Happy International Men's Day!

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joe40 wrote: »

The way I see is that the vast majority of people (male and female) in our society are non violent, and law abiding.

A small percentage are not and an even smaller percentage are capable of extreme violence. Of this cohort of our population, I'm guessing less than 1%, the vast majority are Men.

I do hate blanket terms like "Men" when talking about a particular behaviour as if all men are homogenous, and like minded. Among the male population 50% of the human race there is massive variation. (As there is among women)

in my post you quoted you'll see that I said "on average"....I even put it in all caps.

Outlaw Pete

Men are awesome.


https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1061711397921402882
https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1060506416903942144

Badly Drunk Boy

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

I did not know that! You would think evolution would have meant it would only happen when there's a need and not just all the time.

Adding womb jumpers to my Dragon's Den list.

Well, I've already bagsied the name Womb Warmers™.

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Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Men are awesome.


https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1061711397921402882
https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1060506416903942144

that one with the shooting, that is pure biology in action

Deebles McBeebles

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Well, I've already bagsied the name Womb Warmers™.

Hoisted by my own petard!

joe40

suicide_circus wrote: »

in my post you quoted you'll see that I said "on average"....I even put it in all caps.

I meant to say I wasn't contradicting your post, just elaborating slightly.
I don't think the average male is more violent, more that the cohort of people that are capable of violence, especially extreme violence, are predominantly male to a large extent.

eviltimeban

demanufactured

Bullshyte.
We don't need this crap, women don't need international women's day either.
Bullshyte...bullshyte.....bullshyte.

Plopsu

suicide_circus wrote: »

men are "under represented" in primary school teaching roles for the same reason they are "over represented" in prison populations - that is, directly proportionally to their disinterest in teaching young children and to their propensity to commit crimes.

Any thoughts on why men's disinterest in primary teaching has skyrocketed in the past thirty or forty years? There was no shortage when I was in school.

Technocentral

Plopsu wrote: »

suicide_circus wrote: »

men are "under represented" in primary school teaching roles for the same reason they are "over represented" in prison populations - that is, directly proportionally to their disinterest in teaching young children and to their propensity to commit crimes.

Any thoughts on why men's disinterest in primary teaching has skyrocketed in the past thirty or forty years? There was no shortage when I was in school.

Better salary/status in private sector?

fattymuatty

Plopsu wrote: »

Any thoughts on why men's disinterest in primary teaching has skyrocketed in the past thirty or forty years? There was no shortage when I was in school.

Because teaching used to come with a certain status in the community, the local teacher was looked up to. Now teaching doesn't come with any status.

demanufactured

fattymuatty wrote: »

Because teaching used to come with a certain status in the community, the local teacher was looked up to. Now teaching doesn't come with any status.

Plus dealing with other people's little shytes.

Mrsmum

My view of men:

My father - Beat, demeaned and humiliated my mother almost every day and his nine children too despite being highly educated and intelligent and a pillar od society always ready to champion good causes. Loved and admired by everyone outside of his family.

My brothers - in a lot of pain, never really got over their upbringing.

My husband - a very good man who was raised by a very good man. .

My sons - The best.


So the way I see it some men are bast*rds, some are good and some are wonderful.

We're all connected. It's not of benefit to women for men to be unhappy and visa versa.

Happy IMD

Richard Hillman

Men bashing day. Never in men's international day are the achievements of men celebrated. The day is used to point out our weaknesses. Mental Health, prison statistics, violence etc. Do one.

Cleopatra_

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Men bashing day. Never in men's international day are the achievements of men celebrated. The day is used to point out our weaknesses. Mental Health, prison statistics, violence etc. Do one.

Well the suicide rate last year in Ireland was really shocking. That definitely shows that there are many men in Ireland who are really struggling with their mental health and need help. That's not to that there is something wrong with men but something wrong in our society.

Plopsu

fattymuatty wrote: »

Because teaching used to come with a certain status in the community, the local teacher was looked up to. Now teaching doesn't come with any status.

Not where I come from they weren't.

Gimme A Pound

Plopsu wrote: »

Any thoughts on why men's disinterest in primary teaching has skyrocketed in the past thirty or forty years? There was no shortage when I was in school.

When you say no shortage, do you mean primary teachers were 50/50 men? Or more men than women?

I would be very surprised if there was a time when primary teaching had high numbers of men. Principals yes but not teachers.

Plopsu

Technocentral wrote: »

Better salary/status in private sector?

That wouldn't be available to the women taking up teaching posts?

Gimme A Pound

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Men bashing day. Never in men's international day are the achievements of men celebrated. The day is used to point out our weaknesses. Mental Health, prison statistics, violence etc. Do one.

But I suspect you'd be complaining if there wasn't one - why not take it back and do something about the misrepresention (which I agree is there).

Plopsu

Bjorn Scarce Sorrow wrote: »

When you say no shortage, do you mean primary teachers were 50/50 men? Or more men than women?

I would be very surprised if there was a time when primary teaching had high numbers of men. Principals yes but not teachers.

In the school I went to (admittedly a boys school), they were a majority (I think all the teaching above 'infants' level was done by male teachers).

eviltwin

Sad to see what could have been a great thread dragged down by the usual suspects with axes to grind. Could ye not stfu with the baiting for one day.

Anyway happy IMD to all the lads here, ignore the crap and have a good one

Plopsu

demanufactured wrote: »

Plus dealing with other people's little shytes.

There were little shytes forty years ago, too.

suicide_circus

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Never in men's international day are the achievements of men celebrated.

are men's victims of their own success? How do we celebrate men's achievements when nearly all significant achievements of humanity were accomplished by men? That's just called History.

spurious

suicide_circus wrote: »

are men's victims of their own success? How do we celebrate men's achievements when nearly all significant achievements of humanity were accomplished by men? That's just called History.

'History' allows us to understand why it was men achieved those things.

Nowadays, there is a whole section in the Dept of Ed. devoted to studying and trying to combat the poor performance levels of large sections of male students.

Happy IMD to all, (even the non-ridey ones).

rgodard80a

spurious wrote: »

'History' allows us to understand why it was men achieved those things.

Yeah, some guy called "Victor" wrote a lot of history.

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spurious wrote: »

'History' allows us to understand why it was men achieved those things.

Certainly. But you know what I mean

spurious wrote: »

Nowadays, there is a whole section in the Dept of Ed. devoted to studying and trying to combat the poor performance levels of large sections of male students.

That's interesting. What conclusion are they coming to do you know?

Gimme A Pound

Plopsu wrote: »

In the school I went to (admittedly a boys school), they were a majority (I think all the teaching above 'infants' level was done by male teachers).

The church was more involved 40 years ago - more priests and brothers teaching I suppose?

I just don't think men are as interested in primary teaching as women are - same for nursing.

Mrsmum

Bjorn Scarce Sorrow wrote: »

The church was more involved 40 years ago - more priests and brothers teaching I suppose?

I just don't think men are as interested in primary teaching as women are - same for nursing.

Maybe boys did not generally speaking have as positive experiences in school themselves so naturally then are unlikely to want it as a career. Imo school suits girls better both in terms of boys needing to move about more and also female teachers showing bias to girls. My own boys have always told me all their teachers liked the girls more. Children shouldn't be able to notice that so clearly.

jmayo

Shenshen wrote: »

Happy International Men's Day, dear male AHers.

Let us know how you celebrate it?
My husband got breakfast in bed, and I've brought cake for my two male team mates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day

Is this another fooking Hallmark brainfart day ?

Let me guess it came out of the states somewhere.

Plopsu

Bjorn Scarce Sorrow wrote: »

The church was more involved 40 years ago - more priests and brothers teaching I suppose?

I just don't think men are as interested in primary teaching as women are - same for nursing.

Nope, there was a visiting chaplain but none of the teachers were priests.