We'r doomed

Following another thread thread but it should really be in AH, what going on with the we'r doomed brigade, in this case it the multinationals they can't understand why they are here( because Ireland is a banana republic ). The multi nationals are going to be pulling out any day now( being saying this since the late 90s ). There are lots of versions of the above, is it just an extremity negative view of their own country or just a curmudgeon type personality.

mariaalice

mariaalice wrote: »

Following another thread thread but it should really be in AH, what going on with the we'r doomed brigade, in this case it the multinationals they can't understand why they are here( because Ireland is a banana republic ). The multi nationals are going to be pulling out any day now( being saying this since the late ninnies). There are lots of versions of the above, is it just an extremity negative view of their own country or just a curmudgeon type personality.

I agree with the ninnies part.

whiskeyman

They're like that in the hope that one day they can turn around smugly and say...


'i told you so'.

Noveight

Some people seem to take pleasure from assigning blame.

Shaking ones head with a "tut, tut, tut" while being mildly scandalised is usually easier than finding, or God forbid, creating something to be positive about.

Roger Hassenforder

I'd be more a three-ply man, i hate "digital breakthrough", common with the one-ply, and cheaper two-ply.
Try and avoid aloe vera moistened/imbued(?) bum fodder in case of thrush in my hole, but if someone could come up something with preparation H, i'd be all over that.

Gimme A Pound

Curmudgeonly personality.

They know full well that life in this country is among the best in the world.

They don't know what a banana republic is either.

Esel

I thought this was about the We'r tribe in Mongolia. Disappoint.

The Rape of Lucretia

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I agree with the ninnies part.

Me too. Ninnies is such a great word, yet so underused these days.
Snowflakes, many of them very much classic ninnies, probably take offence to it or something.

TheRiverman

I thought this was another report from that great instutute of doom and gloom the ESRI.

dxhound2005

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Me too. Ninnies is such a great word, yet so underused these days.
Snowflakes, many of them very much classic ninnies, probably take offence to it or something.

Back in the day all ninnies were knock-kneed.

realitykeeper

mariaalice wrote: »

Following another thread thread but it should really be in AH, what going on with the we'r doomed brigade, in this case it the multinationals they can't understand why they are here( because Ireland is a banana republic ). The multi nationals are going to be pulling out any day now( being saying this since the late 90s ). There are lots of versions of the above, is it just an extremity negative view of their own country or just a curmudgeon type personality.

Obviously it is great for the economy to have a lot of multinationals here but given the level of debt in this country, we are totally dependent on that sector for our continued solvency. That is not healthy but it is how things stand. So, they should be encouraged to stay and to keep coming.

As a long term strategy, the nations debts should be paid down a the economy re-orientated in such as way as to encourage the growth of cottage industries and the indigenous manufacturing sector. This should have the long term strategy of creating more large indigenous companies which could branch out overseas.

The single best thing we Irish could do for our economy and by extension, our children and our environment and the future is to work for lower pay. Cheap labour is wonderful, imagine a country where a lot of work gets done! (no, I am not an employer.) I think this strategy should be coupled with restrictions on foreigners buying property here with the exception of companies that are investing for the express purpose of setting up a real business which will employ a lot of people. In other words, I propose a very different type of economy than the one we have. For example, I think vulture funds should not be buying up toxic debt. The economy I envisage would allow banks to fail, and it would be an economy that would be prepared so as not be at the mercy of foreign creditors when the banks fail.

Some businesses should be prevented from starting new operations here, like breweries, distilleries and casinos. The focus of foreign companies should be on export orientated businesses rather than those established exclusively for the domestic market.

After all, we want foreign companies with revenue streams that bring money in and not those that source their revenue from the domestic market. Come to think of it, if there is a hard BREXIT, we could and should tax British retailers here more than we tax Irish retailers, precisely for the aforementioned reason, they take their revenue from the domestic market unlike pfizers or Apple which tend to export most of what they make here and consequently they bring money from outside the country, into the country.

As this stand, when Ireland wants money it borrows it! That is not the right way to get money into the country!

Water John

I thought from the thread title that this was about the Carry On films of Kenneth Williams.

ygolometsipe

TheValeyard

ygolometsipe wrote: »

OldMrBrennan83

What's a We'r?

SEPT 23 1989

This is boom time talk

ygolometsipe

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

TheValeyard

ygolometsipe wrote: »

ygolometsipe

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

4068ac1elhodqr

Here for the sunny weather only.

TheValeyard

ygolometsipe wrote: »

ygolometsipe

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

TheValeyard

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ygolometsipe

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

prinzeugen

Cat memes. The reason the internet was invented!

TheValeyard

ygolometsipe wrote: »

looksee

Yay, years since we had a cat thread! Can someone add 'with added cats' to the title please?

dxhound2005

realitykeeper wrote: »

As a long term strategy, the nations debts should be paid down a the economy re-orientated in such as way as to encourage the growth of cottage industries and the indigenous manufacturing sector. This should have the long term strategy of creating more large indigenous companies which could branch out overseas.

The EU has a target of 60% debt to GDP, and we are close to that. In the same way that some inflation is good for the economy, a certain amount of debt is also good. Every country in the world operates on that basis, and capitalism would collapse otherwise.

NIMAN

There are definitely a lot of moaners and begrudgers in Ireland, who often repeat "this is a ****h0le of a country", or "we live in a 3rd world country".

If they actually got up and moved around other countries and actually go to parts of the 3rd world, they would actually see why Ireland continually ranks near the top of great places to live.

jon1981

Will there still be avocados?

biko

mariaalice wrote: »

we'r

looksee

biko wrote: »

Wut? Checks image. Oh, that's a bit unsocial. Rather have cats.

realitykeeper

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The EU has a target of 60% debt to GDP, and we are close to that. In the same way that some inflation is good for the economy, a certain amount of debt is also good. Every country in the world operates on that basis, and capitalism would collapse otherwise.

Don`t believe them. Inflation is always bad. The reason they say a little is good is because they want it to be a little higher than the ultra low rates the ECB give to banks and governments. Ordinary people don`t get those low rates as the people on variable rate mortgages will tell you.
GDP is not an accurate indicator of an economy.

Ray Palmer

realitykeeper wrote: »

Some businesses should be prevented from starting new operations here, like breweries, distilleries and casinos. The focus of foreign companies should be on export orientated businesses rather than those established exclusively for the domestic market.

You seem to have a deep flaw in understanding economics and what is domestic industries.

https://www.abfi.ie/Sectors/ABFI/ABFI.nsf/vPagesWhiskey/Industry_in_Ireland~Whiskey_industry_in_Ireland~exports-and-growth!OpenDocument

We export a lot of alcohol from our distilleries. We are trying to establish Irish Whiskey as the world wide whiskey and beat down the inferior scotch that is made in cheaper process.

Not many casinos opening but but there were some proposed and they were to increase tourism and o make Ireland a destination for some very rich people.

As for multinationals in Ireland many are providing services to Irish businesses. The idea that they are making all their money from other countries is wrong. If the multinationals weren't here we would have indigenous companies doing lots of the work. We do also have also indigenous companies competing internationally. If the multinationals left there would still be a lot of work about and they wouldn't be able to take the work from them.

Ireland is the leader or a big player in some parts of industries like air plane leasing.

Many people have no idea of the Irish economy and actually how we are more than some puppy lead around.