customs holding package

edwardkiley

hello

I ordered a supplement from a US based company. It was shipped from the US on the 8th of october. Its still not here yet and I am wondering if there is a problem with it in customs. I have the USPS tracking and the last update was the 18th of october where it said "your item departed a transfer airport in dublin, your item is currently in transit to its destination".. It did not say it was going to customs but I assume it has as it would of been delivered by now. how long does customs usually take? does usps usually not say its gone to customs?

I tried to track it on the an post website but they have no record of it.

how long should i wait before I contact customs about this

thanks

kirving

What's the supplement?

vandriver

Might it be considered a medicine?

troyzer

First post.

RED ALERT!!

edwardkiley

It's not a prescribed medicine even though they might think it is.

It says on the package its for research uses and not consumption so I thought there would not be a problem.

How should I contact them to ask if there is a problem or should I just wait longer?

edwardkiley

Kevin Irving wrote: »

What's the supplement?

It's piracetam. It's not a prescribed medicine. Maybe they think it is though.

troyzer

edwardkiley wrote: »

It's piracetam. It's not a prescribed medicine. Maybe they think it is though.

Piracetam is prescribed in the UK, I imagine it is in Ireland as well.

L1011

Medicines of any kind - prescribed, OTC, unlicenced - cannot be brought in to the country by mail. If it is with customs it'll have been passed to the HPRA; the item will be destroyed and you'll get a letter from the HPRA but realistically nothing will come of it unless you're caught again.

The lack of updates is probably because there is no code for "item is with regulatory body".

edwardkiley

L1011 wrote: »

Medicines of any kind - prescribed, OTC, unlicenced - cannot be brought in to the country by mail. If it is with customs it'll have been passed to the HPRA; the item will be destroyed and you'll get a letter from the HPRA but realistically nothing will come of it unless you're caught again.

The lack of updates is probably because there is no code for "item is with regulatory body".

It's not for medical purposes and where does it say no medicines can be brought into the county by mail.

Fck this nanny state.

When will I get a letter from the hpra would you say?

troyzer

edwardkiley wrote: »

It's not for medical purposes and where does it say no medicines can be brought into the county by mail.

Fck this nanny state.

When will I get a letter from the hpra would you say?

It's medicine, what else would you be using it for?

vandriver

The first thing that Google throws up...
'Piracetam is a medicine that belongs to the category of cognitive enhancers.'

edwardkiley

troyzer wrote: »

It's medicine, what else would you be using it for?

Research, measuring concentrations through IR spectroscopy

edwardkiley

vandriver wrote: »

The first thing that Google throws up...
'Piracetam is a medicine that belongs to the category of cognitive enhancers.'

I read online though it's only prescription medicines that can't be bought online

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edwardkiley wrote: »

Research, measuring concentrations through IR spectroscopy

So why can you not access it through the correct academic bodies?

troyzer

....... wrote: »

So why can you not access it through the correct academic bodies?

Yeah, it wouldn't be that hard. I've worked with otherwise restricted materials before for research.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

edwardkiley wrote: »

It's not for medical purposes and where does it say no medicines can be brought into the county by mail.

?

It's a medicine, so by default it's for medical use.

edwardkiley

troyzer wrote: »

Yeah, it wouldn't be that hard. I've worked with otherwise restricted materials before for research.

What bodies do you get them through?

granturismo

edwardkiley wrote: »

Research, measuring concentrations through IR spectroscopy

Unless you have a spectroscope in your bat cave, Sigma will sell this chemical so there was no need for any company or educational institute to order it from the US.

troyzer

edwardkiley wrote: »

What bodies do you get them through?

My university at the time?

ED E

Nootropics :rolleyes:

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edwardkiley wrote: »

What bodies do you get them through?

Whoever you are associated with for the research - the university or if its a private company, then the company you are working for.

You seem to be trying to import medicines as a private individual which is not allowed.

L1011

edwardkiley wrote: »

I read online though it's only prescription medicines that can't be bought online

"bought online" and "brought in to the country via post/courier" are two different things. You can buy OTC products online from domestic retailers. Even medicine you have a prescription for can only be brought in in person, not by post/courier. Same applies to lots of other things - cigarettes, alcohol for instance. Both of those can be bought online domestically also.

If you are purchasing these for scientific research purposes, you are not a consumer by definition. Talk to your institution about how they obtain and import material under licence.

edwardkiley

Well can anyone with experience tell me if customs stops your item does it usually not show up on usps tracking?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

edwardkiley wrote: »

Research, measuring concentrations through IR spectroscopy

It ain't proper research if you have to source materials yourself on the Internet.


Poor effort.

edwardkiley

Caylee Thundering Rake wrote: »

It ain't proper research if you have to source materials yourself on the Internet.


Poor effort.

How does that define proper research

edwardkiley

The amount of regulation discourages scientific research.

Fck this country can't wait till I get out of it

troyzer

edwardkiley wrote: »

The amount of regulation discourages scientific research.

Fck this country can't wait till I get out of it

Can you explain why you have access to a spectrometer but not to an institution which can source the materials for you?

granturismo

edwardkiley wrote: »

The amount of regulation discourages scientific research.

Fck this country can't wait till I get out of it

Can you post a link to the product you ordered? thanks

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edwardkiley wrote: »

The amount of regulation discourages scientific research.

Fck this country can't wait till I get out of it

But you wouldnt face the kind of regulation you face as a private individual if you were working through the proper channels.

It will be the same in any country

RiseToMe

edwardkiley wrote: »

Well can anyone with experience tell me if customs stops your item does it usually not show up on usps tracking?

It may get a "with customs" status but they can be hit and miss.

Get in touch with Revenue for future imports, they will come out assess your set up and give you a letter of authorisation, they'll want to see your destruction process and witness it on a rolling basis for all destruction. That's what we've done anyway. Assuming it is actually research purpose.

edwardkiley

Im in college doing medicinal chemistry, I have not asked them yet but I have already asked them fro something else related to research so I would not like to bother them with this aswell.

The spec is in the lab. I dont have the calibrated wavelengths so Im not even sure if its accurate way to measure concentration but I guess I wont be finding out.

edwardkiley

....... wrote: »

But you wouldnt face the kind of regulation you face as a private individual if you were working through the proper channels.

It will be the same in any country

no its not the same in any country. people in the uk buy racetam compounds without any trouble.

I was talking to some guy from germany who bought the exact same product I bought from the same source and he said it came through no problem all he had to do was pay an import fee.

this country is a piece of sh1t. no freedom.

edwardkiley

RiseToMe wrote: »

It may get a "with customs" status but they can be hit and miss.

Get in touch with Revenue for future imports, they will come out assess your set up and give you a letter of authorisation, they'll want to see your destruction process and witness it on a rolling basis for all destruction. That's what we've done anyway. Assuming it is actually research purpose.

but there has been no updates at all since arriving in dublin. I have seen from other posts on this website people get told on tracking its being sent to customs. but maybe that was because it was not with usps.

also I am confused cause the supplier said to me he sent the product to lots of people in ireland before with no problems.

how long does it take the hpra/customs to send a letter to me letter does anyone know?

edwardkiley

also is there any chance they could send it back to the supplier so I can get a refund?

troyzer

Everything you've just said can be explained by the fact that a lot of the time, they get through undetected and you're the unlucky one.

arrianalexander

edwardkiley wrote: »

no its not the same in any country. people in the uk buy racetam compounds without any trouble.

I was talking to some guy from germany who bought the exact same product I bought from the same source and he said it came through no problem all he had to do was pay an import fee.

this country is a piece of sh1t. no freedom.

I'm sorry, the laws and regulations are there to protect influx of medicine that may or may not be approved etc

No one is saying you can't obtain what you want , you just have to go through the correct channels which in this case would be your university.

I assume the ethics committee of the University will raise questions where you sourced your material and then will question why didn't you go through the correct channels.

Approach the University, and ask and let them guide you

Best of luck with your research

L1011

edwardkiley wrote: »

also is there any chance they could send it back to the supplier so I can get a refund?

Not a hope.

If it has been stopped, by the time the letter arrives it will have been destroyed.

edwardkiley

arrianalexander wrote: »

I'm sorry, the laws and regulations are there to protect influx of medicine that may or may not be approved etc

No one is saying you can't obtain what you want , you just have to go through the correct channels which in this case would be your university.

I assume the ethics committee of the University will raise questions where you sourced your material and then will question why didn't you go through the correct channels.

Approach the University, and ask and let them guide you

Best of luck with your research

the laws are not there to protect me, its to keep the money going to irish pharmacies. I should be allowed to take the risk it should be my own choice. the supplier i got off had US COAs which I looked through before and had 98% assays.

arrianalexander

edwardkiley wrote: »

the laws are not there to protect me, its to keep the money going to irish pharmacies. I should be allowed to take the risk it should be my own choice. the supplier i got off had US COAs which I looked through before and had 98% assays.

It's your opinion you should be unfortunately it is not , I'm not saying you are right or wrong but this is why customs have taken your order as per your original question of where the item have gone to .

My advise would as early go through the University to source it if you want to continue the research. They will advise both on sourcing and what will be acceptable sourcing for the material

Hopefully you will get your research done, best of luck

The Hound Gone Wild

You're studying pharmaceutical chemistry and you're wondering why it's a bad idea for the general public to have access to mail order drugs with unknown origin?

Also you're studying pharmaceutical chemistry and you want to take piracetam as a study aid?

Jesus.

spurious

The Hound Gone Wild wrote: »

You're studying pharmaceutical chemistry and you're wondering why it's a bad idea for the general public to have access to mail order drugs with unknown origin?

Also you're studying pharmaceutical chemistry and you want to take piracetam as a study aid?

Jesus.

This x 1000.

edwardkiley

The Hound Gone Wild wrote: »

You're studying pharmaceutical chemistry and you're wondering why it's a bad idea for the general public to have access to mail order drugs with unknown origin?

Also you're studying pharmaceutical chemistry and you want to take piracetam as a study aid?

Jesus.

ye they should be allowed to have access to them, its up to people to do there own research and make informed decisions other wise everyone suffers like i am right now. piracetam is harmless in Ld50s so there is no risk. the origin is known if you look into it. I looked at there syth pathways in the COAs and there was no risk of toxic by products. they took the necessary steps in the
recrystallizing process to exclude the contaminants which were not soluble in ethanol.

I want to take piracetam to see its in vivo biological effects. Im into drug design so I want to know if cylic or pyrrolidine derivatives of GABA are even worthwhile. i am thinking about doing a synth for a succinimide group bonded N on GABA but to see if these are worthwhile i have to do them myself.

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edwardkiley wrote: »

no its not the same in any country. people in the uk buy racetam compounds without any trouble.

I was talking to some guy from germany who bought the exact same product I bought from the same source and he said it came through no problem all he had to do was pay an import fee.

this country is a piece of sh1t. no freedom.

You know that you are as free as a bird to move to Germany if you wish?

L1011

This thread has run its course and was never an actual consumer issue anyway