'Taken Down' series = The Fall ??

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Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Thanks OP, I will avoid it then. I hate this whole new move where they think in order to show a strong female they think they need to take the men down, same thing that happened with Star Wars killing off Luke so Rey can shine. Ignoring the fact that they are women and just write a good character is all that is needed.

The whole show is so far a disappointment. So far, there is no strong female or male character here. Only smart ass cops, stereotyped victims and idiots. Luke is an iconic character in 'Star Wars' and Rey is a good character too. Both are memorable and you remember their names. I cannot remember any name apart from Bankole in 'Taken Down' because they robbed that from one of the characters in 'The Handmaid's Tale' (which is how a TV show with proper strong female characters should be done) and Wayne because he is a clown.

What was the point of that ironing and cooking and eating biscuits parts of last night? Another fault is how literally dark it is. I mean dark as being all filmed in the dark nearly. 'Taken Down' looks like a hodge podge of ideas taken from whodunnits, 'The Handmaid's Tale', 'Love/Hate' and the news but nothing really seems to be coming into place so far.

skearnsot

A pile of bleugh acting - mr Gleeson is the only decent actor in it. Deffo no love hate - it wouldn’t even patch its arse

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Candie wrote: »

I've grown up watching movies and tv shows where every last person of authority was male, now that I think of it.

One tv show where women occupy those positions and this happens. Half the population are female, have a bit of perspective.

And when you were young did this reflect reality? That is did men occupy almost every position of authority from Taoiseach to judge to doctor to local Garda sergeant?

Reality TV 30 years before Big Brother. Who would have thought.

namloc1980

Men are much more likely to be portrayed as eejits in media these days. There's an ad on the radio for some car insurance crowd with a man and a woman, and the man comes across as a weak moron.

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skearnsot wrote: »

A pile of bleugh acting - mr Gleeson is the only decent actor in it. Deffo no love hate - it wouldn’t even patch its arse

Brian Gleeson is wasted 100% in the role of Wayne. Hughie in season one of Love/Hate shows us what he should be.

RTE drama is being treated like RTE music: sanitised beyond belief. Too much attention is being paid to those who cry 'torture porn' about the violent scenes of Love/Hate and The Handmaid's Tale. As said before, why should people watch crime and dystopian dramas if they do not want to see the horrors of those worlds? Taken Down like Rebellion and Clean Break before it are crime or dystopian dramas for nonfans of these genres! These are dramas for fans of Dancing With The Stars and Westlife!

namloc1980 wrote: »

Men are much more likely to be portrayed as eejits in media these days. There's an ad on the radio for some car insurance crowd with a man and a woman, and the man comes across as a weak moron.

Wayne and that male Garda are both portrayed as idiots in this series. There are no good characters period in this. All characters to suit the tame toned down nature of post-Love/Hate RTE drama.

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Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

The Fall was gripping, this isn't. Not by a long shot. Forced myself to see out the 1st episode to give it a chance, but nah!

Taken Down is the opposite to gripping. Yet everything was in place for it to be good. Good writer, a good actor in Brian Gleeson and a good story. Yet, the production is the worst it could be.

Even if it were to pick up now in episodes 4, 5 and 6, it would be too little too late. 3 full episodes have been wasted on something that could be done in 10 minutes. Confusing anticlimactic sequences of events and characters who you do not end up caring about is what you have here.

Pythagorean

I wonder if the writers of this series have any actual experience of crime investigations, because it seems to me that the toxic, rancorous expletive laden interaction between the characters is most unrealistic. The scene where Inspector Cooney interacts with the sergeant, when she is looking for extra surveillance exemplifies this, at the end of the rancour he shouts "I'm going for a piss". Would this happen in real life?. The male characters are portrayed as weak, sleazy, foul mouthed morons, while the females are portrayed either as helpless victims or as aggressive, humourless ball busting feminazis,eg when the asylum centre manager emerges to meet the Inspector and her sidekick, (also female), they exclaim "I hate that arsehole". When the hapless manager addresses them as "Ban Gardaí", the sidekick says " Are ya ****in' stupid", and then the Inspector says with a po faced stare at him " You can call me Inspector". Love Hate was riveting, and you got really involved with the characters, and you could empathise with them. I have not found one redeeming feature so far in Taken down.

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Pythagorean wrote: »

I wonder if the writers of this series have any actual experience of crime investigations, because it seems to me that the toxic, rancorous expletive laden interaction between the characters is most unrealistic. The scene where Inspector Cooney interacts with the sergeant, when she is looking for extra surveillance exemplifies this, at the end of the rancour he shouts "I'm going for a piss". Would this happen in real life?. The male characters are portrayed as weak, sleazy, foul mouthed morons, while the females are portrayed either as helpless victims or as aggressive, humourless ball busting feminazis,eg when the asylum centre manager emerges to meet the Inspector and her sidekick, (also female), they exclaim "I hate that arsehole". When the hapless manager addresses them as "Ban Gardaí", the sidekick says " Are ya ****in' stupid", and then the Inspector says with a po faced stare at him " You can call me Inspector". Love Hate was riveting, and you got really involved with the characters, and you could empathise with them. I have not found one redeeming feature so far in Taken down.

Me either. There is nothing redeeming in Taken Down so far. It is boring, dull, depressing, actionless, humourless and stale. The gardai are reminiscent of that solicitor Tara in Striking Out. I was expecting Taken Down to be like Love/Hate with a few nods to The Handmaid's Tale but instead it is more like a Garda version of Striking Out.

I get the feeling that RTE banned season 6 of Love/Hate and went down the road for tamer dramas. When Stuart Carolan wrote/co-wrote Taken Down, RTE took it and toned down 90% of it you can be sure. RTE do not want to produce something they will get a few complaints about it would seem. If made a few years ago, Taken Down would have been aweseome and would have been a violent thriller about an international criminal organisation enslaving refugee women. Sadly though it is more like Striking Out as that is the type of drama RTE produce now.

When RTE can't tell a story in an unrestrained manner, they should not bother at all. What Taken Down should have done is continue with the same Garda character from Love/Hate played by Brian F O'Byrne. It would be a Love/Hate spinoff and about gangland involved in people smuggling. There was plenty scope for a Love/Hate spinoff but RTE as usual did not see this. Brian's Garda character is way superior to the clowns in Taken Down.

The topic of direct provision, refugees and the abuse of asylum seekers by gangsters is very interesting. Taken Down neither gives us a good knowledge of this world nor tells us a good story so far. It is just typical RTE half baked drama.

The big mistake is RTE's producers are turning Taken Down into an Amy Huberman-style TV version of chick lit. We are lucky Love/Hate was made before that mentality set in. It is a disgrace RTE are turning everything into bloody chick lit to cater for Amy Huberman and all the wannabe Amys.

older i get better i was

Very decent so far, but spare me Don wycherly