The Hole In The Wall

kweeveen86

I'm genuinely baffled about how those horrible cynical pr*cks get away with enabling dangerous and disgusting braindead binge-drinking free-for-alls like Donegal Tuesday, 'Christmas Day', etc...?!?

jimwallace197

kweeveen86 wrote: »

I'm genuinely baffled about how those horrible cynical pr*cks get away with constantly serving underage punters (for DECADES now!) and enabling dangerous and disgusting braindead binge-drinking free-for-alls like Donegal Tuesday, 'Christmas Day', etc...?!?

Get turned away by any chance?:)

ronnie3585

It was an absolsute sh*t show in town last night.

Mrs OBumble

Guards prefer to have all the pigeons roosting in the one place.

Colleges aren't hard-assed enough about scheduling compulsory tests the next day.

kweeveen86

ronnie3585 wrote: »

It was an absolsute sh*t show in town last night.

It was nuts. Actually, from early yesterday morning onwards there were casualties in Christmas jumpers strewn around the town!

I heard that the College Bar pulled the plug on it last year because it was too messy and destructive and who was there to helpfully step into the breach only the friendly folks down at The Hole In The Wall....

Cheshire Cat

kweeveen86 wrote: »

It was nuts. Actually, from early yesterday morning onwards there were casualties in Christmas jumpers strewn around the town!

I heard that the College Bar pulled the plug on it last year because it was too messy and destructive and who was there to helpfully step into the breach only the friendly folks down at The Hole In The Wall....

What do you suggest they should do? Close for the day when the Students' Christmas Day is on?
I'm not at all supporting mindless binge drinking, but I fail to see how the blame for it can be laid at the door of one establishment.
For example Aldi Westside was overrun with students in Christmas jumpers buying slabs if Galahad and I am sure other pubs, apart from the Hole in the Wall, were frequented, too.

Pa8301

What is this students "Christmas Day" malarkey? I don't think it was a thing when I was in NUIG in the early Noughties.

Mrs OBumble

Cheshire Cat wrote: »

What do you suggest they should do? Close for the day when the Students' Christmas Day is on?
I'm not at all supporting mindless binge drinking, but I fail to see how the blame for it can be laid at the door of one establishment.
For example Aldi Westside was overrun with students in Christmas jumpers buying slabs if Galahad and I am sure other pubs, apart from the Hole in the Wall, were frequented, too.

Apply the licensing laws.

Its illegal to serve anyone who is drunk. So chuck 'em out.

kweeveen86

Cheshire Cat wrote: »

What do you suggest they should do? Close for the day when the Students' Christmas Day is on?
I'm not at all supporting mindless binge drinking, but I fail to see how the blame for it can be laid at the door of one establishment.
For example Aldi Westside was overrun with students in Christmas jumpers buying slabs if Galahad and I am sure other pubs, apart from the Hole in the Wall, were frequented, too.

I'm not laying the blame for 'Christmas Day' solely at their door as I know it takes place in different colleges all around the country.

I'm just talking about their general modus operandi.

Instead of putting any effort into trying to run a decent establishment, they cynically rely on these one-off binge-drinking days like Paddy's Day, themed days in Rag Week, etc. It's HQ and the first port of call on those days.

There actually are not many pubs around the city that p*ssed students would be allowed to frequent in their droves. Most establishments have more sense and respect for themselves, their other clientele and the law.

beardybrewer

Is all this fuss about a few first year students who are a few months away from being 18? Better they keep to their own bars that tolerate them than invade mine. Student caravan! Deploy the troops!

xckjoo

kweeveen86 wrote: »

It was nuts. Actually, from early yesterday morning onwards there were casualties in Christmas jumpers strewn around the town!

I heard that the College Bar pulled the plug on it last year because it was too messy and destructive and who was there to helpfully step into the breach only the friendly folks down at The Hole In The Wall....

It was a decision by the university, not the College Bar. I personally think they should be keeping these things going on-campus so it's not spread out everywhere. This current stance they seem to have adopted of disowning all responsibility is poor form, decreases student safety and only serves to let the university say "not our problem". It also increases demand on Guarda resources instead of the university ponying up.

kweeveen86

xckjoo wrote: »

It was a decision by the university, not the College Bar. I personally think they should be keeping these things going on-campus so it's not spread out everywhere. This current stance they seem to have adopted of disowning all responsibility is poor form, decreases student safety and only serves to let the university say "not our problem". It also increases demand on Guarda resources instead of the university ponying up.

True. If it's a college thing, then keep it at that or cancel it altogether and have it happen nowhere. Washing their hands of it is a total cop-out.

Arghus

kweeveen86 wrote: »

True. If it's a college thing, then keep it at that or cancel it altogether and have it happen nowhere. Washing their hands of it is a total cop-out.

If they had it on-campus people would lambast them for encouraging drunkeness, but if they don't people lambast them for washing their hands of it. They kinda can't win in this situation.

I saw a suggestion up there that the college should have mandatory tests the next day, as if that would stop anything. It would just happen on another day on the calendar in that case. The desire of people to have a big piss up shouldn't be underestimated.

Mostly Harmless

College cancelled Rag Week, students still go out and get hammered on the week every year.

kweeveen86

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

College cancelled Rag Week, students still go out and get hammered on the week every year.

Yeah, NUIG cancelled Rag Week and who happily stepped into the breach? The Hole In The Wall!

Students have two big blow outs a year. End of November for this Christmas party thing, and again during Rag Week.

It stinks of "Back in my day..."

Students have been carrying on like this for as far back as I can remember, and then some.
I had a lecturer in college who used reminisce about his Rag Week escapades.

I'd ask ye all to let the Students be, but then you'd find something else to moan about.
Of all the forums on boards, the Galway City one seems to contain a ridiculous percentage of complainers. Surprisingly, this percentage is the complete opposite of what you actually meet around the City itself.

gordongekko

kweeveen86 wrote: »

I'm not laying the blame for 'Christmas Day' solely at their door .

I never heard of that pub being mentioned in the Bible

Mostly Harmless

I have no issue with anybody going out and getting locked if that's they way they want to spend their time, do think there is a wider issue with our relationship with alcohol in this country but that's not for discussion here.

RAG (raise and give) Week *was* traditionally a week based around raising money for charity with some added high jinks. I am too young to remember such a time and it has always been about students getting extremely drunk.

xckjoo

Arghus wrote: »

If they had it on-campus people would lambast them for encouraging drunkeness, but if they don't people lambast them for washing their hands of it. They kinda can't win in this situation.

Why are they the only two options? I'd like to see them engage with these events but try and move the focus away from just getting as drunk as possible. They have a responsibility to their students that they're ignoring and should be called on.

Deleted User wrote: »

Students have two big blow outs a year. End of November for this Christmas party thing, and again during Rag Week.

It stinks of "Back in my day..."

Students have been carrying on like this for as far back as I can remember, and then some.
I had a lecturer in college who used reminisce about his Rag Week escapades.

I'd ask ye all to let the Students be, but then you'd find something else to moan about.
Of all the forums on boards, the Galway City one seems to contain a ridiculous percentage of complainers. Surprisingly, this percentage is the complete opposite of what you actually meet around the City itself.

Ironic that you're moaning on boards about moaners on boards

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

I have no issue with anybody going out and getting locked if that's they way they want to spend their time, do think there is a wider issue with our relationship with alcohol in this country but that's not for discussion here.

RAG (raise and give) Week *was* traditionally a week based around raising money for charity with some added high jinks. I am too young to remember such a time and it has always been about students getting extremely drunk.

Legend has it that the pubs around town used to donate their profits for the week to charity too.

Mrs OBumble

It's the 15th of freaking NOVEMBER. Not even Christmas month.

College needs to make their courses far harder.

Holidays are when they should be having blowouts, not during term time.

xckjoo

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It's the 15th of freaking NOVEMBER. Not even Christmas month.

College needs to make their courses far harder.

Holidays are when they should be having blowouts, not during term time.

What does the relative difficulty of a course have to do with unofficial parties?

Arghus

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It's the 15th of freaking NOVEMBER. Not even Christmas month.

College needs to make their courses far harder.

Holidays are when they should be having blowouts, not during term time.

Ah, relax. People should be allowed an amount of fun while in college.

ben.schlomo

kweeveen86 wrote: »

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

College cancelled Rag Week, students still go out and get hammered on the week every year.

Yeah, NUIG cancelled Rag Week and who happily stepped into the breach? The Hole In The Wall!

And Paddy's, Fibbers, Skeff, Barr an Chaladh, Richardson's, McGettigans etc

skinny90

what is the point of this thread?

Arghus

skinny90 wrote: »

what is the point of this thread?

Giving out about students, y'know the usual stuff.

skinny90

I think someone should create a petition on facebook banning students having fun in the city...oh and curse the hole in the wall, that will show them :rolleyes:

ANDREWMUFC

It was like something from the walking dead yesterday so it was.

Broken glass all over the footpaths, young wans falling out onto the road, vomit everywhere.

skinny90

ANDREWMUFC wrote: »

It was like something from the walking dead yesterday so it was.

Broken glass all over the footpaths, young wans falling out onto the road, vomit everywhere.

and race week is any different??

beardybrewer

skinny90 wrote: »

what is the point of this thread?

OP got to complain and got the satisfaction of replies because nobody else would give a sh!t. It's a uni-town, ffs.

Mrs OBumble

xckjoo wrote: »

What does the relative difficulty of a course have to do with unofficial parties?

They've too much time on their hands.

Diabhal Beag

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

They've too much time on their hands.

What about all the middle-aged suit jacket/jeans/brown shoes contingent that greatly outnumber any Rag Week crowd and wreck the city every single Race Week with vomit, piss and thousands of dropped chips? Imagine the time they must have on their hands. They get a free pass for seemingly "contributing to the local economy" for the week whereas the majority of these students study here, live here, shop here but are to be sent to the guillotine for what was imo a rather well-behaved pissup.

Mrs O'Bumble we literally had lads from my course ringing up Liveline because Hole in the Wall wouldn't let them in on Donegal Tuesday. It's much better behaved now. 2 heavy drinking days (Christmas and Donegal Tuesday) out of 365 is not bad.

Young people having fun. Good luck to them.

ANDREWMUFC

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Young people having fun. Good luck to them.

They just can’t seem to handle the drink. 2 pints and they’re falling on the road, screeching and roaring

skinny90

ANDREWMUFC wrote: »

They just can’t seem to handle the drink. 2 pints and they’re falling on the road, screeching and roaring

Are we talking about race week or...??

Mrs OBumble

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

They've too much time on their hands.

Having the craic is part of college! I did a massive amount of drinking during college and did superbly well, I do even more drinking in the many years since I started working though as I’ve a lot more money for it. Nothing worse than listening to dry sh1tes giving out about people have a bit of craic.

ANDREWMUFC

ANDREWMUFC wrote: »

They just can’t seem to handle the drink. 2 pints and they’re falling on the road, screeching and roaring

That applies to older adults too!

beardybrewer

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

What about all the middle-aged suit jacket/jeans/brown shoes contingent that greatly outnumber any Rag Week crowd and wreck the city every single Race Week with vomit, piss and thousands of dropped chips?

It's okay as long as they have a tediously long important business meeting early the next morning.

ANDREWMUFC wrote: »

They just can’t seem to handle the drink.

Just jealous they're young and haven't built up a tolerance like us fat middle-agers.

sasta le

It’s one thing having the craic but acting like apes

Hoboo

If they're drunk and disorderly in public its up to the Gardai to arrest. If the HITW is serving underage again its the Gardai who need to enforce. Get on to your local TD or Superintendent. Don't blame the player as they say....

gordongekko

The thread makes a change from grass and cycling

skinny90

kweeveen86 wrote: »

Yeah, NUIG cancelled Rag Week and who happily stepped into the breach? The Hole In The Wall!

No they didnt :rolleyes: Big nights in the hole in the wall was always a thing...the same was type of craic for the river inn when it was a thing.

Mrs OBumble

Miriam Unkempt Tollbooth wrote: »

Having the craic is part of college! I did a massive amount of drinking during college and did superbly well, I do even more drinking in the many years since I started working though as I’ve a lot more money for it. Nothing worse than listening to dry sh1tes giving out about people have a bit of craic.

Lining up outside Hole in the Wall at 8:30am, and staying there to keep your place in a heavy rainshower is not "having the craic". It's just being stupid. As is denying the great damage which excessive drinking is doing to the health and intelligence of the nation.

Arghus

Sounds like a bit of craic.

Most of em will be pretty busy now for the next few weeks heading into the exams period and then it's Christmas, which most will probably work through, let them have their fun. I walked through town today - as far as I could see it was still standing.

biko

Allegations that this pub servers underage people is serious.
You should bring it up with the authorities, not use an anonymous internet forum

Mr Man

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It's the 15th of freaking NOVEMBER. Not even Christmas month.

College needs to make their courses far harder.

Holidays are when they should be having blowouts, not during term time.

So you would be ok with Donegal Christmas if it was the middle of December?
The idea that students are drinking because their courses are too easy is also odd, to say the least; perhaps you were never a student?

The source of this problem is social media. These things are just much easier to organize nowadays.

Happyilylost

Mrs OBumble wrote:

Lining up outside Hole in the Wall at 8:30am, and staying there to keep your place in a heavy rainshower is not "having the craic". It's just being stupid. As is denying the great damage which excessive drinking is doing to the health and intelligence of the nation.

Some people would say the same thing about people who queue up a couple of days beforehand to get concert tickets, sports tickets and such. Each to their own. Not sure the health and intelligence line has much relevance. Sustained heavy alcohol intake over a long period of time would. Drinking in college like most of the world do and have done over the centuries I don't think has that much bearing on their lives.

Mostly Harmless

Happyilylost wrote: »

Some people would say the same thing about people who queue up a couple of days beforehand to get concert tickets, sports tickets and such. Each to their own. Not sure the health and intelligence line has much relevance. Sustained heavy alcohol intake over a long period of time would. Drinking in college like most of the world do and have done over the centuries I don't think has that much bearing on their lives.

Not sure people have been at the current level of binge drinking for centuries somehow

xckjoo

They're in their late teens/20's. Let them live before they're up to their necks with responsibilities like the rest of us old fogies. It was at least as bad, if not worse when I was in college 10+ years ago. I would like to see alternatives being promoted as I don't think we've the healthiest relationship with drink in this country, but we can't exactly blame young people for that. They're a product of their upbringing.

Mrs OBumble

Mr Man wrote: »

So you would be ok with Donegal Christmas if it was the middle of December?
The idea that students are drinking because their courses are too easy is also odd, to say the least; perhaps you were never a student?

It would be better.

I was a student did computer science and mathematics, did not have either the time nor money for heavy drinking.

And living in Galway city centre, I know full well that its not only two days of heavy drinking in the year. It's two publicised organised days, and many less structured ones.

xckjoo

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It would be better.

I was a student did computer science and mathematics, did not have either the time nor money for heavy drinking.

And living in Galway city centre, I know full well that its not only two days of heavy drinking in the year. It's two publicised organised days, and many less structured ones.

But I bet plenty of people you were in class with did and still went on to be successful and valuable contributors to society.

Was time and money the only thing stopping you from being a raging alco? I doubt it somehow.

Arghus

Mostly Harmless wrote: »

Not sure people have been at the current level of binge drinking for centuries somehow

Yeah, it was probably worse.