Ireland v New Zealand match thread

sydthebeat

rodge123 wrote: »

Is it just me or is Marmion very slow to some breakdowns and he is taking a slow motion step before every single pass from rucks?
We would be much further ahead is Murray playing.

Nah... Your just watching a rerun of laidlaw v SA.

Marmmion has been very good so far.... Crisp and sharp

lawred2

sydthebeat wrote: »

We're the better team in that half.... If we can match them for fitness, simplicity and aggression we can fall over the line here.

No mistakes though.... Better off carrying into contact than trying a risky offload..

Marmmion been excellent apart from the last poor kick.... Our second rows have been outstanding

In a game of tight margins I think Marmion could be a little bit quicker.. even half a second.

It's being picky though

captbarnacles

Watching text commentary on nz sites and they are all bewildered how nz don't have a card yet particularly Whitelock

Akrasia

captbarnacles wrote: »

NZ got to be carded!! 5 pen in there own 22

The fact that all our scores were penalties on the 10 meter line right in front of the posts shows how cynical they are.

Incredible game so far though. The intensity is unreal

Alpha_zero

Outplaying the All Black loads of possession carries, gains and only 3 point to the good.

New Zealand will have a period where they will dominate.

Faugheen

rodge123 wrote: »

Is it just me or is Marmion very slow to some breakdowns and he is taking a slow motion step before every single pass from rucks?
We would be much further ahead is Murray playing.

Marmion has been fine and hasn't been helped by slow ball because of the All Blacks slowing it down.

There's absolutely zero point in bringing up Murray in this instance. He's injured.

lawred2

sydthebeat wrote: »

Nah... Your just watching a rerun of laidlaw v SA.

Marmmion has been very good so far.... Crisp and sharp

Don't know.. I kinda see it too. But as I said it's being a wee bit picky

irishbucsfan

Buer wrote: »

Stander has been brilliant but that was a horrible decision to try and pick and go down a blindside with a backpedalling scrum after the clock was dead.

On the contrary I thought he did well to react and get the ball out. They badly badly beat our scrum and if he’d left it that would have been a penalty conceded, he scrambled and we got out of the situation without conceding points

Franz Von Peppercorn

vienne86 wrote: »

Cracking match. That first 40 flew by.

That first 40 aged me by a decade.

Clegg

flazio wrote: »

One thing to take from the first half, Ireland have been over the line twice, New Zealand haven't been within 5 metres of our line.

And both have scored precisely zero trys. New Zealand only need one chance to kill you. They're that good.

Dravokivich

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Tonga had a player sinbinned after 6 mins for one offence,NZ have committed 5/6,we should be well ahead and i think we'll die in last 15,Kearney(not just the try),is on borrowed time @15 just slows all down

Huh? I think we really missed him last week. And weve had a better run forward with the confidence the team have in him watching the backline.

Buer

sydthebeat wrote: »

We're the better team in that half.... If we can match them for fitness, simplicity and aggression we can fall over the line here.

No mistakes though.... Better off carrying into contact than trying a risky offload..

Marmmion been excellent apart from the last poor kick.... Our second rows have been outstanding

A few of his kicks have definitely been poor enough. Not getting any distance at all. Would like a little more decisive play in their 22 too. Missing Murray there.

His defence has been sensational though.

AbusesToilets

Pack will be kicking themselves over two attacking line-outs wasted because of a messed up transfer. We need to score, twice we've crossed the line up not scored. Shades of the last game

vienne86

Some huge performances here. Marmion is a bit slow though IMO, and Best worries me a bit. But everyone else seems to be on fire.

Alpha_zero

New Zealand will have their purple patch and then in trouble,

Yeah_Right

It's nice to see you Irish fans are already blaming the ref. Get in early before the ABs come back

P_1

Great half. I'd bring McGrath on around the 50 minute mark. There are tries to be taken here against them when they tire

c.p.w.g.w

Only negatives in the first half

Best losing possession twice with silly decisions

Marmion seems a little slow at the breakdown*

*maybe more the result of cynical AB play tho

mangobob

Clegg wrote: »

Jaysus. The best 40 minutes Ireland have played under Schmidt? New Zealand are drowning?

Shut up, lads. We're just 3 points ahead and they're the greatest sports team in the world.

Spot on.

Between Donal et al in the commentary box, and the panel in the studio, we can never ever complain about biased commentary again from England or anyone else. The eulogising of Ireland is OTT. The comments about the AB's being "afraid", "rattled", "destroyed" and drowning is just flat out embarrassing.

For the love of God, save it for after the match. If we win, by all means sing our teams praises to the heavens. But we are playing the single most dangerous rugby team on the planet and we are only 3 points ahead. This is gonna be a very long 40 minutes.

ODubhain82

Fantastic match. Exhausting. Best had made a few mistakes but saved our arse spotting that loose ball off the maul.

fitz

Clegg wrote: »

New Zealand have cheated like ****.

Hope Barnes remembers he gave them a final warning when the second half starts

Yeah, I hope we don't see a reset penalty count cause of half time. Drives me bananas when refs do that.

Buer

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Buer wrote: »

Stander has been brilliant but that was a horrible decision to try and pick and go down a blindside with a backpedalling scrum after the clock was dead.

On the contrary I thought he did well to react and get the ball out. They badly badly beat our scrum and if he’d left it that would have been a penalty conceded, he scrambled and we got out of the situation without conceding points

Oh I agree he did well to get it out but he should have been straight into touch to end the half. It was out of the frying pan and into the fire. His pack were always going to be slow to get to him given they were retreating. Marmion had to get stuck in before Healy put it out.

Alpha_zero

There is an abject failure to sanction the All Black for persistent cynical fouling, had Italy done what the All Blacks did they would have 2 in the bin

Sycamore Tree

I would replace Best and Marmion after 60 mins.

ODubhain82

Fantastic match. Exhausting. Best had made a few mistakes but saved our arse spotting that loose ball off the maul.

lawred2

Alpha_zero wrote: »

There is an abject failure to sanction the All Black for persistent cynical fouling, had Italy done what the All Blacks did they would have 2 in the bin

They are without doubt reffed differently

Soulsun

mangobob wrote: »

Spot on.

Between Donal et al in the commentary box, and the panel in the studio, we can never ever complain about biased commentary again from England or anyone else. The eulogising of Ireland is OTT. The comments about the AB's being "afraid", "rattled", "destroyed" and drowning is just flat out embarrassing.

For the love of God, save it for after the match. If we win, by all means sing our teams praises to the heavens. But we are playing the single most dangerous rugby team on the planet and we are only 3 points ahead. This is gonna be a very long 40 minutes.

100% agreed.

Necro

Yeah_Right wrote:

It's nice to see you Irish fans are already blaming the ref. Get in early before the ABs come back

Ah shaddup

Burkie1203

Tackles
Toner 10
Ryan 8
VDF 11


Carrying
Ryan 10-27
Stander 15-20

Alpha_zero

C.J. Stander, Josh Van Der Flier and Bundi Aki good Irish names.