Beards

Hammer89

It's official, sort of.

Every single woman from a study pool of 8,500 said that they preferred men with facial hair, which is remarkable when you think about it.

The womens were shown pictures of men who were clean shaven, then five days without shaving, then 10 days without shaving, and then four weeks without shaving. According to the study, men with 'heavy stubble' were deemed the most attractive, followed then by men with full beards.

What do the womens of Boards think?

So where was the research done?
Who were the respondents?
Some countries have a far higher 'beard' population than others.
If the countries responding were countries were beards are the normal, then I would expect these results.

Where is the study & results of Irish women in relation to beard wearing men?

Hammer89

bubblypop wrote: »

So where was the research done?
Who were the respondents?
Some countries have a far higher 'beard' population than others.
If the countries responding were countries were beards are the normal, then I would expect these results.

Where is the study & results of Irish women in relation to beard wearing men?

Looks like someone is clean shaven.

Hammer89

Hammer89 wrote: »

Looks like someone is clean shaven.

I really hope so!
Haven't had to shave yet.......but ya never know as I get older.......

punisher5112

Northern lights

Panthro

Beards are great.
But not on women.
They're horrendous on women.

Surreptitious

It depends on the man. Beards suit some men, others they don't suit. I usually prefer stubble or clean shaven.

punisher5112

Panthro wrote: »

Beards are great.
But not on women.
They're horrendous on women.

Get a no no......

My beard is too dark if I let it grow so I have to keep it really short or be clean-shaven, both of which I dislike. Basically, I don't like anything, and I'm even going bald.

Hair can fek off.

Ipso

Weren’t mullets cool one time?

BeerWolf

Stubble it is!

Tokyo

A total of 9991 participants (8699 female, 1292 male) completed this study. For this manuscript, we use only the response from women between 18 and 100 years of age whose Kinsey scale scores indicate they were at least as interested in men as they are in women (i.e. Kinsey et al., 1948, 1–4). This left a sample of 8520 participants for analyses. Participants in this study were predominantly of European descent.

Hm. To me, that seems quite a bias to build into the study. While I get the core tenet of more masculine = more dominant/better able to protect and provide, I've certainly lived in cultures where the general preference was for clean shaven men/men with no body hair.

mike_ie

mike_ie wrote: »

Hm. To me, that seems quite a bias to build into the study. While I get the core tenet of more masculine = more dominant/better able to protect and provide, I've certainly lived in cultures where the general preference was for clean shaven men/men with no body hair.

Well it's more relevant to our culture. If we included 1.4bn Chinese people, the results would say beards are a no-go.

Badly Drunk Boy

I hate shaving but I definitely don't want to be a beard-clone either. It's been a week since I shaved but I'm going to do it in a few minutes.

From the article:

Beards may be more attractive to women when considering long-term than short-term relationships as they indicate a male's ability to successfully compete socially with other males for resources.

Are these resources lumps of food they find in their beards? :pac:

mickuhaha

A full beard hides the obvious balding by drawing the eyes down in my opinion, that's why I have one but then you notice all the people around you stroke their faces after looking at you.A number of studies have suggested that both men and women perceive men with beards as older, stronger and more aggressive than others. And dominant men can get more mating opportunities by intimidating rivals to stand aside.Nigel Barber linked British facial hair fashions between 1842 and 1971 to the ratio of men to women in the marriage market. It found that in times with a greater proportion of single men competing for fewer women, beards and moustaches became more fashionable.

Wanderer78

A lot of insecure men on boards I see, who cares what way you look, just enjoy life folks

Tokyo

Deleted User wrote: »

Well it's more relevant to our culture. If we included 1.4bn Chinese people, the results would say beards are a no-go.

Fair enough. But that isn't the point of the study.

After all, the title of the study is

"facial masculinity and beardedness interact to determine women's ratings of men's facial attractiveness",

not

"facial masculinity and beardedness interact to determine women's ratings of men's facial attractiveness (except the women who might throw off the result we expect to get)"


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Deleted User wrote: »

If we included 1.4bn Chinese people, the results would say beards are a no-go.

That's not how statistics work.

VeryTerry

mike_ie wrote: »

Hm. To me, that seems quite a bias to build into the study. While I get the core tenet of more masculine = more dominant/better able to protect and provide, I've certainly lived in cultures where the general preference was for clean shaven men/men with no body hair.

It's fair to say the 90's-2000's boyband aesthetic is well and truly over.

ConnyMcDavid

https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/fashion/2018/1113/1010620-the-hipster-beard-is-over-heres-5-tips-for-shaving-yours/

whisky_galore

VeryTerry wrote: »

It's fair to say the 90's-2000's boyband aesthetic is well and truly over.

Some guys look well with one. Others look like they've been dragged through a bush backwards. The beardy thing will pass too someday, it's all gone a bit copycat now.

VeryTerry

whisky_galore wrote: »

Some guys look well with one. Others look like they've been dragged through a bush backwards. The beardy thing will pass too someday, it's all gone a bit copycat now.

That can be said for all trends. I still reckon we're a bit off peak beard. The only lads I know in their 30's that don't have one can't grow one. Lots of their fiancé's and wives will be horrified if they ever see them shaved.

JohnnyFlash

I always get the feeling that some dudes get very emotionally attached to their beard as it’s pretty much the only masculine thing about them - having no sporting prowess (computer gaming doesn’t count), courage, strength etc. It’s hardly an amazing feat to have one in fairness - you simply stop shaving. It’s not like you’ve to have special powers to grow one.

For many men, a beard provides a way to partially disguise that they are uttterly hideous looking individuals. Even though their pathetic beard makes them look like a dweeb at best, and a sex criminal at worst. It’s a price they are willing to pay.

RocketRaccoon

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I always get the feeling that some dudes get very emotionally attached to their beard as it’s pretty much the only masculine thing about them - having no sporting prowess (computer gaming doesn’t count), courage, strength etc. It’s hardly an amazing feat to have one in fairness - you simply stop shaving. It’s not like you’ve to have special powers to grow one.

For many men, a beard provides a way to partially disguise that they are uttterly hideous looking individuals. Even though their pathetic beard makes them look like a dweeb at best, and a sex criminal at worst. It’s a price they are willing to pay.

This guy definitely cannot grow a beard

JohnnyFlash

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

This guy definitely cannot grow a beard

As I said, all you do is stop shaving. It’s not exactly a super power you require. Tried the beard once or twice and doesn’t suit me. Which is fair enough. You could argue that regular grooming is a more masculine trait - rubbing sharpened steel down your face.

Listen, if you want a beard then grow one. Just be aware it probably looks terrible on you. Plenty of lads end up looking like Harold Shipman without realising it.

Hector Savage

Panthro wrote: »

Beards are great.
But not on women.
They're horrendous on women.

She is just as attractive as any so called model these days ...
If you disagree you are a transphobic bigot.

JohnnyFlash

Hector Savage wrote: »

She is just as attractive as any so called model these days ...
If you disagree you are a transphobic bigot.

What the fûck is that?

jim o doom

For me it's a weather thing. I shave it off every spring so I'm not as warm during the hot months, and I grow it back in Autumn so I'm warm as I cycle / motorcycle about the place.

My wife has said she prefers the beard though, but that doesn't stop me shaving it off when it gets warm again.

RocketRaccoon

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

As I said, all you do is stop shaving. It’s not exactly a super power you require. Tried the beard once or twice and doesn’t suit me. Which is fair enough. You could argue that regular grooming is a more masculine trait - rubbing sharpened steel down your face.

Listen, if you want a beard then grow one. Just be aware it probably looks terrible on you. Plenty of lads end up looking like Harold Shipman without realising it.

I may have found your issue, if you just stop shaving then yes you will look ridiculous. How ever if you do a hit of trimming and general shaping and styling then you will look far from ridiculous.

Unless of course you are one of the men who only grow in patches

+1 beards

rojito

If your Dad doesn't have a beard, you've got two Moms

whisky_galore

VeryTerry wrote: »

That can be said for all trends. I still reckon we're a bit off peak beard. The only lads I know in their 30's that don't have one can't grow one. Lots of their fiancé's and wives will be horrified if they ever see them shaved.

And vice versa. Makes some lads look like right ould men.

Ray Palmer

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I always get the feeling that some dudes get very emotionally attached to their beard as it’s pretty much the only masculine thing about them - having no sporting prowess (computer gaming doesn’t count), courage, strength etc. It’s hardly an amazing feat to have one in fairness - you simply stop shaving. It’s not like you’ve to have special powers to grow one.

For many men, a beard provides a way to partially disguise that they are uttterly hideous looking individuals. Even though their pathetic beard makes them look like a dweeb at best, and a sex criminal at worst. It’s a price they are willing to pay.

It isn't amazing but not every guy can do it. I work with a few guys in their 30 who can't grow a beard. One guy has facial hair from not shaving which he calls a beard but it doesn't join up with his side burns or his rather weak moustache.

Like with people's regular hair some have nice hair and others don't

Have a beard easily 20 years so I find it funny when somebody refers to me as a hipster or jumping on the bandwagon. I'll always have a beard it just suits me. Only thing is now I can't keep it as fine as I once did because I have gone so grey it disappears when thin unless I dye it which is way too much hassle.

Interesting thing is your beard goes grey where it grew in first. Shaving is said to make hair grow faster but it doesn't, It actually grows thicker when you don't shave. I can still see the outline of my side burns from my youth as they grow in much thicker and the exact shape I used to have them

VeryTerry

whisky_galore wrote: »

And vice versa. Makes some lads look like right ould men.

I know what these lads look like without them. They may still be single if they didn't have the beards is all I'm saying.

Grayson

Deleted User wrote: »

My beard is too dark if I let it grow so I have to keep it really short or be clean-shaven, both of which I dislike. Basically, I don't like anything, and I'm even going bald.

Hair can fek off.

Embrace the baldness. I wet shave my head and it means I never have to worry about wet hair.

Thing is that I'm 43 and what hair I have, including my beard is completly white. It's been that way since my mid 20's. Shaved I look young for my age. With a beard I look like santa.

Sugarlumps

Beards are fine, I have a problem with the constant stroking.

Hammer89

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Have a beard easily 20 years so I find it funny when somebody refers to me as a hipster or jumping on the bandwagon. I'll always have a beard it just suits me. Only thing is now I can't keep it as fine as I once did because I have gone so grey it disappears when thin unless I dye it which is way too much hassle.

Saying you had it 20 years before anyone else sort of makes you a hipster

Hammer89

whisky_galore wrote: »

Some guys look well with one. Others look like they've been dragged through a bush backwards..

This is where beard management comes into play. The fella who looks like he's been dragged through a bush backwards could probably look very well if it was managed. And the guys who look well with a beard? It's not by accident. It's groomed properly.

Wanderer78

Hammer89 wrote:

This is where beard management comes into play. The fella who looks like he's been dragged through a bush backwards could probably look very well if it was managed. And the guys who look well with a beard? It's not by accident. It's groomed properly.

Management? Life's really too short!

Hammer89

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Management? Life's really too short!

Is life too short to brush your teeth, or wash your balls? Because beard management - and when I say 'management', I mean trimming it and combing it when it starts to get a bit wild - is no less exhaustive than any other mundane yet hygienic task.

Wanderer78

Hammer89 wrote:

Is life too short to brush your teeth, or wash your balls? Because beard management - and when I say 'management', I mean trimming it and combing it when it starts to get a bit wild - is no less exhaustive than any other mundane yet hygienic task.

I ll go with the too short route

Ray Palmer

Hammer89 wrote: »

Saying you had it 20 years before anyone else sort of makes you a hipster

Weird it made me a hippy or a rocker back in the day. Love how everyone else wants to label me. I'll live through this latest classification as I did the others. Beards right now are very much the fashion and to be fair it was always common in Ireland. My dad had a beard most of his adult life and I never saw him without one myself only photos. Was he a hipster too? He looked like rabbi as he always wore an overcoat and a hat.

eviltimeban

Have had beards mostly for the last two decades. Went through a period of about a year recently with no beard - it was going grey and I didn't really like that, plus I look way younger (and younger than my age) when I'm clean shaven. I was clinging on to the last gasp of youth!

Problem is, my lady didn't like it. She liked the beard. That's what she bought into. So who I am to deprive her? The beard is back.

Saying all that, summer is definitely a harder time for beard wearing, winter is definitely easier. So winter / full beard, summer / light or no beard tends to work.

Boom_Bap

I don't care how I appear to the opposite sex based on what's on my face.
I just care that I don't have to shave.

Dravokivich

For me, it's that time of year again where I grow my own scarf.

biko

pgj2015

ray darcy looks ridiculous with a beard.

Cleopatra_

Definitely a fan of facial hair here, from stubble to a nicely trimmed and groomed beard. Just no gigantic pube beards please.



I think it can certainly make some men look more attractive.

completedit

Beards look better in pictures than clean shaven, in real life it's different. A beard gives a bit of 3D'ness to the face in pictures whereas clean shaven doesn't photograph as well. Stubble is best though.

Assetbacked

"Male‐typical facial features such as a pronounced brow ridge and a more robust jawline may signal underlying health, whereas beards may signal men's age and masculine social dominance. However, masculine faces are judged as more attractive for short‐term relationships over less masculine faces, whereas beards are judged as more attractive than clean‐shaven faces for long‐term relationships."

Can someone translate this to tell me what I need to do to get the ride. Thinking of just playing it safe;



EDIT: to be clear, I'm not ginger as I am aware that being ginger would preclude me getting the ride absolutely regardless of facial hair or not.

completedit

that thing on the left isn't what women find attractive lmao, they find handsome men like giroud with neat short beards hot, not some neckbeard

Hammer89

Assetbacked wrote: »

"Male‐typical facial features such as a pronounced brow ridge and a more robust jawline may signal underlying health, whereas beards may signal men's age and masculine social dominance. However, masculine faces are judged as more attractive for short‐term relationships over less masculine faces, whereas beards are judged as more attractive than clean‐shaven faces for long‐term relationships."

Can someone translate this to tell me what I need to do to get the ride. Thinking of just playing it safe;

For the ride, you'll need two things: a) a masculine face and b) heavy stubble or a full beard. If you're clean shaven and don't have a masculine face, I'd suggest climbing into a vat of acid because there is no hope.