Is "Have ya gorra shmoke" optional?

DS86DS

Been as I am I have the horrible habit of smoking. Along my daily ramblings around the City Centre, I am often hit with the question from one of the army of the undead...

"Have ya gorra shmoke bud"

Now in my naivety, I believed this was optional. After all, when the car insurance man on the phone asks "have you got a method of payment during such and such a week"........it's generally inferred that it's not an optional question of giving or not.


However, I could have sworn that not offering someone a cigarette was optional.....though the "sorry it's my last one" line blurts out instead of a flat out no.

But maybe I have not put much thought into this.....am I wrong in treating this any different when it comes to the old cigarette question than I would my insurance man?

Perhaps unknown to myself, I am been extremely ungrateful, as are any other smokers who do not whip out that smoke and hand it over to the fine gentleman. After all, when you're met with

"It's only a bleedin smoke ya c*nt"


You start to wonder....am I meeting all of life's obligations. I pay my taxes, always make returns in insurance and bills........but perhaps I am not fulfilling all that needs to be fulfilled.....

The question of "am I truly meeting my obligations to society" rears its head.

enricoh

I was asked for a lend of e50 in the petrol station yesterday. I admired his gumption to aim high! Said gentleman was well cut at 12 in the morning and was investing in his own fags believe it or not!
The eastern European bird behind the counter didnt comprehend 20 blue much to his distain!!

Dravokivich

Someone almost started on me once because I wouldn't let them have a go off my cigar. His friends ended up pulling him away from me when they saw I was getting a bit short with his nonsense.

Sure how much are those things now? If you don't drop a Euro a beggar every now and then, why would you pass one out under the guise of a cigarette?

Teddy Daniels

“I don’t smoke “ blows smoke on ruffian.

Fr_Dougal

So you have a spare smoke?

Let me check, no, there was 20 in the box, exactly what I needed for myself.

OldMrBrennan83

I find a 'no' and not caring does the trick.

SEPT 23 1989

Slips house keys slowly through fingers

klaaaz

Poor privileged you, having to donate a paltry cigarette to one of our downtrodden. The heart really bleeds for your situation!

guitarhappy

klaaaz wrote: »

Poor privileged you, having to donate a paltry cigarette to one of our downtrodden. The heart really bleeds for your situation!

Maybe you need to donate your blood at a for profit blood bank and then give your payment over to the downtrodden to buy their smokes. Just trying to help make the world a better place...

Roger Hassenforder

Got off the metro in a suburb with my buddy, after a few too many scoops late one evening. Big Irish drunk heads on us. As we move out of the station, he lights up a Rothmans and inhales gratefully.

Two French youths detach themselves from a small group of their equivalent of our grey tracksuit scrotes (a bit better dressed)...
Monseiur scrote approaches my buddy with a
"ave you a cigarette for me"?

My buddy (Im glad it was in English, because he hasn't a word of French) takes a deep drag, stares at the surrender monkey, and replies
"how does go fcuk yourself sound?"
i nearly fell over laughin, helpless at the kicking we were about to get.

But non, they decided we were clearly mad, and left us pass with a few muttered "putain" and "branleur".


Anyway, a "fcuk off is usually your best bet.

NSAman

Live in MidWest, where no one asks for a ciggie cause they are 7 bucks a pack

In New York. Chicago or LA EVERYONE asks you... 15 bucks a pack

BBFAN

DS86DS wrote: »

Been as I am I have the horrible habit of smoking. Along my daily ramblings around the City Centre, I am often hit with the question from one of the army of the undead...

"Have ya gorra shmoke bud"

Now in my naivety, I believed this was optional. After all, when the car insurance man on the phone asks "have you got a method of payment during such and such a week"........it's generally inferred that it's not an optional question of giving or not.


However, I could have sworn that not offering someone a cigarette was optional.....though the "sorry it's my last one" line blurts out instead of a flat out no.

But maybe I have not put much thought into this.....am I wrong in treating this any different when it comes to the old cigarette question than I would my insurance man?

Perhaps unknown to myself, I am been extremely ungrateful, as are any other smokers who do not whip out that smoke and hand it over to the fine gentleman. After all, when you're met with

"It's only a bleedin smoke ya c*nt"


You start to wonder....am I meeting all of life's obligations. I pay my taxes, always make returns in insurance and bills........but perhaps I am not fulfilling all that needs to be fulfilled.....

The question of "am I truly meeting my obligations to society" rears its head.

Have you actually started a thread about someone asking you for a smoke?

What's the problem?

Just give them a smoke, no skin off your nose and helps them get through the next half hour of hell. What's the problem?

OldMrBrennan83

BBFAN wrote: »

Have you actually started a thread about someone asking you for a smoke?

What's the problem?

Just give them a smoke, no skin off your nose and helps them get through the next half hour of hell. What's the problem?

Because the scobey ****bags should buy their own smokes.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I don't smoke but when asked by lowlifes 'Have ya gorra shmoke?' I politely respond... 'fcuk off and buy yer own' Havent had anyone challenge me on it yet so its obviously an appropriate answer in the circumstances.

Anesthetize

Being asked for "the lend of a smoke" always intrigues me. Loaning a cigarette to a scumbag implies that they will give it back when they are finished with it. This is hard to grasp since as a cigarette is smoked, it ceases to exist, and is no longer possible to return in its original form.

BBFAN

Patww79 wrote: »

Because the scobey ****bags should buy their own smokes.

If they had 11.50 they probably wouldn't be begging love.

OldMrBrennan83

BBFAN wrote: »

If they had 11.50 they probably wouldn't be begging love.

Then they shouldn't be smoking.

BBFAN

Anesthetize wrote: »

Being asked for "the lend of a smoke" always intrigues me. Loaning a cigarette to a scumbag implies that they will give it back when they are finished with it. This is hard to grasp since as a cigarette is smoked, it ceases to exist, and is no longer possible to return in its original form.

It's a turn of phrase, get over it.

Anesthetize

BBFAN wrote: »

It's a turn of phrase, get over it.

Well duh.

BBFAN

Patww79 wrote: »

Then they shouldn't be smoking.

Oh Pat, you really are hilarious. Like giving up smoking is high on your list of priorities if you're living on the streets. :rolleyes:

But I think you know that already, you just think you're edgy by saying "ah you shouldn't be smoking you scumbag".

Lone Stone

i remember some lad on a bike stopped and asked me for a shmoke pal, i was like sorry dont smoke pal.. he went red and yelled me YOU DO SMOKE YOU ****EN DO SMOKE YOUR DEAD YOUR ****EN DEAD and then rode of on his bike really fast.. that was just another weird day in kilbarrack.

OldMrBrennan83

BBFAN wrote: »

Oh Pat, you really are hilarious. Like giving up smoking is high on your list of priorities if you're living on the streets. :rolleyes:

But I think you know that already, you just think you're edgy by saying "ah you shouldn't be smoking you scumbag".

Actually I just tell them a simple no. Because they're my fags, I bought them, and I don't want to give them one. How they feel about that isn't my concern.

Real edgy.

BBFAN

Patww79 wrote: »

Actually I just tell them a simple no. Because they're my fags, I bought them, and I don't want to give them one. How they feel about that isn't my concern.

Real edgy.

Good on you. I hope you feel great going home with your 20 smokes. Such a big man, fair play, you've save yourself 57 cent. I'd say that gives you a great nights sleep.

Sure I made sure I got home with all my cigarettes, I'm a great man. :rolleyes:

OldMrBrennan83

BBFAN wrote: »

Good on you. I hope you feel great going home with your 20 smokes. Such a big man, fair play, you've save yourself 57 cent. I'd say that gives you a great nights sleep.

Sure I made sure I got home with all my cigarettes, I'm a great man. :rolleyes:

How would I make it home with all my cigarettes if I smoked them all? I don't carry them around as an ornament.

BBFAN

Patww79 wrote: »

How would I make it home with all my cigarettes if I smoked them all? I don't carry them around as an ornament.

Great argument. :rolleyes:

OldMrBrennan83

BBFAN wrote: »

Great argument. :rolleyes:

What? It's highly unlikely I'd bring them all home. Why would I have them in the first place then?

the_syco

Depending on the situation, and how easily I think I can defend myself should the situation go sideways, my response can be one of the following;
"It's an e-cig"
"No"
"F**k off"
"Get a job"
"F**k off and get a job, you worthless c**t"

BBFAN

An awful lot of scabby sad people on here tonight.

the_syco

Anesthetize wrote: »

Being asked for "the lend of a smoke" always intrigues me. Loaning a cigarette to a scumbag implies that they will give it back when they are finished with it. This is hard to grasp since as a cigarette is smoked, it ceases to exist, and is no longer possible to return in its original form.

It's like something being sold for €9.99

You know it's €10, but as it €9.99 it sounds like you're not getting ripped off. Likewise, having a "lend" of something makes people not subconsciously put up barriers, and people give the person a smoke.

the_syco

BBFAN wrote: »

An awful lot of scabby sad people on here tonight.

My taxes pay for their Social Welfare. They can save, and buy their own smokes.

Franz Von Peppercorn

BBFAN wrote: »

Good on you. I hope you feel great going home with your 20 smokes. Such a big man, fair play, you've save yourself 57 cent. I'd say that gives you a great nights sleep.

Sure I made sure I got home with all my cigarettes, I'm a great man. :rolleyes:

But what if he passed twenty people looking for smokes?

BBFAN

the_syco wrote: »

Depending on the situation, and how easily I think I can defend myself should the situation go sideways, my response can be one of the following;
"It's an e-cig"
"No"
"F**k off"
"Get a job"
"F**k off and get a job, you worthless c**t"

So you'd be comfortable with calling another human being a worthless ****?

RocketRaccoon

BBFAN wrote: »

An awful lot of scabby sad people on here tonight.

Go and buy a box and walk around the city passing them around one at a time like some sort of hero.

BBFAN

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

But what if he passed twenty people looking for smokes?

So what? 11.50 out of a weeks wages? Fcuk all in my opinion.

Anyone who asks me for a smoke gets one because I can afford it.

No skin off my nose, no sleepless night tonight. I sleep in a very comfy bed thank god.

blindside88

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Go and buy a box and walk around the city passing them around one at a time like some sort of hero.

I was actually about to post that. It’s not scabby to not want to give away something you’ve worked hard to afford. Whether that’s cigarettes, money etc.

If someone wants to give it away that’s fine but it’s in no way scabby to refuse

RocketRaccoon

BBFAN wrote: »

So what? 11.50 out of a weeks wages? Fcuk all in my opinion.

Anyone who asks me for a smoke gets one because I can afford it.

No skin off my nose, no sleepless night tonight. I sleep in a very comfy bed thank god.

Have you a nosebleed that high up there on that horse?

BBFAN

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Have you a nosebleed that high up there on that horse?

I'm on no high horse. I've been in both situations, where I've had plenty of smokes an where I've been dying for a smoke so I understand both situations, that's all.

OldMrBrennan83

BBFAN wrote: »

So what? 11.50 out of a weeks wages? Fcuk all in my opinion.

Anyone who asks me for a smoke gets one because I can afford it.

No skin off my nose, no sleepless night tonight. I sleep in a very comfy bed thank god.

I'm sure everyone else is tossing and turning at the thoughts of not giving away what they've bought.

SEPT 23 1989

Would never see a fellow smoker stuck but if I see someone working the street they can shag off

BBFAN

blindside88 wrote: »

I was actually about to post that. It’s not scabby to not want to give away something you’ve worked hard to afford. Whether that’s cigarettes, money etc.

If someone wants to give it away that’s fine but it’s in no way scabby to refuse

Oh give it a break, You've had to work 15 minutes at the very most to afford a smoke and that's if you're on minimum wage. If you can afford to smoke you can afford to give them away by the very logic of most on this thread.

BBFAN

Patww79 wrote: »

I'm sure everyone else is tossing and turning at the thoughts of not giving away what they've bought.

Well I certainly would be if I refused ANYONE who asked me for a cigarette.

Franz Von Peppercorn

BBFAN wrote: »

So what? 11.50 out of a weeks wages? Fcuk all in my opinion.

Anyone who asks me for a smoke gets one because I can afford it.

No skin off my nose, no sleepless night tonight. I sleep in a very comfy bed thank god.

But then he’d have none. He’d have to walk back to the shop again. Buy twenty more. Then pass twenty guys again.

Doesn’t scale.

the_syco

BBFAN wrote: »

So you'd be comfortable with calling another human being a worthless ****?

Yeah.

Actually, the funny thing is, when I smoked rollies, and if I offered to roll the respectful homeless people a rollie, 90% of them would say no, and keep walking.

BBFAN

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

But then he’d have none. He’d have to walk back to the shop again. Buy twenty more. Then pass twenty guys again.

Doesn’t scale.

Nah, a real smoker always has 40 on hand and would never pass 20 beggars either so your analogy is bull****.

Anesthetize

the_syco wrote: »

Yeah.

Actually, the funny thing is, when I smoked rollies, and if I offered to roll the respectful homeless people a rollie, 90% of them would say no, and keep walking.

When I switched to rollies barely anyone has asked me for a smoke, because they know it's going to be too much hassle for them. Only one person so far has had the cheek to ask me to roll them one.

BBFAN

the_syco wrote: »

Yeah.

Actually, the funny thing is, when I smoked rollies, and if I offered to roll the respectful homeless people a rollie, 90% of them would say no, and keep walking.

You didn't offer a rollie to anyone so don't tell lies.

lawred2

BBFAN wrote: »

Good on you. I hope you feel great going home with your 20 smokes. Such a big man, fair play, you've save yourself 57 cent. I'd say that gives you a great nights sleep.

Sure I made sure I got home with all my cigarettes, I'm a great man. :rolleyes:

What exactly is your problem?

OldMrBrennan83

BBFAN wrote: »

Nah, a real smoker always has 40 on hand and would never pass 20 beggars either so your analogy is bull****.

You could easily pass 20 scobes in Dublin.

BBFAN

lawred2 wrote: »

What exactly is your problem?

My problem is that ANYONE refusing a smoke to another addict is a dickhead. What's yours?

BBFAN

Patww79 wrote: »

You could easily pass 20 scobes in Dublin.

You must do some walking. Bull****e. :rolleyes:

RocketRaccoon

BBFAN wrote: »

Oh give it a break, You've had to work 15 minutes at the very most to afford a smoke and that's if you're on minimum wage. If you can afford to smoke you can afford to give them away by the very logic of most on this thread.

If you can't afford to smoke, you shouldn't smoke. And stop trying to sponge off other people.