Now this actually is sexism

engiweirdo

Winner of FIFA's first Ballon D'Or for female players gets asked during the ceremony : "Can you twerk?". Appalling behaviour tbh, but soccer so what would you expect from a pig but a grunt...

https://www.the42.ie/ada-hegerberg-4373969-Dec2018/

Fann Linn

The question was asked by a DJ. Part and parcel of a dj's life I suppose.

facehugger99

I believe the host who made the comments was a DJ - don't really see how it reflects on soccer per se.

It was a pretty stupid comment to make but he has apologised and been widely censured on social media.

McMurphy

This world is increasingly turning into a place where people are all too keen to pull out all the stops to try and look for something to be outraged by.

Racism, sexism cards constantly at the ready.

Moments after Hegerberg’s speech in which she praised football’s attempts to grant equality to its female participants and implored “young girls around the world” to “please believe in yourself”, she was asked on-stage by host Solveig — who had earlier danced alongside Kopa award winner Kylian Mbappé — “Est-ce que tu sais twerker? (Do you know how to twerk?)”

I'm outraged by your being outraged by a non event OP

retalivity

He just came to say 'Hello'!

Huntergonzo

Silly comment alright, it was out of place and she deserved better, but sadly this is also absolute cannon fodder for media outlets like RTE and Newstalk who love to do a nice bit of man hating on a daily basis.

He's apologised and she accepted, let's move on.

ewc78

engiweirdo wrote: »

Winner of FIFA's first Ballon D'Or for female players gets asked during the ceremony : "Can you twerk?". Appalling behaviour tbh, but soccer so what would you expect from a pig but a grunt...

https://www.the42.ie/ada-hegerberg-4373969-Dec2018/

Can she though?

Wheety

ewc78 wrote: »

Can she though?

She said no. She could have at least tried. All the male winners did it when asked.

Grab All Association

I was quite offended by David Attenborough calling climate change man made.

Women drive cars too and fart just as much as men do.

Edgware

Wheety wrote: »

She said no. She could have at least tried. All the male winners did it when asked.

She's no fun. Did Marty ask any of the Ladies footballers to do the twerk?

RossieMan

Shouldn't have happened. But the OP is just lazy, looking for a reaction without even clicking your own link.

Try harder.

engiweirdo

Grab All Association wrote: »

I was quite offended by David Attenborough calling climate change man made.

Women drive cars too and fart just as much as men do.

Totally off topic. Can we keep on track please.

gmisk

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Silly comment alright, it was out of place and she deserved better, but sadly this is also absolute cannon fodder for media outlets like RTE and Newstalk who love to do a nice bit of man hating on a daily basis.

He's apologised and she accepted, let's move on.

He barely apologised let's be honest now.
I think you could see from the reaction of the other people in the audience it wasn't an appropriate thing to say, but it would be a shame if it overshadowed her win.
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I explained to @AdaStolsmo the buzz and she told me she understood it was a joke. Nevertheless my apologies to anyone who may have been offended. Most importantly congratulations to Ada https://t.co/DATdg0TfQk
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Also he should apologise for that jacket... The man is well into his 40s.

duffman13

He asked every person what their dance was, a comment in poor taste and one which he apologised for.

Fr_Dougal

I’d see at as more sleazy than sexist.

gwalk

retalivity wrote: »

He just came to say 'Hello'!

+1

jimgoose

Yes it is sexist, but doesn't rate much more than a quick "Shut up you fuppin' eejit", and the World turns.

tupenny

Embarrassing.
As are some of the hilaaarious comments here.
His "apology" was not an apology

antodeco

engiweirdo wrote: »

Totally off topic. Can we keep on track please.

That poster has a right to their own opinion in fairness. I actually agree with them. If its potentially sexist towards women it's seen as the devil's tongue. However, if there is a potential for negativity towards women (in this case "man-made" it's never allowed to be discussed.

Don't get me wrong, I 100% agree that Solvieg should never has asked this but is it true he asked EVERYONE? Reading different reports on it.

professore

DJs are up there with rappers as the lowest form of life in the music industry. Well known that the best way to get lots of sex as a man is to be a DJ so hardly surprising they are sexist. Then add in the fact he's French, who in general are one of the most sexist nations on the planet then you have the perfect storm.

Who thought it a good idea to have a DJ, especially a French one, present this show. That's the real question.

murpho999

engiweirdo wrote: »

Winner of FIFA's first Ballon D'Or for female players gets asked during the ceremony : "Can you twerk?". Appalling behaviour tbh, but soccer so what would you expect from a pig but a grunt...

https://www.the42.ie/ada-hegerberg-4373969-Dec2018/

Do you not see how your comment is just as discriminatory against a group of people as the twerk comment you are complaining about?

RobbingBandit

Sorry not sorry. Amen brother.

PC version: I kind of really didn't mean it to come out that way sort of. fellow sibling

backspin.

It was a ridiculous question to ask, what was he thinking.

TheIrishGrover

I hate people jumping on the *ism bandwagon. People have gotten so thin-skinned and any comment is open to be accused of some ism. Racism, sexism, ageism.... uh..... sexual identity-ism.... etc.

However, in all fairness, this was pretty sexist and more than a bit sleazy. As I'm sure has been said before, he wouldn't have asked Messi or Ronaldo or any other male player the same thing.

tritium

Did someone say he asked the male players too? If so how is it sexism?

murpho999

backspin. wrote: »

It was a ridiculous question to ask, what was he thinking.

He was thinking "Can she twerk?".

duffman13

professore wrote: »

DJs are up there with rappers as the lowest form of life in the music industry. Well known that the best way to get lots of sex as a man is to be a DJ so hardly surprising they are sexist. Then add in the fact he's French, who in general are one of the most sexist nations on the planet then you have the perfect storm.

Who thought it a good idea to have a DJ, especially a French one, present this show. That's the real question.

Generalisation and casual racism is fine but sexism isn't. Great post

What he said was stupid, similar to the above post

Zorya

Grab All Association wrote: »

Women ... fart just as much as men do.

What!!! :eek: This is an absolutely outrageous remark! :mad: :mad:

Cato the Elder

Right, can we get an answer on whether or not he was talking about this with the men as well? Until we know that, there's no point in discussing it.


Furthermore, I consider that Carthage must be destroyed.

Guy:Incognito

Grab All Association wrote: »

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Women fart just as much as men do.

That's a filthy, untrue accusation.

Only skeevy stoners fart.

RobbieTheRobber

antodeco wrote: »

That poster has a right to their own opinion in fairness. I actually agree with them. If its potentially sexist towards women it's seen as the devil's tongue. However, if there is a potential for negativity towards women (in this case "man-made" it's never allowed to be discussed.

Don't get me wrong, I 100% agree that Solvieg should never has asked this but is it true he asked EVERYONE? Reading different reports on it.

So are you saying David attenborough was being sexist by using the term "man" to describe human activity?


man
/man/
noun
1.
an adult human male.
"a small man with mischievous eyes"
synonyms: male, adult male, gentleman, youth; More
2.
a human being of either sex; a person.
"God cares for all men"
synonyms: human being, human, person, mortal, individual, personage, soul
"all men are mortal"

Grayson

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Silly comment alright, it was out of place and she deserved better, but sadly this is also absolute cannon fodder for media outlets like RTE and Newstalk who love to do a nice bit of man hating on a daily basis.

He's apologised and she accepted, let's move on.

but to be fair, of the 50 gazillion threads started by people being outraged, this is the only one that isn't aimed at a daily mail reader.

Still though, why would anyone ask that? And why would they think it was appropriate to ask that? Whatever about sexism, that DJ is a fecking idiot.

razorblunt

Sleazy, not entirely sexist.
Strange though, in his apology he mentioned it was "due to his poor English and lack of knowledge on English". You were speaking French, to a Norwegian at an event in France you numpty.

The outrage is a bit mad all the same though, look at all the articles drummed up now, when the vast, vast majority had never heard of the woman prior to this.

Such a shame it ruined her moment though.

ewc78

How do you know it ruined her moment? Has she said it did?

Slattsy

But of course, they all have lovely bottoms.

Harry Palmr

As much as this fella was a total turnip the big question for me is why do these football/sport awards jamborees always seem to feature moronic DJs', singers, dancers and other entertainment non entities?

wakka12

Did he want her to start twerking for them or something? I feel like it just came out the wrong way, like it was meant to come out much more light hearted than it did

It just came across as more akward than offensive to me, the norwegian girl even said in an interview she didnt really think of it as sexual comment or harassment until after the show was over

razorblunt

ewc78 wrote: »

How do you know it ruined her moment? Has she said it did?

I am Ada!

ewc78

razorblunt wrote: »

I am Ada!

Can you twerk?

antodeco

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

So are you saying David attenborough was being sexist by using the term "man" to describe human activity?


man
/man/
noun
1.
an adult human male.
"a small man with mischievous eyes"
synonyms: male, adult male, gentleman, youth; More
2.
a human being of either sex; a person.
"God cares for all men"
synonyms: human being, human, person, mortal, individual, personage, soul
"all men are mortal"

I think you are arguing your own point here. Look up the definition of female and male and man and woman. They are defined as they are, yet people go on about it should be gender neutral. I think the irony was lost on you. It 100% should be mankind. 100% male and female. 100% whatever as defined already. I was being ironic by saying surely it should be "person made" and not "man made" if you go according to modern society

RobbieTheRobber

ewc78 wrote: »

Can you twerk?

No

RobbieTheRobber

antodeco wrote: »

I think you are arguing your own point here. Look up the definition of female and male and man and woman. They are defined as they are, yet people go on about it should be gender neutral. I think the irony was lost on you. It 100% should be mankind. 100% male and female. 100% whatever as defined already. I was being ironic by saying surely it should be "person made" and not "man made" if you go according to modern society

I'm not arguing any point, I asked a question in relation to your post, which you didn't answer!
Do you think mr Attenboroughs remark was sexist?

Also You asked me to look up the definition of man, which was the definition i provided in response. Do you need me to look it up again, has it changed?

engiweirdo

razorblunt wrote: »

ewc78 wrote: »

How do you know it ruined her moment? Has she said it did?

I am Ada!

#MeToo

Omackeral

engiweirdo wrote: »

Appalling behaviour tbh, but soccer so what would you expect from a pig but a grunt...

Yeah. Look at these scumbag football fans throwing teddy bears down to visiting sick children. Disgraceful. For a comment bemoaning ignorance, you're showing enough of it yourself.

professore

professore wrote: »

DJs are up there with rappers as the lowest form of life in the music industry. Well known that the best way to get lots of sex as a man is to be a DJ so hardly surprising they are sexist. Then add in the fact he's French, who in general are one of the most sexist nations on the planet then you have the perfect storm.

Who thought it a good idea to have a DJ, especially a French one, present this show. That's the real question.

Upping your game there, Professore, and I had thought it couldn't be done.

Gimme A Pound

I don't think it's disrespectful to women or that malice was meant - it was just a dopey moment.

Grayson

Itzel Muscular Ukulele wrote: »

I don't think it's disrespectful to women or that malice was meant - it was just a dopey moment.

Disagree with the first part. I can guarentee if I started asking women in work that question they'd be pretty offended.

Deebles McBeebles

Lets hang all French DJs.

C'mere Guetta ya b*stard!

engiweirdo

Omackeral wrote: »

engiweirdo wrote: »

Appalling behaviour tbh, but soccer so what would you expect from a pig but a grunt...

Yeah. Look at these scumbag football fans throwing teddy bears down to visiting sick children. Disgraceful. For a comment bemoaning ignorance, you're showing enough of it yourself.

Now if only I knew how to use the google I know I could show football fans throwing things that arent teddy bears at people who may or may not be children. Darn.

Gimme A Pound

Grayson wrote: »

Disagree with the first part. I can guarentee if I started asking women in work that question they'd be pretty offended.

Depends on which women and what context. The guy was being an eejit but I don't know about offensive.

jackofalltrades

Pure cringe. How was he expecting a positive response from that question.