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Want to leave job immediately but contract says I have to give one month's notice

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    You say you struggle with the maths but even in finance anything manual is been taken out of employees hands. Macros and formulas and cross checks going on all the time in the background.

    You might use a calculator during the day but nobody will be asking for leaving certificate formulas which I sure have forgotten anyway. And that's finance and you are in a different department

    Give a little longer OP if you can. I left a job where everyday was a misery and I left with nothing lined up but I stuck for 6 months so I could spin it as a 6 month contract. Total lie on my CV as it was permanent but sure gotta be done

    Even try a week more OP and see how you feel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hey everyone, so I'm a little over the week into the job and just wanted to update:

    Unfortunately I still want to quit. I didn't realise before joining the sheer amount of figures I would use (even speaking about prices and percentages to customers).

    Today was probably the worst day.

    My colleagues were trying to explain to me about a certain discount that customers are entitled to when they purchase a particular item. I couldn't understand at all and needless to say I guessed wrong on every question.

    My colleagues seemed really exasperated as to where I was getting my figures from (in order to use calculator you need to know whicn figures to look for) and said to me: "No, No, why would that be the figure? Why would you think that, where are you getting that from?"

    In the end I just told them I understood because it was easier.

    Every morning since I started I have a feeling of dread. I don't have anything else lined up so I feel I have to stay in it for the time being and endure being miserable for maybe 6 months.

    Every day seems harder and harder and I don't know what to do.

    Our Christmas party is also next Tuesday and I don't know whether to go or not. I really don't want to but I'm expected to attend and I feel like it will reflect badly on me.

    On one hand, at the moment claiming JSA is actually more appealing than staying in the job but the one months notice is also stressing me out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,048 ✭✭✭.......


    Ive two pieces of advice for you.

    1. Leave the job, its not worth the stress levels.
    2. Work on your maths skills independently, you need them in adult life and not just in jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    OP I know you mentioned the job was in sales - is this an area that you'd like to continue in? Ignorning this particular job just in general. If it is, then I would also recommend that you'll need to work on the maths skills part yourself as all sales roles will involve an element of this. Larger than you might expect in fact.

    As for JSA - if you quite, you won't be entitled to this straight away so you need to factor that in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    Steal all their pens for the month.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Hey there.

    I just want to say that I feel you should hand in your notice ASAP.
    I can hear your anxious thoughts and stress in your latest message and no job is worth that.
    As for a previous poster saying that if you quit a job then the JSA will be disqualified for a few weeks, this unfortunately is true. Have the new job registered you with revenue yet and have you told social welfare of the job?
    My two cents would be.. it's Christmas season. Retail are crying out for temporary staff.
    Get yourself to a bar or cafe or shop this weekend with CV and look for temporary work to Christmas on the tills or stacking shelves or waiting tables.
    Then you have that to fall back on, speak to your boss Monday and say you are leaving and that you know the role isn't for you and it's best you leave ASAP before they invest any more time in you and vice versa.
    After Christmas you should maybe go to a career coach and assess where you want to be in your job and maybe do some one to one tuition in maths.
    You won't even need to put that short stint in sales on your CV.
    Good luck!

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Steal all their pens for the month.

    Mod note:

    dhaughton99, unhelpful posts are against the PI charter. Please read the charter before posting again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,005 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    @Purple Mountain I REALLY want to but I'm worried at how my boss will react and also the one month notice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I've learned many lessons in this life and I'm a good bit your senior but one valuable lesson was.. in a job you are only a cog in a wheel.
    If you hand in your notice on Monday by Monday week you won't be a thought in anyone's head in there.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Okay OP I can feel see your stress and really feel for you so it depends on a couple of things what you do next:

    1. Do you have any bills that have to be paid? If you manage just on your wage you will unfortunately have to stick it out until you find something else.

    2. Do you think you can learn after work the maths that you need to? As another poster mentioned, any job in sales will involve some maths so you do need to get your head around this to a certain extent.

    Anyway, either way, just know that this will pass. I've had some disastrous jobs in the past, even been sacked, but I've learned a lesson from every single one.

    Can you just hang in until the Christmas break so that your Christmas expenses are covered?

    Don't worry about the company or the boss, they won't give a **** about you when you're gone. Only worry about yourself and what you have to do to survive.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    OP I am going to teach you something. I assume you can add and subtract numbers?

    Using a calculator makes % discounts easy. Say you have to work out 20% discount on €1000.

    Get out a calculator (or the one on your phone) and try it. There is a % button on every calculator.

    Type 1000 x 20 %. Press equals. That's your discount (€200).

    So the discounted price is 1000 - 200 = 800.

    That's it. That's all there is to it.

    Also rule of thumb 10% means knock a zero off. E. G 10% of 500 is 50. 20% is double that (100). 5% is half it (25) etc. Makes it easy to work out in your head.

    I 1000% agree with the others. You need to work on these basic skills. There are some great adult literacy courses out there, they also do numeracy. My neighbour teaches one of them and she has helped so many people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    if sales are your future then help with figures would probably help.
    if sales arent where you want to be then you need to make a decision on what you actually want to do.

    i know exactly what its like to be doing a job i actually hadnt the ability fir or interest in.
    the days are endless. the feeling in your stomach the night before work is truly uncomfortable.
    the sheer misery is indescribable.

    no job imo is worth that.
    you reference the months notice so often. is this really legal? do you really need to give that much notice seeing as youve only worked a short time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    professore wrote: »
    OP I am going to teach you something. I assume you can add and subtract numbers?

    Using a calculator makes % discounts easy. Say you have to work out 20% discount on €1000.

    Get out a calculator (or the one on your phone) and try it. There is a % button on every calculator.

    Type 1000 x 20 %. Press equals. That's your discount (€200).

    So the discounted price is 1000 - 200 = 800.

    That's it. That's all there is to it.

    Also rule of thumb 10% means knock a zero off. E. G 10% of 500 is 50. 20% is double that (100). 5% is half it (25) etc. Makes it easy to work out in your head.

    I 1000% agree with the others. You need to work on these basic skills. There are some great adult literacy courses out there, they also do numeracy. My neighbour teaches one of them and she has helped so many people.

    It's not always as easy as that in sales though. Sometimes the % are awkward as it's well it's 10% on the first €1k if you buy this product mix and then an additional 2.5% off the next €500 if the product mix stays the same.

    OP if you do want to stay in sales, it really would be worth doing some maths course yourself to help with things and also just to help with general things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    professore wrote: »
    OP I am going to teach you something. I assume you can add and subtract numbers?

    Using a calculator makes % discounts easy. Say you have to work out 20% discount on €1000.

    Get out a calculator (or the one on your phone) and try it. There is a % button on every calculator.

    Type 1000 x 20 %. Press equals. That's your discount (€200).

    So the discounted price is 1000 - 200 = 800.

    That's it. That's all there is to it.

    Also rule of thumb 10% means knock a zero off. E. G 10% of 500 is 50. 20% is double that (100). 5% is half it (25) etc. Makes it easy to work out in your head.

    I 1000% agree with the others. You need to work on these basic skills. There are some great adult literacy courses out there, they also do numeracy. My neighbour teaches one of them and she has helped so many people.

    That's quite a patronising post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    BBFAN wrote: »
    That's quite a patronising post.

    It wasn't meant to be patronising. If the OP genuinely doesn't understand percentages, then this should help him / her. If they want to take it as patronising then that's their choice.

    In life in general there is no shame in not knowing something. There is only shame in pretending to know something and as a result remaining ignorant.

    The OP clearly has very good spelling and grammar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Being good at spelling and grammar doesn't mean the OP will be good at maths. Sometimes jobs like these can be a step too far for people, no matter how hard they try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭Emme


    OP this link might be helpful. It outlines the Minimum Terms of Notice and Terms of Employment Act 1973-2005.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/starting_work_and_changing_job/changing_job/giving_notice.html

    If you do everything to the letter of the law nobody will have any comeback.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    Being good at spelling and grammar doesn't mean the OP will be good at maths. Sometimes jobs like these can be a step too far for people, no matter how hard they try.

    I get that, but from the OPs own description, it seems they got left behind in maths, so there is a good chance they can catch up with a little help. Recent estimates put the amount of people in this category in one subject or another as high as 25%.

    Maybe the OP has some medical condition such as dyscalculia that means they will never be able to learn this but at the very least they should try to find out.

    OP I apologise if I've offended you in any way, it was not my intention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    professore wrote: »
    It wasn't meant to be patronising. If the OP genuinely doesn't understand percentages, then this should help him / her. If they want to take it as patronising then that's their choice.

    In life in general there is no shame in not knowing something. There is only shame in pretending to know something and as a result remaining ignorant.

    The OP clearly has very good spelling and grammar.

    Apologies so, maybe I took it up wrong but I think most people would know how to take 10% away from something it's when the calculations become more complicated that people run into trouble.

    But as I've said in a previous post the majority of people rely on calculators and Excel to do this now. I say this as an accountant who has to have one or the other to hand. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,048 ✭✭✭.......


    Im excellent at maths but I use a calculator app on my phone to do any calculations I need to for work.

    I think most people do.


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