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Co Manager/CEO.....is it a job for life...?

  • 10-11-2018 9:44pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭ Road-Hog


    Just wondering does anyone know if co managers Keep position until retirement or do they have To go after a certain term...I think I recall someone saying that a number of years ago they put a ten year limit on a co managers tenure.? Michael Walsh locally has been there a good number of years now at a guess about 9/10.....does that mean he could be gone at end of this year....?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭ alta stare


    I cant imagine public service job having a time limit per say. Cushy numbers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭ Fann Linn


    Road-Hog wrote: »
    Just wondering does anyone know if co managers Keep position until retirement or do they have To go after a certain term...I think I recall someone saying that a number of years ago they put a ten year limit on a co managers tenure.? Michael Walsh locally has been there a good number of years now at a guess about 9/10.....does that mean he could be gone at end of this year....?
    They normally move around hoping to end up with one of the big ones, ie Dublin, Cork etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ hardybuck


    alta stare wrote: »
    I cant imagine public service job having a time limit per say. Cushy numbers.

    While this is a public service role, in the Civil Service the Secretaries General (who would be more senior than a County Council CEO) get seven year terms.

    They don't have to leave after seven years, as some of them would be way too young for retirement, but they can move to another organisation and take on a role at the same level. The idea being that mobility is a good thing, and fresh ideas come with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭ BBM77


    Road-Hog wrote: »
    Just wondering does anyone know if co managers Keep position until retirement or do they have To go after a certain term...I think I recall someone saying that a number of years ago they put a ten year limit on a co managers tenure.? Michael Walsh locally has been there a good number of years now at a guess about 9/10.....does that mean he could be gone at end of this year....?

    In Michael Walsh’s case I hope it is for life.

    Generally though, I don’t know how there could be a limit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭ alta stare


    hardybuck wrote: »
    While this is a public service role, in the Civil Service the Secretaries General (who would be more senior than a County Council CEO) get seven year terms.

    They don't have to leave after seven years, as some of them would be way too young for retirement, but they can move to another organisation and take on a role at the same level. The idea being that mobility is a good thing, and fresh ideas come with it.

    Make sense i guess.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭ curmudgeonly


    Seven years renewable as the OP states


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭ Max Powers


    Seven years renewable as the OP states

    Think CEO has to be approved by councillors...it's one of their few powers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭ Road-Hog


    BBM77 wrote: »
    In Michael Walsh’s case I hope it is for life.

    Generally though, I don’t know how there could be a limit.[/quote

    Would the common view be that M. Walsh is one of the better ones we’ve had...?

    Not old enough to remember anyone else really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 engiweirdo


    Road-Hog wrote: »
    BBM77 wrote: »
    In Michael Walsh’s case I hope it is for life.

    Generally though, I don’t know how there could be a limit.[/quote

    Would the common view be that M. Walsh is one of the better ones we’ve had...?

    Not old enough to remember anyone else really.
    Most likely multiple iterations of Kenneally puppets. He didnt exactly have a tough target to surpass.


  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭ curmudgeonly


    Road-Hog wrote: »
    BBM77 wrote: »
    In Michael Walsh’s case I hope it is for life.

    Generally though, I don’t know how there could be a limit.[/quote

    Would the common view be that M. Walsh is one of the better ones we’ve had...?

    Not old enough to remember anyone else really.

    Michael Doody for about 900 years,an accountant balanced the books perfectly always, but absolutely nothing happened for years, he on his own held Waterford back for twenty years.
    Con Murray followed,good guy but had his eye always on a bigger job,.
    Eddie Breen then good guy, did some service but moved to WEX to be closer to home.
    Michael Walsh with his faults is far better for Waterford Inc, he may be ****e at balancing books n, but gets things done


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 engiweirdo


    Road-Hog wrote: »
    BBM77 wrote: »
    In Michael Walsh’s case I hope it is for life.

    Generally though, I don’t know how there could be a limit.[/quote

    Would the common view be that M. Walsh is one of the better ones we’ve had...?

    Not old enough to remember anyone else really.

    Michael Doody for about 900 years,an accountant balanced the books perfectly always, but absolutely nothing happened for years, he on his own held Waterford back for twenty years.
    Con Murray followed,good guy but had his eye always on a bigger job,.
    Eddie Breen then good guy, did some service but moved to WEX to be closer to home.
    Michael Walsh with his faults is far better for Waterford Inc, he may be ****e at balancing books n, but gets things done
    Working for one half of the population at least (haves) so 50% winning is an Irish positive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭ curmudgeonly


    engiweirdo wrote: »
    Working for one half of the population at least (haves) so 50% winning is an Irish positive.

    What do you mean?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 engiweirdo


    engiweirdo wrote: »
    Working for one half of the population at least (haves) so 50% winning is an Irish positive.

    What do you mean?

    Sitting on hands continuously with regard to housing crisis while finding avenues for funding for regeneration of business/commercial areas by any means possible.

    As I say, doing an excellent job by any measure, for one section of the population while completely neglecting a significant portion of other responsibilities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭ curmudgeonly


    engiweirdo wrote: »

    Sitting on hands continuously with regard to housing crisis while finding avenues for funding for regeneration of business/commercial areas by any means possible.

    As I say, doing an excellent job by any measure, for one section of the population while completely neglecting a significant portion of other responsibilities.
    I hear what you are saying,but unless the City is blossoming none of what you speak of will never be done because of lack of resources.
    I would not agree nothing is being done as regards housing,there are a couple of schemes ongoing with s very large tranche of both private and public coming on stream in 2019


  • Registered Users Posts: 569 HelgaWard


    Doing this....
    finding avenues for funding for regeneration of business/commercial areas by any means possible.
    Means that there will be more money in the Council's bank to deal with this...
    Sitting on hands continuously with regard to housing crisis

    And also will create more jobs, which should reduce the amount of people with need housing assistance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,210 ✭✭✭✭ Wanderer78


    HelgaWard wrote:
    And also will create more jobs, which should reduce the amount of people with need housing assistance.
    [/QUOTE][/quote]


    Will the rate of increase of the wages of the jobs created, match the more than likely increase of the rate of the cost of housing caused by this development, and will the rate of pay of many of these jobs created be enough to save for a deposit to buy a home?


  • Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭ curmudgeonly


    HelgaWard wrote: »
    Doing this....

    Means that there will be more money in the Council's bank to deal with this...


    And also will create more jobs, which should reduce the amount of people with need housing assistance.

    I am misquoted here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 engiweirdo


    HelgaWard wrote: »
    Doing this....
    finding avenues for funding for regeneration of business/commercial areas by any means possible.
    Means that there will be more money in the Council's bank to deal with this...
    Sitting on hands continuously with regard to housing crisis

    And also will create more jobs, which should reduce the amount of people with need housing assistance.
    A lot of the jobs created won't actually reduce need for housing assistance, certainly not as a result of the Applemarket- Arundel Square regeneration and even NQ will likely be limited enough in this regard.

    Its been an ongoing thing now for years- completely un-used plaza on the quay, viking tri-angle increases tourist spend in Waterford Crystal environment but very little real employment benefit to city.

    Basically the NQ HAS to work out or Mr Walshs legacy will be one of polishing the surface while the foundations collapsed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭ Stopitwillya


    engiweirdo wrote: »

    Sitting on hands continuously with regard to housing crisis while finding avenues for funding for regeneration of business/commercial areas by any means possible.

    As I say, doing an excellent job by any measure, for one section of the population while completely neglecting a significant portion of other responsibilities.

    Engiweirdo
    Not another thread ruined by you going on about this nonsense.
    For god sake change the tune.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 engiweirdo


    engiweirdo wrote: »

    Sitting on hands continuously with regard to housing crisis while finding avenues for funding for regeneration of business/commercial areas by any means possible.

    As I say, doing an excellent job by any measure, for one section of the population while completely neglecting a significant portion of other responsibilities.

    Engiweirdo
    Not another thread ruined by you going on about this nonsense.
    For god sake change the tune.

    Yeah sure thing. I mean imagine discussing the record of the current position holder in a thread specifically about the position. The obscenity. Start a knitting group or something if you only want to hear opinions that agree with your own. Thats not really how discussion forums work.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 engiweirdo


    engiweirdo wrote: »

    Yeah sure thing. I mean imagine discussing the record of the current position holder in a thread specifically about the position. The obscenity. Start a knitting group or something if you only want to hear opinions that agree with your own. Thats not really how discussion forums work.

    Or giving out about a lack of social housing on another thread just cause you can't afford to buy a house
    I dont need/want to buy a house. I dont need a social house. Not every opinion held is directed by self interest, indeed I feel that's a major issue with how people act/vote in general.

    I just dont feel the same level of effort and energy is devoted toward solving problems effecting the public good/welfare as is clearly being devoted to economic concerns under the present administration. And I include Michael Walsh in that every bit as much as Leo Varadkar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭ Stopitwillya


    engiweirdo wrote: »

    Yeah sure thing. I mean imagine discussing the record of the current position holder in a thread specifically about the position. The obscenity. Start a knitting group or something if you only want to hear opinions that agree with your own. Thats not really how discussion forums work.

    Or take over another thread giving out about a lack of social housing, just cause you can't afford to buy a house.

    Why don't you just get a bloody job, work hard, save, get a deposit and buy a house rather than expecting a free house from the council.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 engiweirdo


    engiweirdo wrote: »

    Yeah sure thing. I mean imagine discussing the record of the current position holder in a thread specifically about the position. The obscenity. Start a knitting group or something if you only want to hear opinions that agree with your own. Thats not really how discussion forums work.

    Or take over another thread giving out about a lack of social housing, just cause you can't afford to buy a house.

    Why don't you just get a bloody job, work hard, save, get a deposit and buy a house rather than expecting a free house from the council.
    Ah there it is. The pig headed Irish "Why dont you just get a job". Let me guess, you: Mid 50s, walked into job after school, bought a house for the equivalent of about €20 in todays money, thinks the young crowd have it too handy these days.

    Am I warm? Cos I think I'm bubbling tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭ Stopitwillya


    engiweirdo wrote: »
    Ah there it is. The pig headed Irish "Why dont you just get a job". Let me guess, you: Mid 50s, walked into job after school, bought a house for the equivalent of about €20 in todays money, thinks the young crowd have it too handy these days.

    Am I warm? Cos I think I'm bubbling tbh.

    30s actually and still in negative equity but I'm not looking for handouts like some, I work hard and recognise when we have a great county manager such as we have at present.


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 comeraghs


    Haven't heard anybody say anything bad about Michael Walsh, He seems to be doing great work to drive the City on.


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