am I the only person who is sick 'n tired of all this WW1 stuff?

Wheres Me Jumper?

apologies in advance, but am i the only person who is growing tired of all this WW1 commemoration/celebration/remembrance 100 years stuff?

is it not time to start questioning the whole business of sending innocent deluded young lads out to slaughter one another?

before you all start having a go at me, let me just add that 2 of my grand-uncles were killed at Ypres.

orourkeda1977

It is a little tiresome but completely necessary at the same time

Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

Raheem Euro

Were your uncles on the same side?

bee06

Some of the “tributes” are just ridiculous. During the Utd v City pre-show they did a tribute to the Utd and City fans who went to war and the footballers. And don’t get me started on the Yanks.

Tom Mann Centuria

You can certainly be critical of why the war was fought, but the young people and civilians on all sides who died in horrific circumstances deserve to be remembered.

Rich people start wars, poor people die in them, still pretty accurate today.

Timberrrrrrrr

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

apologies in advance, but am i the only person who is growing tired of all this WW1 commemoration/celebration/remembrance 100 years stuff?

is it not time to start questioning the whole business of sending innocent deluded young lads out to slaughter one another?

before you all start having a go at me, let me just add that 2 of my grand-uncles were killed at Ypres.

Lest we never forget!

Wheres Me Jumper?

personally i would prefer to see more emphasis on the utter futility of such carnage.

ednwireland

i do find the they shall not grow old been stated all over like it some good thing !!! (and i know its not !!)

they didnt grow old in there millions because they were slaughtered which is what needs to be remembered

Raheem Euro

Kaiser Wilhelm II, King George V and Tsar Nicolas II were all cousins.

It was really a domestic incident that got out of hand.

OldMrBrennan83

Lest we forget... that they'd give you a pain in your hole with this shíte every year. Clinging on to a dead empire.

Yer Da sells Avon

Deleted User wrote: »

Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

In the UK, at least, those most enthusiastic about commemorating the first World War are usually the same kind of people whose willies go all hard at the thought of a third one.

tylercheribini

"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."
George Orwell, 1984

Doctors room ghost

Trump the boll1x skipped the remembrance parade in France because it was raining.what more would you expect from a draft dodger thought.

goose2005

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

apologies in advance, but am i the only person who is growing tired of all this WW1 commemoration/celebration/remembrance 100 years stuff?

is it not time to start questioning the whole business of sending innocent deluded young lads out to slaughter one another?

before you all start having a go at me, let me just add that 2 of my grand-uncles were killed at Ypres.

I'm sure it'll be over by Christmas

Wheres Me Jumper?

not wishing to besmirch their memory, but i think most of them lads that marched off whistling "Tipperary" hadn't a clue what they were getting themselves into.

Spook_ie

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

apologies in advance, but am i the only person who is growing tired of all this WW1 commemoration/celebration/remembrance 100 years stuff?

is it not time to start questioning the whole business of sending innocent deluded young lads out to slaughter one another?

before you all start having a go at me, let me just add that 2 of my grand-uncles were killed at Ypres.

Did you get sick n tired of the 1916 rebellion centenary?

Raheem Euro

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Trump the boll1x skipped the remembrance parade in France because it was raining.what more would you expect from a draft dodger thought.

Trump misunderstood the warning that it would be Stormy there.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Spook_ie wrote: »

Did you get sick n tired of the 1916 rebellion centenary?

yes entirely. a futile skirmish.

dxhound2005

It gives people something to complain about in between Halloween and Christmas.

road_high

I thought this year was way OTT. Seemed to start a month ago and will go on for another week no doubt.
Hopefully this being the 100 year anniversary it’ll die down a bit and the likes of Arlene Foster et al can go get lives for themselves.
On the same note I hope we don’t have to endure endless commemorations for the civil war,war of Independence etc. 1916 was enough and should cover all these bases.

Timberrrrrrrr

Patww79 wrote: »

Lest we forget... that they'd give you a pain in your hole with this shíte every year. Clinging on to a dead empire.

So avoid it! Turn off the tv stations that "ram it down your throat" avoid the radio stations that talk about it, stay away from any threads with the word poppy in it.
Honestly lads you can easily avoid anything poppy related if it offends you that much!

Folkstonian

Patww79 wrote: »

Lest we forget... that they'd give you a pain in your hole with this shíte every year. Clinging on to a dead empire.

Watch your own tv channels then. It’s not difficult

fonecrusher1

Spook_ie wrote: »

Did you get sick n tired of the 1916 rebellion centenary?

But sure the old poppy worship rears its head is every year. To compare the 1916 centenary to it is just silly to be honest. Childish actually.

Lest we forget the thousands of poor souls sold pipe dreams of glory and honor sent to their deaths for a completely contrived and unnecessary war.

Timberrrrrrrr

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

But sure the old poppy worship rears its head is every year. To compare the 1916 centenary to it is just silly to be honest. Childish actually.

Lest we forget the thousands of poor souls sold pipe dreams of glory and honor sent to their deaths for a completely contrived and unnecessary war.

Unlike the easter lily

OldMrBrennan83

Folkstonian wrote: »

Watch your own tv channels then. It’s not difficult

It was infesting our TV channels too. I don't watch yours but I had the misfortune of being in a house earlier where one was on.

Wheres Me Jumper?

what is wrong with us as a species that we send our lads to this slaughter, and then sit back and collectively pat ourselves on the back with a nostalgic sense of pride, as if to say "aren't we a fine bunch?"

Timberrrrrrrr

Patww79 wrote: »

It was infesting our TV channels too. I don't watch yours but I had the misfortune of being in a house earlier where one was on.

Channel? Programme?

looksee

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

not wishing to besmirch their memory, but i think most of them lads that marched off whistling "Tipperary" hadn't a clue what they were getting themselves into.

Of course they hadn't, it was excitement, a change from routine, and a few shillings in their pockets. It was a different time with a different outlook.

It is impossible to understand attitudes and decisions of that time from the viewpoint of today. I am not speaking for or against those attitudes, just saying they were different.

lawred2

It's a load of old dressed up jingoistic shoite with the sole purpose of romanticising armed forces.

OldMrBrennan83

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Channel? Programme?

No idea, was I going to ask in someone else's house. More of the usual clinging shíte though.

Spook_ie

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

But sure the old poppy worship rears its head is every year. To compare the 1916 centenary to it is just silly to be honest. Childish actually.

Lest we forget the thousands of poor souls sold pipe dreams of glory and honor sent to their deaths for a completely contrived and unnecessary war.

Does the 1916 rebellion not rear its head each year as well?

Roll on June 28th. 2022- May 24th 2023

Timberrrrrrrr

Patww79 wrote: »

No idea, was I going to ask in someone else's house. More of the usual clinging shíte though.

So when you said

Patww79 wrote: »

It was infesting our TV channels too. I don't watch yours but I had the misfortune of being in a house earlier where one was on.

It actually was an English tv channel showing and English tv programme?

So it's easily avoided, ask the hosts to turn it off if it offends you so badly.

AllForIt

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Trump the boll1x skipped the remembrance parade in France because it was raining.what more would you expect from a draft dodger thought.

He didnt want to risk the hair color running down his face. You've been tangoed.

Gimme A Pound

Apart from the usual poppy debate, today is the first I've heard of the 100th anniversary stuff. And given the year that's in it, I personally don't see an issue with extra reflection.

Plus, Blackadder Goes Forth is all over the place.

Watching the Charlie Chaplin impression episode now.

OldMrBrennan83

Spook_ie wrote: »

Does the 1916 rebellion not rear its head each year as well?

Roll on June 28th. 2022- May 24th 2023

Is it not perfectly normal celebrate your own and not your enemy? Well for us I mean, not you lot. You all seem obsessed with us not bending over and sticking on your symbol.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Trump the boll1x skipped the remembrance parade in France because it was raining.what more would you expect from a draft dodger thought.

maybe he is right?
what's the point is going off to stop a bullet for some old fart of a King or Kaiser anyhow?

OldMrBrennan83

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So when you said



It actually was an English tv channel showing and English tv programme?

So it's easily avoided, ask the hosts to turn it off if it offends you so badly.

Two separate occasions. Keep up.

Raheem Euro

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

what is wrong with us as a species that we send our lads to this slaughter, and then sit back and collectively pat ourselves on the back with a nostalgic sense of pride, as if to say "aren't we a fine bunch?"

I think it's all a bit up its own arse. Especially this year.

That being said I think you misunderstand what it's supposed to be.
It's not meant to be "aren't we a fine bunch."
It's more a grieving for, a reverence and a gratitude for people who made a sacrifice on behalf of the country (common wealth) or society.
This stood up better in the past when war was just seen as glorious. Recent generations for the most part lie between neutral and anti war. Still the english mostly get on board with it

Royal Legend

Not into it either, but the Peter Jackson Documentary on BBC2 is amazing and very sad at the same time.

Wheres Me Jumper?

FranklyAnne wrote: »

Population control ?

well if that's it, then we are well overdue for another cull i reckon.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

apologies in advance, but am i the only person who is growing tired of all this WW1 commemoration/celebration/remembrance 100 years stuff?

is it not time to start questioning the whole business of sending innocent deluded young lads out to slaughter one another?

before you all start having a go at me, let me just add that 2 of my grand-uncles were killed at Ypres.

I haven’t read or a single thing about it. I’ve seen countless story titles in the papers and social media etc but I haven’t read any of them. No interest in it, never have never will.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I haven’t read or a single thing about it. I’ve seen countless story titles in the papers and social media etc but I haven’t read any of them. No interest in it, never have never will.

you're beginning to sound like the Rev Ian with all that "never"

rizzodun

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

apologies in advance, but am i the only person who is growing tired of all this WW1 commemoration/celebration/remembrance 100 years stuff?
is it not time to start questioning the whole business of sending innocent deluded young lads out to slaughter one another?

before you all start having a go at me, let me just add that 2 of my grand-uncles were killed at Ypres.

If there was ever a reason past wars should not be forgotten, this is a good one, don't you think?

Spook_ie

Patww79 wrote: »

Is it not perfectly normal celebrate your own and not your enemy? Well for us I mean, not you lot. You all seem obsessed with us not bending over and sticking on your symbol.

Who's this us and your lot you refer to?

OldMrBrennan83

Spook_ie wrote: »

Who's this us and your lot you refer to?

Well you're obviously British or you should be ashamed of yourself.

KungPao

Yeah it's a bit over the top.


The sequel was more interesting.

Timberrrrrrrr

Patww79 wrote: »

Two separate occasions. Keep up.

Ok explain how it has been forced on you if you couldnt physically turn it off

peasant

looksee wrote: »

It is impossible to understand attitudes and decisions of that time from the viewpoint of today. I am not speaking for or against those attitudes, just saying they were different.

Not that much different though.
Look at the rise of nationalism everywhere right now, how easily we fall for lies and fake news.

We're fighting with each other on facebook and on the internet already on a daily basis...the battlefield in a pointless war is not that far away.

The remembrance of that pointless war once a year might not be all that bad an idea.

Harry Palmr

The armistice for the armistice is at 11 am tomorrow.

Alf Veedersane

It's nice to remember that poppies aren't just for heroin though. They're also for commemorating WW1 sadness.

The poppy got a bit of a raw deal, tee bee eff.