Breeders Cup 2018.

finbarrk

Just thinking of having one good bet. Mendelssohn in the Classic. 10/1.

Slattsy

Ground predicated to be very soft (sloppy), lots of rain forecast.

finbarrk

Slattsy wrote: »

Ground predicated to be very soft (sloppy), lots of rain forecast.

Well if it’s sloppy, I won’t be backing him.

akelly02

thats roaring lion ****ed so....and probably will make enable about 11/10 shot rather than the 1/2 she is now

kiers47

Enable has absolutely no problem with soft going. She goes on most ground. She will be more suited by cut in it than most of that field.

longshotvalue

Slattsy wrote: »

Ground predicated to be very soft (sloppy), lots of rain forecast.

Aperantly itll only be sloppy on the dirt if it actually rains the night before or on the day. Rain earlier in the week wont effect the track . supposedly ! .It would be a sickener if it turned out a stupid track on the night

akelly02

kiers47 wrote: »

Enable has absolutely no problem with soft going. She goes on most ground. She will be more suited by cut in it than most of that field.

maybe im panicking when i shouldnt be, you are right

kiers47

akelly02 wrote: »

maybe im panicking when i shouldnt be, you are right

Haha. If she is 11/10 you can unload the lot on it.

akelly02

kiers47 wrote: »

Haha. If she is 11/10 you can unload the lot on it.

ha id blow the load if she was that price against this bunch

tryfix

finbarrk wrote: »

Just thinking of having one good bet. Mendelssohn in the Classic. 10/1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvFLcwj73XM

There's an interesting clip there about Aidan's views on Mendelssohn. To my mind they have building all year and some of last year towards getting him placed in the Classic. Aidan has had a few placed in it so they know what it takes, but the whole Mendelssohn in the USA adventure seems to be a learning project designed to see if they can learn how to make successful raids on US Dirt racing in the future.


I like Catholic Boy for the Classic, he's a tough nut.

akelly02

Is this one on in the morning or night time (our time )?

tryfix

akelly02 wrote: »

Is this one on in the morning or night time (our time )?

The races are early enough. They start around 4.00 ( our time ) and the last race of the night tomorrow is the Breeders Cup Classic at 9.44 ( our time )


There's a good Breeder's Cup Juvenile Card on tonight. I fancy Line Of Duty to outpace Anthony Van Dyck and Just Wonderful is a decent enough price in the Juvenile Fillies Turf.

akelly02

i thought it was pm like 7 pm

sliabh 1956

We are 4 hours ahead of the time in Churchill Downs The first race to day is off at 3:21 pm so the time here will be 7:21 pm, Tomorrow the first race is at 12:00 pm so that is 4:00 pm Irish time so the Classic will be off at 9:44 pm Irish time

akelly02

Thank you so it is this evening then

kiers47

Polydream scratched from the mile. Probably saving me a few quid as i had her lined up for a bet i think. Gustav Klimpt now fav. Id be wanting to take him on anyway.

sliabh 1956

akelly02 wrote: »

Thank you so it is this evening then

It is to be sure

kiers47

More info on Polydream. She was scratched by state vet's due to being lame in a foreleg. Freddie Head has blasted them saying this is how she always moves and asked the vets to come see her doing a track gallop which they wouldn't do.

Head seems fairly pissed about the whole thing. An absolute farce if this is how it has played out.

Here is the article for anyone interested
http://live.drf.com/nuggets/45937-polydream-to-trainer-freddie-head-s-great-displeasure-is-scratched-from-bc-mile

irishgoat

Just having a look at some of the usa stuff.

7.21 Churchill downs, I'm not really keen on either soldiers call or Sergei Prokofiev. I'm less keen on soldiers call and will lay it. Currently around 4.6. Watson has had some winners but ultimately the stable has been hit or miss and the extra furlong this evening will be too far I reckon against good horses.

8.00 Churchill downs, Newspaperofrecord, currently around 2.36 but I'm laying it currently. From the mighty chad brown stable, the horse will try to make all and give them the slip. Over shorter I'd say yes but over the mile I feel it something will come and get it. Might be the o brien horse just wonderful but to me the race looks wide open.

9.22 Churchill downs, I'm going to have a double play in this race. Line of Duty, it won @ a mile but I just feel it' will be better over further, I'll be laying it, currently around 4.6
In the same race, I really like Anthony Van Dyck and I'll be backing it to win, currently around 4.0. Ran 3rd to Too darn hot over 7f which I thought was on the short side for it, but previously pissed up by 8 lengths over 1mile.

10.05 Churchill downs, looks a match between game winner and complexity. I've been focusing more so on game winner in my form study and I think it will be beaten. I suppose it would make sense to back complexity if thats the case but I'm sticking with the lay on Gamer winner, currently around 2.6.

I really love the breeders cup and us racing in general, I follow it keenly and I'm really looking forward to watching it tonight.

Slattsy

Is it being streamed online like previous years on the official site?

Slattsy

Is it being streamed online like previous years on the official site?

ANDREWMUFC

Took most of savings out of post office account earlier to put on NewspaperOfRecord in the 8pm, could end badly or could pay for a new car

tinpib

Slattsy wrote: »

Is it being streamed online like previous years on the official site?

Never even thought of that. Looks like it is, race coming up at 637pm, but racing post only starts the card at the races of interest to us which is the 721pm.


http://www.breederscup.com/

kiers47

tinpib wrote: »

Never even thought of that. Looks like it is, race coming up at 637pm, but racing post only starts the card at the races of interest to us which is the 721pm.


http://www.breederscup.com/

The races before are just a regular Churhill Downs card. The official Breeders cup only starts at the 7:21 race.

mailburner

ANDREWMUFC wrote: »

Took most of savings out of post office account earlier to put on NewspaperOfRecord in the 8pm, could end badly or could pay for a new car

If this is true...well wear!

irishgoat

That Newspaperofrecord, good money for it, into 2.18'ish now. I've already layed @ 2.4. I still feel (convinced) it will go off all guns blazing and something will catch it up the straight. Going to lay it again at this low price. I didn't expect it to be such a low price.

gillamandango

This is the best juvenile filly in North America, good luck with your lay but I hope you don't do your nuts on this one as there are worse 5/4 shots out there to lay..This filly is special

To add, front running at this track is an advantage

irishgoat wrote: »

That Newspaperofrecord, good money for it, into 2.18'ish now. I've already layed @ 2.4. I still feel (convinced) it will go off all guns blazing and something will catch it up the straight. Going to lay it again at this low price. I didn't expect it to be such a low price.

Slattsy

ANDREWMUFC wrote: »

Took most of savings out of post office account earlier to put on NewspaperOfRecord in the 8pm, could end badly or could pay for a new car

Considering the max you can take out of a PO in one day is 3k, you wont be getting a new car at those odds :pac:

irishgoat

gillamandango wrote: »

This is the best juvenile filly in North America, good luck with your lay but I hope you don't do your nuts on this one as there are worse 5/4 shots out there to lay..This filly is special

I'm not doubting it's a very very good horse and when you look at it on paper you think what in this race can touch this horse, but when I dig deeper and look at the split times, I feel it can be beaten. It will tear off like the hounds of hell tonight and as I said in my post earlier, if it was over 7f I'd lump on to win but over the mile I personally think it can be caught. I'm looking forward to it.

mailburner

Slattsy wrote: »

Considering the max you can take out of a PO in one day is 3k, you wont be getting a new car at those odds :pac:

:pac:

My 80 year wait for a winner ends in 29 mins btw

tryfix

That juvenile Turf sprint shows the need to take the rose tinted glasses off when assessing the European runners' chances at this meeting. If a clatter of the fastest European Juveniles were left for dust by the yanks on the European's favourite surface then there's a mountain to be climbed for any European runners in all but the easiest of the Turf races at this meeting.

Slattsy

Small bet on Spencer in the next here for a small interest.

Lay all of Moore's rides

gazza1

20s for The Mackem Bullet is hard to resist even if the distance is an unknown

Fanny Wank

Newspaperofrecord being smashed. Odds on now even on the machine

Slattsy

Actually changed my bet and went for the French yolk e/w

Watched her last run and see can her finishing well here and running into a place, after struggling with early pace.

Whiplash85

Huge difference in betting on track in US than over here. Newspaperofrecord twice the price over here.

irishgoat

If I had to back something e.w it would be concrete rose 12.5 on the exchange, not sure what price with the bookmakers. Really looking forward to seeing how fast this fav gets out in front..

kiers47

FYI also for anyone not familiar with US racing or breeders cup it can sometimes pay to take the US tote dividend (pmu) rather than our traditional bookies prices if betting European horses. This race being very much a case for that with the fav taking out so much of the market there.

gillamandango

I read it differently, she doesn't have to lead but will be close up and then quicken away in the finish

irishgoat wrote: »

If I had to back something e.w it would be concrete rose 12.5 on the exchange, not sure what price with the bookmakers. Really looking forward to seeing how fast this fav gets out in front..

gillamandango

Wow

gillamandango wrote: »

I read it differently, she doesn't have to lead but will be close up and then quicken away in the finish

irishgoat

wow, impressive!

TheMilkyPirate

My god

mailburner

ANDREWMUFC wrote: »

Took most of savings out of post office account earlier to put on NewspaperOfRecord in the 8pm, could end badly or could pay for a new car

vroom vroom!

Slattsy

Jizz

gillamandango

:D Everywhere no doubt

Slattsy wrote: »

Jizz

kiers47

Jesus that was something else.

tryfix

Gobsmacking.... Never saw a Gp1 won with such authority.

Fanny Wank

I'm not a flat fan and even I was impressed there

gazza1

All I can say is Holy Jayzus.......What a performance

ANDREWMUFC

Sensational

ASOT

ANDREWMUFC wrote: »

Sensational

Well done pal.

Lads that was a phenomenal win.