Munster vs Gloucester, Sat 20th Oct 1pm, VM One / BT Sport 2

AdamD

Dreadful decision

pickarooney

Pain in the hole all these replays and cards over absolutely nothing.

Embarrassing for red 13.

shootermacg

Shambles so far

razorblunt

Well finished, Sweetnam and Conway both took the maximum from their carries.

budhabob

Good to get in for the try, is that Haley's first in red?

Great pressure, good try.

Faugheen

For all the crying that was done in the last couple of weeks, the referee has been very kind to Munster today.

They've been well on top since the yellow but Gloucester had a perfectly acceptable jackel attempt told to leave it in the build up to that try.

DDC1990

pickarooney wrote:

Embarrassing for red 13.

Yeah seriously embarrassing to get a shoulder to the head at a ruck.

budhabob

Great clear out by Williams, some good tackling by him so far....poor passing though at times as usual

Faugheen

DDC1990 wrote: »

pickarooney wrote:

Embarrassing for red 13.

Yeah seriously embarrassing to get a shoulder to the head at a ruck.

It hit his back but alright.

razorblunt

Faugheen wrote: »

For all the crying that was done in the last couple of weeks, the referee has been very kind to Munster today.

They've been well on top since the yellow but Gloucester had a perfectly acceptable jackel attempt told to leave it in the build up to that try.

Leave it, man. Any old excuse to stick the knife in.
The yellow was harsh, but Gloucester won a penalty when they should have given one away leading to the rolling maul too.

Peregrine

Faugheen wrote: »

It hit his back but alright.

You must be French.

DDC1990

DDC1990 wrote: »

Yeah seriously embarrassing to get a shoulder to the head at a ruck.

So perhaps a HIA would be needed.

razorblunt

Jesus, Williams' passing is shocking.

Really missing Cloete in a game like this.

DDC1990

Faugheen wrote:

It hit his back but alright.

His back? Are you looking at Banahans clear out after? First clearouts right shoulder hits Goggin in the head or high neck area and his head snapped back. No problem with Banahans one after. They flew in, in similar ways but Banahan made no high contact.

razorblunt

Polledri trying to break Beirne's fingers in the maul.
Classic shenanigans.

DDC1990

Embarrassing from Scannell there as well I suppose? Shoulder to the face is red.

Clegg

That's at least a yellow for Cipriani.

Same as the Kaino challenge.

Heymans

Jean kleyne starting to bring some heavy carries

razorblunt

The backrow are not getting to breakdowns at all quickly.


Now THAT's a red.

Mookie Blaylock

Munster starting to go thru the gears a little

Kristopherus

This could be red.

Clegg

Lol Cipriani.

Faugheen

DDC1990 wrote: »

Embarrassing from Scannell there as well I suppose? Shoulder to the face is red.

Two completely different challenges.

Don't think you'll hear many complaining about that red, but the yellow was soft as f*ck.

Scythica

Letter of the law... ok sure red.
If anyone genuinely believes that should be a red then i despair. At the speed and height he was running into the shoulder rather than the other way around.

Mookie Blaylock

These new rules are ruining the game I'm afraid

Buer

Luke Fitzgerald is pissing himself laughing.

Dave_The_Sheep

Cipriani, you idiot.

AdamD

Faugheen wrote: »

Two completely different challenges.

Don't think you'll hear many complaining about that red, but the yellow was soft as f*ck.

Agreed, completely different.

That's the game. It is a red, harsh generally speaking but consistent with what we've seen so far this season.

Inspector Coptoor

Never a red

Game ruined.

touts

I'm Munster to the core but bloody hell that's a harsh red. I know player safety is paramount these days but.....

mangobob

Cipriani. Unbelievable. For all his talent, the man is just a car crash.

That should be game Munster now.

Scythica

Letter of the law... ok sure red.
If anyone genuinely believes that should be a red then i despair. At the speed and height he was running into the shoulder rather than the other way around.

Scythica

Letter of the law... ok sure red.
If anyone genuinely believes that should be a red then i despair. At the speed and height he was running into the shoulder rather than the other way around.

Clegg

I enjoy watching Cipriani's continuing struggles against Irish opposition. A few years ago it was getting sidestepped by Furlong now it's the red card.

pickarooney

DDC1990 wrote: »

Embarrassing from Scannell there as well I suppose? Shoulder to the face is red.

Scannell got a shoulder to the face and didn't go flailing and shouting to the ref so no, not remotely comparable.

Red card, letter of the law, whatever, the game is becoming unwatchable at this rate.

Kiith

What is Cipriani supposed to do there? Jump out of the way? Harsh imo, but the letter of the law says it's red.

Dave_The_Sheep

Kiith wrote: »

What is Cipriani supposed to do there?

Go lower? Attempt to wrap his right arm?

Clareman

Scythica wrote: »

Letter of the law... ok sure red.
If anyone genuinely believes that should be a red then i despair. At the speed and height he was running into the shoulder rather than the other way around.

Watch the body position for everyone else, they are low below shoulder level, it's the tackles responsibility for getting into the right position,

Heymans

The game is turning into a game for pansies. In my day that was a good hit. Teams’ size will start to count against them if the rules changes continue in this direction. It will be s game for small nimble players and size won’t count any more

Mookie Blaylock

Scythica wrote: »

Letter of the law... ok sure red.
If anyone genuinely believes that should be a red then i despair. At the speed and height he was running into the shoulder rather than the other way around.

We heard you the first 2 times!

Clareman

Kiith wrote: »

What is Cipriani supposed to do there? Jump out of the way? Harsh imo, but the letter of the law says it's red.

Get low, like everyone else

Very little Cipriani could have done there on repeat viewing. Shoulders to head need to be minimised but situations like that are pretty much unavoidable. Hard to know what the right thing to do is.

Faugheen

Sorry but Twelvetrees should be going here as well.

Clareman

Jaysus another card

LuckyGent88

That’s more of a red than ciprianis. This game has been so stop start it’s a joke.

2smiggy

touts wrote: »

I'm Munster to the core but bloody hell that's a harsh red. I know player safety is paramount these days but.....

Same as you. If they are going to penalise every thing on replays it's going to get ridiculous.

Buer

Gloucester have no fight in them now. This could be a 30 point margin.

Clareman

Heymans wrote: »

The game is turning into a game for pansies. In my day that was a good hit. Teams’ size will start to count against them if the rules changes continue in this direction. It will be s game for small nimble players and size won’t count any more

In my day players weren't add fast or big or professional, players have to be protected or else we'll have some serious brain damage