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Which infringement would you like to see mostly enforced n the roads?

  • 12-11-2018 3:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭


    If you could pick only one of these to be enforced by camera and the others would be disregarded, which one would you like to see enforced? and why?

    This thread wasn't started by me, it was started by someone who is now site banned, but it seemed interesting enough so I've replaced the first post.

    Which infringement would you like to see mostly enforced n the roads? 140 votes

    Speed cameras.
    0%
    Lane discipline cameras.
    5%
    dogmatixMaglightTigerbabyElectric SheepRHJlinpoogwalk 7 votes
    Roundabout cameras.
    37%
    rameirepheelaymoby2101knifey_spoonieApiaristDadesHenry Ford IIIR.O.RHogzyBlack_KnightmaclekTordelbackION08conor2469heffo500ElWalrusduffman3833Skylineheadarleitisslocum-motion 52 votes
    Parking enforcement cameras.
    17%
    irishgeoMc LoveCrookedJackhi5DonJoseDOCARCHadelcrowsmelcallaway92uncle-mofomobfromcorkMockbagav86shanec1928SucklerSweetCalibervicwatsonKellfordNATLORleeside11Gwildor 24 votes
    Traffic light cameras.
    1%
    BronsonTBhelen87 2 votes
    Yellow box cameras.
    28%
    [Deleted User]GristlyEndDr_ColossusDazzyfullstopcolm_mcmseagullMiscreantComhráwilfordBeardySiVoodoomelonSabre ManMLC_bikerxFROSTY GxCookie_MonsterMcTigsMcGrath5Outkast_IREbrowne_rob5 40 votes
    Something else? Please elaborate in the thread.
    10%
    murphym7Amiranitechdiver[Deleted User]boardisevandriverTommyboy40tphaseCrabRevolutiongrogiOnDeBanksthelad95LariTopervg88NickNickleby 15 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Truck drivers taking tacograph break when there actually working especially driver delivering for aldl and lidl doing 13+ a day with no break


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Phoners. 110%.

    https://www.tispol.org/content/2016/03/30/15/39/uk-hgv-road-safety-project-%E2%80%98operation-tramline%E2%80%99

    https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1022453/phone-driving-law-police-bus-fine-penalty-points


    We've hit drink driving hard but failed totally to address phone usage. A low estimate is 4x more likely to crash which is similar to a mild buzz from booze.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    Roundabout cameras.
    Just thought of another one. Make the elderly get proper annual medicals once past a certain age.

    I understand its difficult when they live in the country but its no excuse if they are more likely to crash due to confusion/poor eye sight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Yellow box cameras.
    I think people, especially in Dublin would most like to see traffic light cameras. My sister was nearly killed recently by a red light runner and by all accounts people breaking reds is out of control. I see it daily in Dundalk, I can only imagine what it's like in Dublin at rush hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Why the camera craze? I dont want bloody cameras everywhere. I still want certain things enforced though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    tcawley29 wrote: »
    Just thought of another one. Make the elderly get proper annual medicals once past a certain age.

    I understand its difficult when they live in the country but its no excuse if they are more likely to crash due to confusion/poor eye sight.

    It'd be difficult to make a camera for that one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭boardise


    Something else? Please elaborate in the thread.
    Those cretins who block yellow box junctions should have a gear lever rammed up their hole - knob first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    Roundabout cameras.
    It'd be difficult to make a camera for that one

    It doesn't say cameras specifically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Lane discipline.

    It would free up nealrly a third of the M50’s capacity if we enforced it and got it right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Yellow box cameras.
    Red lights please. And even though you cannot ping cyclists on the cameras, use the evidence gathered to actually target them too. (I'm a cyclist and people sailing through red on bikes really pisses me off)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    Roundabout cameras.
    CinniO wrote: »
    It clearly does. I await your reply btw.

    My bad. Missed that part apologies all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭Savage_Henry


    Alcohol / drug testing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Very few people seem able to hold their lane in a roundabout and that's sometimes turning into a gamble. Probably my favourite from that list.

    But how are you going to enforce that? Not with cameras anyway.

    For me none of the offences justify cameras. You'd have to plaster cameras all over the country for what are annoying but mostly not that dangerous offences.

    What I would throw technology at is the problem of no insurance, no tax, no nct.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Bus lane enforcement

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    None I hate cameras and over zealous enforcement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,573 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Insurance and phone use whilst driving.

    The phone is completely unenforced and the number of people driving with a phone stuck to there ear is ridiculous. There bluetooth ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Something else? Please elaborate in the thread.
    Bus lane enforcement

    Thing is, there’s theoretically nothing dangerous about using a bus lane, it’s just improper lane usage. I don’t understand how it could possibly be top of your list when red light runners, yellow box idiots and clueless roundabout users are far more prevalent and dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Roundabout cameras.
    Phone use and Lane Discipline are my pet hates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,750 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    ANPR on every single motorway in the country at every entry point and also on main roads entering every city, should reduce uninsured drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,367 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I'm frustrated, I don't know which one to vote. Lane discipline is a big one, if you drive in the left lane eventually you'll be stuck behind a slow driver/truck then trapped because some cnt is doing the same speed as you right on your rear corner.

    Speed cameras, I've been flashed a few times recently by German saloons while in the outside lane on the N4 inbound for doing 80, in the lane to take the M50 southbound, where the speed drops to 60, only for them to move into the middle lane to head into Palmerston.

    Mobile phones. Middle aged woman in a BMW coming off the N4 today tailgating me because the car in front of me was going 5 under the limit. She proceeds to tailgate me as I slow from 80 to 60 on the slip approaching a red. Then constantly kept looking down and only when the light went green did she not look back up.

    Red lights of course, effects me less unless at the front. But as a cyclist, Christ.

    And yellow box cameras. The other day I was waiting behind a yellow box. Wasn't sure if I had enough space ahead to clear it but I thought it was narrow so left it clear incase someone was coming out of the estate. A car went around me to join the queue ahead, confirming I could have indeed fit. Then another car goes around me and blocks the box. Couldn't believe my eyes.

    All in the last week. We need more enforcement on everything, but there's no reason we can't have red light cameras at busy junctions and speed cameras on the M50 or N4.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    Yellow box cameras.
    Phone use is the most dangerous.
    One hand on the wheel, and concentrating on a conversation.
    The cars should be confiscated and sold at auction, and the driver lose their licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Lyle Lanley


    Yellow box cameras.
    Traffic light cameras are not so difficult to implement. I think it's something I'm seeing get worse all the time too. My mother's partner was nearly killed today by someone coming through a red light.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Yellow box cameras.
    Was OP an immposter :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Tails142


    Trucks overtaking trucks on the motorway. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    Many cyclists seem to think red lights and other rules do not apply to them. As a frequent bus traveller, I regularly seem them being aggressive towards bus drivers and pedestrians.

    As far as motorists are concerned, lane discipline on main roads is by far the worst thing about driving in this country (other than the extortionate cost of VRT, tax, fuel and insurance obviously). If people understood the 'keep left' rule we'd have an N7 and M50 that are nowhere near as congested as they currently are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    It would be phone use for me too - I'd give harsher penalties to those who drive for a living (delivery vans etcs) handholding the phone. I see so many and often on potholed R roads or one vehicle width country lanes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭Ciano35


    fullstop wrote: »
    Was OP an immposter :eek:

    Yeah, blatantly posing as CiniO!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Tailgating

    Would cut down a huge amount of crashes on places like the M50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    Tails142 wrote: »
    Trucks overtaking trucks on the motorway. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW!!!

    Not necessarily. On a three laned motorway or in exceptional circumstances if there is an obstruction. This rule is for HGV's smaller trucks can overtake on the outside lane.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Unaccompanied L drivers, outside lane hoggers,one eyed monsters, license plate recognition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Who started that thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    Roundabout cameras.
    CiniO wrote: »
    Who started that thread?

    I actually looked to see were you banned when this poster started with a name so similar to yours :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭markpb


    Tails142 wrote: »
    Trucks overtaking trucks on the motorway. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW!!!

    It's not. They're not allowed in lane three of a motorway. Lane two, even on a two lane lane motorway, is fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭markpb


    Many cyclists seem to think red lights and other rules do not apply to them. As a frequent bus traveller, I regularly seem them being aggressive towards bus drivers and pedestrians

    The idea that a cyclist could be aggressive to a bus driver is hilarious! Does it involve a peacock-style flaunting of their impressive plumage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭harr


    Definitely using phones as it seems to be on the increase. Seen it yesterday young on phone missed a read light and went straight through she narrowly missed a group of school kids and other cars but she was totally oblivious.
    Also non use of indicators is a big problem.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Roundabout cameras.
    The OP seems to have been banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Yellow box cameras.
    Red Light's for me. It's endemic on my commuting route(s). Mainly the N11. Every light I'm stopped, when the main road has a green, there's always several cars still entering the junction from the side roads. Whites Cross and Kilmacud Road/ Stillorgan Park particularly bad. Then on on the main line, the day of the amber gambler has gone, and it's rush through red. When you think you've chanced an amber, you look in the mirror and there can be 5 or 6 cars coming through behind.

    Enforcement of this could potentially see sequences altered and increase traffic flow. When I'm on the bike right at the line and can see the side road lights, there's a crazy amount of time built in to the sequence between red on one and green on the other, presumably to allow for all the chancers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    The OP seems to have been banned.

    Interesting question though is: who was the OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    I liked this method of catching people on the phone while driving:

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/covert-police-nab-drivers-by-dressing-as-window-washers-20181114-p50fvd.html

    Phones are more dangerous than drink driving, amount of times I've seen people on the motorway drifting left and right only to pass them and seem them fixated on their phone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Yellow box cameras.
    Phones are definitely the big one. Barely enforced nowadays but that will change.

    In Dublin running red lights is an increasing problem, similarly unenforced.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Emmersonn


    Mobile phone use


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Emmersonn


    mobile phone use. Red light running.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Parking enforcement cameras.
    All of the above option?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭duffman3833


    Roundabout cameras.
    Mobile phones or lane discipline for me. All new cars should have Bluetooth as standard by law so anyone with a new car has no excuses and fined/points straight away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭baldshin


    Yellow box cameras.
    There should be a massive investment in numbers of Gardai and unmarked cars, for whom their daily job is specifically to catch phone users/ red light breakers etc. Gardai on regular patrol have enough to be doing with continuous regular calls all day. Plus, catching someone using a phone or breaking a light is nigh on impossible when driving around in a fluorescent car. 2 Gardai on a 10 hour shift seeking out these offences would completely pay for itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    baldshin wrote: »
    There should be a massive investment in numbers of Gardai and unmarked cars, for whom their daily job is specifically to catch phone users/ red light breakers etc. Gardai on regular patrol have enough to be doing with continuous regular calls all day. Plus, catching someone using a phone or breaking a light is nigh on impossible when driving around in a fluorescent car. 2 Gardai on a 10 hour shift seeking out these offences would completely pay for itself.

    That is completely the wrong way to look at it.
    Fines should never be looked at as a method of revenue generation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    None of the listed ones bother me that much, but I'd like to see a new offence of attempting to merge onto a major carriageway while travelling at less than 80% of the posted speed limit of that carriageway, punishable by cata-pult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Kevin Finnerty


    Parking enforcement cameras.
    jimgoose wrote: »
    None of the listed ones bother me that much, but I'd like to see a new offence of attempting to merge onto a major carriageway while travelling at less than 80% of the posted speed limit of that carriageway, punishable by cata-pult.

    Why not have a catapult at the top of every merging ramp?

    The amount of red light breakers is astonishing. I got blown out of it yesterday for coming to stop at an amber light. And I was right up against red at that. What is it with people who blatantly refuse to stop on red? It's RED. STOP YOU MONG!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    Yellow box cameras.
    Red light running, it's endemic in Dublin at the moment, worse still are the ones who break a red light when pedestrians have a green light to cross.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Bus lanes in Dublin being policed, why should 99% of us sit in traffic abiding the law


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