hum of sentimental hoarders abound. Rooms and attics heaving with sad keepsakes. They create shows based on this kind of neurosis.
    As opposed to the more modern practice of using your phone to record the gig and never watching the recording, and which will probably soon get deleted? At least the sentimental hoarders have enjoyed the gig, and have a tactile, visual reminder of a good experience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭Sheog


    Ah, good old Ticketmaster! Up to their cash saving tricks again!! Honestly, they are like the mafia of the entertainment industry!

    I'd love to know where the +€6 service charge PER TICKET goes to? They can't be spending it on the web site as it's rubbish, and they can't be employing much staff! Now they are taking away the humble ticket stubs, which many gig goers (myself included) love to collect!

    If they are saving money by getting rid of physical tickets (not just ones printed on everyday paper) then they should at the very LEAST be reducing their extortionate service charges. Sigh!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,094 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Speaking of ticketmaster, does anyone know how to browse all music events these days? I can only browse about 6 weeks ahead and then in stops and brings me into "international events".

    The only way I can seem to see gigs from that point is to choose a date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,906 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Sheog wrote: »

    If they are saving money by getting rid of physical tickets (not just ones printed on everyday paper) then they should at the very LEAST be reducing their extortionate service charges. Sigh!!

    I'm afraid the service charges are going up due to the Vat increase by the govt and no doubt this will be rounded up in the coming months.

    Still I guess Ticketmasters fees here are reasonable enough compared to what they charge in the Us where the service charge is a percentage of the ticket ,so the higher the ticket price the higher the fee .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,283 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    The Nal wrote: »
    Speaking of ticketmaster, does anyone know how to browse all music events these days? I can only browse about 6 weeks ahead and then in stops and brings me into "international events".

    The only way I can seem to see gigs from that point is to choose a date.

    I would like to know this as well but I suspect it’s not possible as TM are a shower of cnuts. I used a VPN to get on the Ticketmaster US site and it seems to be the same


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