Sopranos Mafia - Family Redefined - GAME THREAD

Holly WW

Everyone can we all give a shout out to Oisin (RIP) only for his stellar peeks we wouldn't be where we are today because of it.

When the village needed it he gave us a hell of a helping hand.

Holly WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

Holly, in our downtime, can i have a word?

Sure thing Ewan, what's up?

Ewan WW

Just before I pop back to work. Just a little puzzled.

Ive no solid reads on anyone, and Im just trying to work things out in my head. Im still puzzled at this mornings Oisin thing.

Why were you so confident he was bad?

Im not throwing shade, im sure your confirmed. Its just i find it odd.

I was hesitant to believe him one way or the other, but you were so sure and quick to denouncing it as fake. Why?

Holly WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

Just before I pop back to work. Just a little puzzled.

Ive no solid reads on anyone, and Im just trying to work things out in my head. Im still puzzled at this mornings Oisin thing.

Why were you so confident he was bad?

Im not throwing shade, im sure your confirmed. Its just i find it odd.

I was hesitant to believe him one way or the other, but you were so sure and quick to denouncing it as fake. Why?

And this is the 3rd time I'm explaining it to you. A seer usual waits until 9.59 to come out. By coming out when he did he opened himself up for a munch or a finger trigger happy FBI Sniper. Coming out earlier doesn't seem like a fake role reveal. But it turns out he was just too excited as of who he peeked.

Now I'm happy to admin I jumped the gun claiming it was a fake role reveal but it wasn't just me that said that, yet you continue to throw shade myway despite me shooting the sniper and Paulie!

But we all know why you want me gone don't we

Ewan WW

Holly WW wrote: »

And this is the 3rd time I'm explaining it to you. A seer usual waits until 9.59 to come out. By coming out when he did he opened himself up for a munch or a finger trigger happy FBI Sniper. Coming out earlier doesn't seem like a fake role reveal. But it turns out he was just too excited as of who he peeked.

Now I'm happy to admin I jumped the gun claiming it was a fake role reveal but it wasn't just me that said that, yet you continue to throw shade myway despite me shooting the sniper and Paulie!

But we all know why you want me gone don't we

Again.... not throwing shade. Im curious. Your confirmed, I stated that on my post. I accept you are good. You cant be bad.

It just struck me as odd. Is that ok? Can I not ask questions? Can I not try get my head around things

Ewan WW

And Holly, if youve something to say, come out with it. Dont beat around the bush.

Holly WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

And Holly, if youve something to say, come out with it. Dont beat around the bush.

Triggered wolf is triggered

Ewan WW

Ah please, Holly. Just because your confirmed doesnt mean youre a good villager. Youre a villager. Had you not been confirmed Id be calling you a wolf based off the rest of your play.

Holly WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

Ah please, Holly. Just because your confirmed doesnt mean youre a good villager. Youre a villager. Had you not been confirmed Id be calling you a wolf based off the rest of your play.

There is no bad villagers. Only bad wolves... like you and your buddies.

I'm coming for you Ewan... Once Liam and Winnie are gone.. you're next on my ITA hitlist

Ewan WW

Holly WW wrote: »

There is no bad villagers. Only bad wolves... like you and your buddies.

I'm coming for you Ewan... Once Liam and Winnie are gone.. you're next on my ITA hitlist

If you wanna prove me right, go ahead and shoot.

Holly WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Without revealing too much. Wendy’s a wolf.

Ewan WW wrote: »

If you wanna prove me right, go ahead and shoot.

See you tomorrow 1pm

Send me regards to Paulie when you meet him.

Ewan WW

Holly WW wrote: »

See you tomorrow 1pm

Send me regards to Paulie when you meet him.

Ah is your pride hurt because I called you a poor villager.

Gabriel WW

So, lynching Liam tonight: great.

His role reveal will tell us if Chris is in WP or not.

If he's still Mafia then I reckon he was telling the truth about Winifred and she's Orla's other half and she should die asap. Phil will maybe have made up his mind by then whether to use a bullet for that game period, or to protect, so could off Winifred at his pleasure (might want to wait so wolves don't know there's no BG protection though).

What if Liam is FBI? Why would Chris give up his own team-mate like that? Are we sure that Winifred is FBI then? So much going on around ITA time, but the whole Orla posting in the "wrong" account thing, could that have been done on purpose to make us think that she was also Winifred, when actually she wasn't? Orla's a canny player and I wouldn't put it past her (she presumably found 2 out of 3 Mafia to bring to WP). Is there another way we should go if Liam does turn out to be with the FBI? Should we start looking at the low posters like Clodagh, Henry, Desmond again?

Holly WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

Ah is your pride hurt because I called you a poor villager.

Not at all... you're trying to distract from your hairy buddies and I don't blame you, you're prob rattled at the moment between ITAs and the seer reveal.

It's ok tho we'll take care of Liam and Winnie and then I'll be back to you, until then I don't need to prove anything to you, I'm a proven villager you're just trying to distract the village and cast shade on me.

See you tomorrow at 1.

Ewan WW

My reads right now

Wini - still think shes good and Liam is full of it. I felt her play was too carefree to be a wolf. That said she came alive during the afternoon more so than any other time previous to that. Im still thinking nrv

Derry - its weird, very villagery but I get the sense someone is playing us. On the last few games Ive been shocked someone was a wolf. Derry could be the shock thos game. More of a guess tham a read as I think theyve been very team village. Soz Derry its my gut.

Jake - same as yesterday, slight wolf lean. Wanna see more more from them before condeming them. They have done nothing for the village yet, very little.contribution. dont wanna condemn them just yet

Henry Clodagh. Both low posters. Henrys done a bit more today than previous but again has been under most radars. Clodagh is agian missing

Id be again inclined to vote for one of these tomorrow as they haven't got stuck in to help out one way or another.

Gabriel WW

It'd be so much easier if Liam / Chris turns out to just be Mafia. Note too that he voted for Winifred in yesterday's lynch, so maybe he is Mafia.

Holly WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

My reads right now

Wini - still think shes good and Liam is full of it. I felt her play was too carefree to be a wolf. That said she came alive during the afternoon more so than any other time previous to that. Im still thinking nrv.

Orla WW wrote: »

Hi everyone. I know im coming under a lot of heat here because of Liam saying im in the FBI but im not.

The FBI actually tried to convert me on Tuesday morning and i got to see their shared room.

The snitch is in there with whomever is controlling the Orla account. I obviously dont know who the other FBI account is. They have kept their identities secret from each other.

The only other thing i learned is that the FBI seemed open to coordinating with the Mafia, but i dont know if they actually did coordinate anything.

The Ewan misfire by both wolf teams wasnt planned. Apparently the Mafia changed to Ewan at the last minute, and the FBI had him in for a hit as a placeholder.

Anyway, i think we can afford a mislynch, so please kill me if you think we can get away with it. Once you do, Desmond or Clodagh should be the next to die.

Brendan WW wrote: »

So you or Orla was in witness protection? Hard to keep up tbh

Barbara WW wrote: »

Orla, you do know it was Oisin that said you were FBI.

And Liam said that Wini was FBI.

Right?

You....you didn't just post that on the wrong account, did you?

Seriously Euwan how can you think Winny is a NRV when all of his posting today pretty much proved him and Orla were the one person...

Seriously try harder wolfy.

Brendan WW

We have a core of Mary, Gab and Holly.

We've one or two other roled players who can potentially prove themselves and an active BG. Eliminate the known in Liam and Winny. Ewan is ropey, then we've got a big pool of unknowns.

Ewan WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Seriously Euwan how can you think Winny is a NRV when all of his posting today pretty much proved him and Orla were the one person...

Seriously try harder wolfy.

Im sticking to my call. Her behaviour up until today suggests shes nrv. Very odd and drawing attention to herself with strange posts. I stamd by my view.

Ewan WW

Indulge me

We have a wolf and fed saying wini is bad.

Yeah it must be true.

Lets say Wini was peaked Tonys quack, she might have came back as a roled goodie.

Ewan WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Seriously Euwan how can you think Winny is a NRV when all of his posting today pretty much proved him and Orla were the one person...

Seriously try harder wolfy.

Your not seriously falling for that are you.

Think.

Ewan WW

Show me proof from Winis account that she looks like a Fed.

All you have is Liams word and a 'slip' by Orla.

Youre being lead by the baddies.

Holly WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

Show me proof from Winis account that she looks like a Fed.

All you have is Liams word and a 'slip' by Orla.

Youre being lead by the baddies.

Derry WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

My reads right now

Wini - still think shes good and Liam is full of it. I felt her play was too carefree to be a wolf. That said she came alive during the afternoon more so than any other time previous to that. Im still thinking nrv

Derry - its weird, very villagery but I get the sense someone is playing us. On the last few games Ive been shocked someone was a wolf. Derry could be the shock thos game. More of a guess tham a read as I think theyve been very team village. Soz Derry its my gut.

Jake - same as yesterday, slight wolf lean. Wanna see more more from them before condeming them. They have done nothing for the village yet, very little.contribution. dont wanna condemn them just yet

Henry Clodagh. Both low posters. Henrys done a bit more today than previous but again has been under most radars. Clodagh is agian missing

Id be again inclined to vote for one of these tomorrow as they haven't got stuck in to help out one way or another.

Oh no. Ewan. If you're going to do a read list, do some actual reads.

You basically suggested me, who's been working my ass off for team village and then made a waffly jab at the low posters.

There have been shocks in the past, but they are usually when people we are 'certain' of turn out to be wolves. I'm still an unknown to everyone but me.

The village now has 3 'locked' villagers and a few people seem to be reading me as team village. You tried throwing shade at Holly and now you're throwing shade at me. You'd have been better off building a case against some of the mid range posters. You are looking all kinds of hairy right now.

Barbara WW

Ewan is someone I've a few flags up about at the moment.

Not just throwing shade at Holly this morning, but also tying to downplay Liam's slip last night, which in retrospect is even worse now.

Brendan WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

Indulge me

We have a wolf and fed saying wini is bad.

Yeah it must be true.

Lets say Wini was peaked Tonys quack, she might have came back as a roled goodie.

She had 9 posts yesterday when she tried to play the newb. Two of her previous posts suggested she was not a newb at all. This is why she originally was zoned in on. She disappeared and returned acting strangely around the time off Orlas demise. She's dodge and your defence of her is somewhat dodge

Holly WW

Barbara WW wrote: »

Ewan is someone I've a few flags up about at the moment.

Not just throwing shade at Holly this morning, but also tying to downplay Liam's slip last night, which in retrospect is even worse now.

And he's trying to downplay Winnie's role as well.

Kill Ewan in the ITAs tomorrow. Ewan is a wolf.

Derry WW

Gabriel WW wrote: »

So, lynching Liam tonight: great.

His role reveal will tell us if Chris is in WP or not.

If he's still Mafia then I reckon he was telling the truth about Winifred and she's Orla's other half and she should die asap. Phil will maybe have made up his mind by then whether to use a bullet for that game period, or to protect, so could off Winifred at his pleasure (might want to wait so wolves don't know there's no BG protection though).

What if Liam is FBI? Why would Chris give up his own team-mate like that? Are we sure that Winifred is FBI then? So much going on around ITA time, but the whole Orla posting in the "wrong" account thing, could that have been done on purpose to make us think that she was also Winifred, when actually she wasn't? Orla's a canny player and I wouldn't put it past her (she presumably found 2 out of 3 Mafia to bring to WP). Is there another way we should go if Liam does turn out to be with the FBI? Should we start looking at the low posters like Clodagh, Henry, Desmond again?

Couple of things in here. I originally felt like Liam slipped in giving us Wini. He thought he'd die after Adriana and gave up some info. Now I'm not so sure on that. I'm totally with you on Orla maybe deliberately posting from the 'wrong' account. It'd be entirely in 'her' character. So with that in mind, I'm looking at the post in question. I'd say there is double and triple bluff in this work of fiction:

Orla WW wrote: »

Hi everyone. I know im coming under a lot of heat here because of Liam saying im in the FBI but im not.

The FBI actually tried to convert me on Tuesday morning and i got to see their shared room.

The snitch is in there with whomever is controlling the Orla account. I obviously dont know who the other FBI account is. They have kept their identities secret from each other.

The only other thing i learned is that the FBI seemed open to coordinating with the Mafia, but i dont know if they actually did coordinate anything.

The Ewan misfire by both wolf teams wasnt planned. Apparently the Mafia changed to Ewan at the last minute, and the FBI had him in for a hit as a placeholder.

Anyway, i think we can afford a mislynch, so please kill me if you think we can get away with it. Once you do, Desmond or Clodagh should be the next to die.

I think the mention of Ewan here is a ploy. Ewan could be Tony which Orla could know from a failed conversion attempt, or Ewan is the other half of FBI. Ewan defends Wini and gains villager points if Wini is killed and shows as not FBI? I dunno. Either way I am skeptical af

Brendan WW

Holly WW wrote: »

And he's trying to downplay Winnie's role as well.

Kill Ewan in the ITAs tomorrow. Ewan is a wolf.

Liam
Winny
Ewan is current order of proceedings in my head.

Is there still 5 wolves left to take out? Or more? Having a hazy day today

Gabriel WW

Well, here's another thing on Ewan, from way back in the beginning.

He claimed Clodagh was wolf, 100%, he said. Now, we don't know if Clodagh is wolf or not yet, but he retracted his statement later. He said it was to lure somebody in to a trap, but that nobody fell in to it. Except one person did, Wendy, who now is a proven wolf.

The statement, the retraction, the "not noticing" Wendy falling in to the trap. What, if anything, does this tell us about Ewan's allegiances, and Clodagh's, come to that?

I am half (or quarter?) minded to agree with Ewan on Wini though, she's nearly too ballsy to be a wolf, and we only have Liam and Orla saying that she's FBI. I don't think she's a rolled goodie. But part of me does think that she's just a bored NRV.