Meal price checker

cute geoge

What is the general run of prices nowadays ??
I have a mix of weanlings ,stores and a few cull cows and would like to pick up a simple mix with barley and hulls .I was feeding the few weanlings 16% coarse off crecora which worked out at €340 in bags!!!

Cavanjack

cute geoge wrote: »

What is the general run of prices nowadays ??
I have a mix of weanlings ,stores and a few cull cows and would like to pick up a simple mix with barley and hulls .I was feeding the few weanlings 16% coarse off crecora which worked out at €340 in bags!!!

You should be able to get a good finishing ration for €260 blown in or in half tonne bags. A 16% will prob cost You more but all you are at at the minute is buying expensive plastic bags.

Bass Reeves

You can but Barley in bags for about 250/ton off dairy gold. It is in 20kg bags. Soyabean meal is around 11.5/bag AFAIK and is expensive at that considering that Soyabean meal is about 350/ton ex port.

However 5X20 bags of barley to 1/3 of a bag of soya bean meal is about 16% ration. No need of a fibre source unless you are feeding lots of it as silage will be enough fibre.. You will need to buy bagged minerals again DG have a good general purpose mineral at 18.50/bag. The mix works out at 270/ton without minerals. For 300kg weanlings minerals will cost 4.5c/head/day feed at 20 grams/100kgs LW. I would also feed 15-20grams/100kgs of limestone flour to weanlings the cost is less than 1.5c/day.

charolais0153

Bass Reeves wrote: »

You can but Barley in bags for about 250/ton off dairy gold. It is in 20kg bags. Soyabean meal is around 11.5/bag AFAIK and is expensive at that considering that Soyabean meal is about 350/ton ex port.

However 5X20 bags of barley to 1/3 of a bag of soya bean meal is about 16% ration. No need of a fibre source unless you are feeding lots of it as silage will be enough fibre.. You will need to buy bagged minerals again DG have a good general purpose mineral at 18.50/bag. The mix works out at 270/ton without minerals. For 300kg weanlings minerals will cost 4.5c/head/day feed at 20 grams/100kgs LW. I would also feed 15-20grams/100kgs of limestone flour to weanlings the cost is less than 1.5c/day.

Local coop here. Barley is 300/t in bulk..

Bass Reeves

charolais0153 wrote: »

Local coop here. Barley is 300/t in bulk..

Last time I got it was September might be a tenner dearer now but that would be it. DG are usually excellent to buy bagged barley off usually bagged price is 20-40 cheaper than anyone else. As well if you have an account they will give you ton or pallet price if taking a good bit from them. Ask for the pallet(70bags price, 1.4T) you can draw it away in 20 bags lots.

Jb1989

Fresh prices for winter in Lakelands.
Tonne bags on account collected at yard.

225 maize
230 hulls
250 barley
255 distillers
395 soya
265 hi cereal finisher ration
283 gold finishers (extra minerals plus full acid buff)
295 sucker start (all rounder for weanlings and under 16 months. Warmer up for intense feed of hi energy rations.
11. Bag of cattle minerals
24. Bag of acid buff

blackdog1

Got a price of 335 for a very good 21%protein ration nó fillers. Includes yeast, minerals, sodium bicarbonate and its cubed.

older by the day

blackdog1 wrote: »

Got a price of 335 for a very good 21%protein ration nó fillers. Includes yeast, minerals, sodium bicarbonate and its cubed.

Maize meal is 240 bulk delivered, tho a lad told me today he is paying 230, same supplier, same amounts, that drives me f##king mad.

patsy_mccabe

Roches in Limerick do a 16% Weanling Coarse Ration collected at €7.50 a bag, so €300/tonne.

Bass Reeves

older by the day wrote: »

Maize meal is 240 bulk delivered, tho a lad told me today he is paying 230, same supplier, same amounts, that drives me f##king mad.

It happens it the same as buying Heinz Tomato Ketchup in Dunnes and finding it 20c cheaper in Supervalue.

oldsmokey

Sort of a related question - will rolled barley work in a bin? ie can it be stored in a feed bin, will it flow out freely, or would it stick ?

Bass Reeves

oldsmokey wrote: »

Sort of a related question - will rolled barley work in a bin? ie can it be stored in a feed bin, will it flow out freely, or would it stick ?

Ideally you should never put a single loose ingredient in a bin. However if it is well dried and you are using what is in the bin in 6 weeks you should be ok. However watch out that miller is not selling popcorn treated barley. It will separate a bit and you'll have some pure flour at the end.

charolais0153

oldsmokey wrote: »

Sort of a related question - will rolled barley work in a bin? ie can it be stored in a feed bin, will it flow out freely, or would it stick ?

It flows freely. It would wabt to be used fairly wickly nind you to stop it lodging

charolais0153

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It happens it the same as buying Heinz Tomato Ketchup in Dunnes and finding it 20c cheaper in Supervalue.

Never seem to get any deals like buy one get one free;)

Waternotsoda

My 25kg of beef crunch has gone up €1.25 to €8.50. Is this reflected around the country?

Dunedin

Waternotsoda wrote: »

My 25kg of beef crunch has gone up €1.25 to €8.50. Is this reflected around the country?

That’s an increase of €60 a ton to €340. Unless you are only using small amounts I’d be looking at a cheaper mix especially with beef prices at the moment.

older by the day

My 16% calf nuts are 9.15 a bag. That's 366 a ton. So I took a big bag and collected half a bag of high energy beef nuts for 290 a ton. I took a half ton as I don't have to many. The bags are dear

Bass Reeves

older by the day wrote: »

My 16% calf nuts are 9.15 a bag. That's 366 a ton. So I took a big bag and collected half a bag of high energy beef nuts for 290 a ton. I took a half ton as I don't have to many. The bags are dear

Buying small bags in ones and two or even 4-5's is a mugs games. Most mills and co-ops will do ton or pallet(1.75 tones) prices. If you are collecting a half ton they will hold this price. 290 would still be dear for a half ton.

Cavanjack

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Buying small bags in ones and two or even 4-5's is a mugs games. Most mills and co-ops will do ton or pallet(1.75 tones) prices. If you are collecting a half ton they will hold this price. 290 would still be dear for a half ton.

Did you ever buy barley off the combine and treat it bass? How does it compare value wise or is the extra work not worth it?

Bass Reeves

Cavanjack wrote: »

Did you ever buy barley off the combine and treat it bass? How does it compare value wise or is the extra work not worth it?

I did it once. However you have to buy 10+ tons but really you need to be doing 30+ tons. I got it crimped and treated it with an additive. You have to protect from crows and rats. I had to cover it completely with tyres and then had to cover that with netting. Then you had to keep rat poison down around it. By the time you buy plastic, netting and your additive you are only breaking even. You have to pay for everything up front and you either will not have enough or too much. If you have any waste you will be losing money.

If you were to do 30 ton you would have over 5500 ted up in feed in the yard the 1st of September. This is where big finishers get caught. Trying to squeeze a margin out of high up front costs. A lad finishing 200 cattle would have 50K+ tied up in feeding between silage and whole crop maize or barley if he was going down that road. The catch is you have to convert it all back into cash no matter what the price is.

Attie Ross

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I did it once. However you have to buy 10+ tons but really you need to be doing 30+ tons. I got it crimped and treated it with an additive. You have to protect from crows and rats. I had to cover it completely with tyres and then had to cover that with netting. Then you had to keep rat poison down around it. By the time you buy plastic, netting and your additive you are only breaking even. You have to pay for everything up front and you either will not have enough or too much. If you have any waste you will be losing money.

If you were to do 30 ton you would have over 5500 ted up in feed in the yard the 1st of September. This is where big finishers get caught. Trying to squeeze a margin out of high up front costs. A lad finishing 200 cattle would have 50K+ tied up in feeding between silage and whole crop maize or barley if he was going down that road. The catch is you have to convert it all back into cash no matter what the price is.

I did it for years bought off combines always in good weather so no drying put on loft ton at a time too finish 25/30 cattle.
Bruised through the floor.
Baught straights off merchant corn glutan and some yellow meal+minerals simple mix I was happy with results always had nice shiny stock.
Warning do not start feeding fresh barley it will kill stock.

Waternotsoda

€11 for a 40kg bag of barely. Is this about average nation wide?

Waternotsoda

Is it OK to feed straight barley along with grazing. I was thinks 3kg ahead angus cross?

Bass Reeves

Waternotsoda wrote: »

€11 for a 40kg bag of barely. Is this about average nation wide?

That is 270/ton. Have not priced straight Barley lately. Last time I was getting it was 240/ton. Dairygold are usually very good value if you take at least a 1/2 ton at the time. I consider that dear for 40kg bags due to difficulty in handling. its supposed to be commimg off the combine at sub 150/ton @205 moisture

Waternotsoda

I have just purchased 6 x 25 kg bags of nutrias maize meal @ €7 each. I did not know it was sold like this until I came across it in store. I will be feeding it to Angus steers currently grazing grass. I hope to finish in two months.

Any advice on feeding it out?

Waternotsoda

How much for 40kg bags of barley?

Bass Reeves

Waternotsoda wrote: »

How much for 40kg bags of barley?

Have not seen 40kg bags anywhere in a while purely from a handling point of view. Dairygold 230/ton by the pallet

hopeso

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Have not seen 40kg bags anywhere in a while purely from a handling point of view. Dairygold 230/ton by the pallet

Still plenty of them available around here.....

Cavanjack

What are you all paying for meal?
Getting a finishing course ration blown in for €240 here.

mr.stonewall

Cavanjack wrote: »

What are you all paying for meal?
Getting a finishing course ration blown in for €240 here.

250/ton for a 16% beef ration (barley, distillers based) similar in nut is 260/ton.

Bass Reeves

Both of those sound very reasonable. Dairygold has increased the price of bagged rolled barley to 250/ton by the pallet. Barley, maize have hills with 2% mins are 240/ton in bulk. I want to be seeing the percentages of what is in the ration.

From the feedback I am getting any decent finishing ration will be north of 250/ton in ration form. If a beef ration is 16%and coming on around 250/ton again I like to see all the ingredients and the percentages. We really should be getting a detailed breakdown of what in a ration or nut at this stage.

This is no longer a game costs are climbing all the time beef price is static or dropping. Present indication are that rations will climb by 10-20/ton. However I thing DG are taking the piss at this stage. 95/ton to dry and bag barley is bit much

Siamsa Sessions

Was stuck 2 weeks ago and bought a few 25kg bags of rolled barley from Glanbia - worked out at €248/ton. I have since sourced it from a tillage neighbour and am collecting it from his yard in 1/2 ton bags for €200/ton. It's a bit awkward scooping it out of the big bags but no more than the hassle of handling lots of 25kg bags and paying nearly an extra €50/ton.

Getting a 15% beef nut for €260 but will be pricing around before getting any more of that.

In the south-east of the country here.

1373

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Both of those sound very reasonable. Dairygold has increased the price of bagged rolled barley to 250/ton by the pallet. Barley, maize have hills with 2% mins are 240/ton in bulk. I want to be seeing the percentages of what is in the ration.

From the feedback I am getting any decent finishing ration will be north of 250/ton in ration form. If a beef ration is 16%and coming on around 250/ton again I like to see all the ingredients and the percentages. We really should be getting a detailed breakdown of what in a ration or nut at this stage.

This is no longer a game costs are climbing all the time beef price is static or dropping. Present indication are that rations will climb by 10-20/ton. However I thing DG are taking the piss at this stage. 95/ton to dry and bag barley is bit much

Very true, but people have to include the main ingredients if their is any comparison to be made . 50% maize meal,25 % barley 25% distillers/hulls , blown in at €250

Bass Reeves

1373 wrote: »

Very true, but people have to include the main ingredients if their is any comparison to be made . 50% maize meal,25 % barley 25% distillers/hulls , blown in at €250

That's a good price in present context

kevthegaff

How much would you save say buying straights in bulk and mixing them yourself if you had a feeder

Cavanjack

kevthegaff wrote: »

How much would you save say buying straights in bulk and mixing them yourself if you had a feeder

Thinking of going down this route too and would be interested in hearing people’s views. See a couple of lads on YouTube crimping barley and storing it under cover. Would you save €40-€50 a tonne?

kk.man

Cavanjack wrote: »

Thinking of going down this route too and would be interested in hearing people’s views. See a couple of lads on YouTube crimping barley and storing it under cover. Would you save €40-€50 a tonne?

I don't know how much ton you intend feeding but my argument was and is... Is it worth the hassle, safe storage space and the labour used to get the desired mix. For the sake of a few quid if you could buy a somewhat decent mix from the mill I think the option far outweighs the saving.

Siamsa Sessions

Speaking of barley - has anyone used “barley balancer”?

Bass Reeves

kevthegaff wrote: »

How much would you save say buying straights in bulk and mixing them yourself if you had a feeder

Cavanjack wrote: »

Thinking of going down this route too and would be interested in hearing people’s views. See a couple of lads on YouTube crimping barley and storing it under cover. Would you save €40-€50 a tonne?

Problem with straights or crimping is you are then committed to turning this type of feed back into money during that winter. As well if you have not got enough you have to go back out and source similar feed. You will also have to pay maybe 6-8 months earlier than from a miller. The risk of spoilage, wastage and damage is there as well.
You need fair numbers to make it work. I generally got away from winter feeding 4-5years ago. Now I might have a few stragglers to feed for Christmas but I have given up that at the end of every winter all you had left was the meal bill

1373

kk.man wrote: »

I don't know how much ton you intend feeding but my argument was and is... Is it worth the hassle, safe storage space and the labour used to get the desired mix. For the sake of a few quid if you could buy a somewhat decent mix from the mill I think the option far outweighs the saving.

Plus the hassle of reloading the mix into your barrow if that’s all you’re using. Also any good straight worth feeding is dusty eg barley,maize. Most smaller mills will mix a bit for you and blow it in with a bit of molasses added plus minerals

cute geoge

Just priced hi energy nuts E430 coarse E415 from Co op

I taught prices were supposed to drop ,any one doing better

whelan2

Paying under 400 here anyway , what protein nut you getting ?

orm0nd

Text yesterday price down 30 euro/ ton.

Not much use since I don't pay quoted price anyhow.

jaymla627

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120781865#Comment_120781865

420 for a top quality 16% with megalac and soya bean/rape as the protein sources and no pk, same crowd will sell you the yard sweeping mix with oat hulls pk maize gluten etc for a 16% nut for 370

Cavanjack

Paid €360 at the end of May for a finishing nut. I’d expect it to be less now.

leoch

Wats hi maize finishing ration at the minute

Jb1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120782289#Comment_120782289

Lakelands 50 percent maize, 385

Scotts/fayne valley 50 percent maize 430 (old stock possibly)

cute geoge

Have coarse ration prices droped much as I need to get a few tonne this week

Mr..

€10/ ton bulk collected and 50cent in 25kg bags, thats in the midlands

cute geoge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121301187#Comment_121301187

What is that blend working out at now

Mr..

345/ton for the bulk and 580 for the small bags