ios 12 a disgrace

Oxter

I have used iphones since the 4 came out and on every release of iOS queried why its impossible to block calls with no caller id.
This is now a feature on even the cheapest Androids.

I finally switched last Saturday to a Galaxy.

Reason i chose it was the Samsung SmartSwitch app for Galaxy which downloads all contacts photos etc from iCloud and updates the Galaxy.

Next step this evening is to get the Itunes music transferred.

Will Apple ever give their phones basic phone functions?

godtabh

Mine iPhone can make/receive calls and texts. Does your not?

I think apple have the basics covered!

davo2001

godtabh wrote: »

Mine iPhone can make/receive calls and texts. Does your not?

I think apple have the basics covered!

Strange, last time I checked a smart phone shouldn't just cover the basics, especially one that can cost over €1000.

Oxter

davo2001 wrote: »

Strange, last time I checked a smart phone shouldn't just cover the basics, especially one that can cost over €1000.

I cannot bar calls from 'no caller id' calls
Being able to do this is a basic function,

Even the cheapest Alba android for €15 in Argos has it-

davo2001

Oxter wrote: »

I cannot bar calls from 'no caller id' calls
Being able to do this is a basic function,

Even the cheapest Alba android for €15 in Argos has it-

I'm agreeing with you! :rolleyes:

murpho999

I can reject those callls by pressing the red reject button when they come in. Simple.
Also I don’t get the fear of blocked numbers. What’s the worst that can happen?

Calling iOS 12 a disgrace because of the lack of one feature whilst ignoring the other things it does that android can’t is ridiculous imho.

davo2001

murpho999 wrote: »

Calling iOS 12 a disgrace because of the lack of one feature whilst ignoring the other things it does that android can’t is ridiculous imho.

Such as what exactly? (Genuine question by the way!)

Oxter

murpho999 wrote: »

I can reject those callls by pressing the red reject button when they come in. Simple.
Also I don’t get the fear of blocked numbers. What’s the worst that can happen?

Calling iOS 12 a disgrace because of the lack of one feature whilst ignoring the other things it does that android can’t is ridiculous imho.

Like sex, if you do it yourself its no good.

gctest50

I suppose they can get away with releasing cr@p with all the would-chop-their-bits-off-for-apple-fanboys around





iOS 12.0.1 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone or iPad. This update:
- Fixes an issue where some iPhone XS devices did not immediately charge when connected to a Lightning cable
- Resolves an issue that could cause iPhone XS devices to rejoin a Wi-Fi network at 2.4GHz instead of 5GHz
- Restores the original position of the ".?123" key on the iPad keyboard
- Fixes an issue where subtitles may not appear in some video apps
- Addresses an issue where Bluetooth could become unavailable

3DataModem

Add contact called “unknown” and block it.

NabyLadistheman

So you've used iPhones since the 4 (must be doing something right) and its now at the release of IOS 12 you blow the head gasket? You could have been fairly certain this feature wasn't going to be included. If its that important to you maybe you should have jumped ship when the 5 was released?

DubDJ

This is an amusing thread. Not even 10 posts in and somebody already has brought up the fanboy argument. iOS 12 is one of the best releases Apple have released recently. The title of the thread doesn't really relate to the actual problem you have either. Apple doesn't let you auto-block unknown callers. Fair enough feature to request, but I'd argue it doesn't mean iOS 12 is terrible in any way, shape or form.

murpho999

davo2001 wrote: »

Such as what exactly? (Genuine question by the way!)

I'm not getting into an Android v iOS slanging match as it's been done to death and you can look it up yourself.

I will say that people ignore how iOS does things and that is often ignored by android enthusiasts/Apple haters.

For example, the new bokeh function. Samsung owners say they have had that for years but what they have is just a general blurring of the image and nothing as complex as Apple's attempt of calculating the depth of the distances between background and foreground and more accurate blurring.

People also slagged Faceid and but ignore how accurate and fast it is and cannot be fooled by photos like previous android attempts

gctest50

murpho999 wrote: »

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People also slagged Faceid and but ignore how accurate and fast it is and cannot be fooled by photos like previous android attempts

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Franz Von Peppercorn

gctest50 wrote: »

I suppose they can get away with releasing cr@p with all the would-chop-their-bits-off-for-apple-fanboys around





iOS 12.0.1 includes bug fixes and improvements for your iPhone or iPad. This update:
- Fixes an issue where some iPhone XS devices did not immediately charge when connected to a Lightning cable
- Resolves an issue that could cause iPhone XS devices to rejoin a Wi-Fi network at 2.4GHz instead of 5GHz
- Restores the original position of the ".?123" key on the iPad keyboard
- Fixes an issue where subtitles may not appear in some video apps
- Addresses an issue where Bluetooth could become unavailable

That’s the nature of quick releasing software. The 3 year old android version the average android guy has has hundreds of bugs fixed but he can’t get them.

I tend to update to the N.1 version myself though.

Franz Von Peppercorn

gctest50 wrote: »

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You realise that out of tens to hundreds of millions of devices and billions of attempts one false positive is a pretty good result.

murpho999

gctest50 wrote: »

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Bloody hell what does that prove? Do things only go wrong with iPhones?

j8wk2feszrnpao

murpho999 wrote: »

Bloody hell what does that prove? Do things only go wrong with iPhones?

You said it cannot be fooled by photos, but it clearly can be fooled.
FaceID is really good. But you are paying extra for it to be that good; so it should be.

Johnmb

munstermagic11 wrote: »

You said it cannot be fooled by photos, but it clearly can be fooled.

Ehm, you realise that's an actual, real live boy, not a photo?

j8wk2feszrnpao

Johnmb wrote: »

Ehm, you realise that's an actual, real live boy, not a photo?

Ehm, yes. You do realize I didn’t say it was a photo (and just it can be fooled)?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Is it ever possible to have one of these threads without fanboys arguing either way over which multi billion dollar company makes better phones.

Meh, I’m not that happy with iOS 12 either. I haven’t been happy the last few releases really. I was thinking of going back to a mid range android so I can do basic things like actually turning off WiFi and Bluetooth and for a better battery life.

eeloe

What the hell are you all doing with your phones to need to turn off WiFi and Bluetooth to save minutes of battery life?

Johnmb

munstermagic11 wrote: »

Ehm, yes. You do realize I didn’t say it was a photo (and just it can be fooled)?

You said it cannot be fooled by photos, but it clearly can be fooled

That's what you said. Clearly implying that it can be fooled by photos. Then you presented a video that claims her son (who is the spitting image of her) can also open the phone. Apple said from the beginning that this could happen. Other facial recognition systems have been shown to be fooled by photos, as well as vague lookalikes. And not particularly good or professional photos, they've been fooled by photos taken on the sly from across a table with a standard phone camera. FaceID has never been shown to be fooled by anything like that.

gctest50

Johnmb wrote: »

Ehm, you realise that's an actual, real live boy, not a photo?

You'd want to be using a photo then ? why didn't you say so

Bit of sticky tape and a cornflakes box :

murpho999

munstermagic11 wrote: »

You said it cannot be fooled by photos, but it clearly can be fooled.
FaceID is really good. But you are paying extra for it to be that good; so it should be.

I said it cannot be fooled by a photo and it was not fooled by a photo and the video has nothing to do with it being fooled by photos which android versions can which is a really large weakness and much bigger than being fooled on a rare occasion by two family members allegedly (as I don't trust that video).

I never said that it cannot be fooled.

murpho999

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Is it ever possible to have one of these threads without fanboys arguing either way over which multi billion dollar company makes better phones.

Meh, I’m not that happy with iOS 12 either. I haven’t been happy the last few releases really. I was thinking of going back to a mid range android so I can do basic things like actually turning off WiFi and Bluetooth and for a better battery life.

Seriously turning off wifi and bluetooth saves almost nothing and it can be turned off in iOS.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Johnmb wrote: »

That's what you said. Clearly implying that it can be fooled by photos.

No, you clearly don't get it.
I just said it could be fooled, nothing else.

Johnmb wrote: »

Then you presented a video ...

No I didn't. Try again.

j8wk2feszrnpao

It's fine that it's fooled on the very odd occasion. It's a quality piece of hardware. It should be at that price point.

davo2001

murpho999 wrote: »

I'm not getting into an Android v iOS slanging match as it's been done to death and you can look it up yourself.

Not a slanging match, a genuine curiosity, what features does iOS currently have that Android does not?

Used to have a few iPhones until the 6, switched to Android and will be needing a new phone again soon, so if iOS has something that Android doesn't then I'd be interested.

heroics

I’ve been an iPhone user since iPhone 4 and have an iPhone 8 with iOS 12 on it at the moment. Recently got a galaxy j5 as a work phone and have been using both every day. TBH it’s hard to choose between the 2. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

iOS 12 does seem to have improved the performance of the phone though. Apps just see to open quicker.

Johnmb

munstermagic11 wrote: »

No, you clearly don't get it.
I just said it could be fooled, nothing else.

So someone hacked in to your account and edited your post to add the "You said it cannot be fooled by photos," clause to the sentence?

No I didn't. Try again.

Sorry, you didn't present the video, you made the quote in response to a reply referencing the video.

Johnmb

gctest50 wrote: »

You'd want to be using a photo then ? why didn't you say so

Bit of sticky tape and a cornflakes box :

A 3D mask incorporating a bit of a photo. Not quite the same thing as just a photo. Definitely not on the same level as

gctest50

murpho999 wrote: »

I'm not getting into an Android v iOS slanging match as it's been done to death and you can look it up yourself.

I will say that people ignore how iOS does things and that is often ignored by android enthusiasts/Apple haters.

For example, the new bokeh function. .......

It's a basic thing : automatically reject calls from those not in your contacts list ( on demand )

without pressing the RED reject button

murpho999 wrote: »

I can reject those callls by pressing the red reject button when they come in. Simple.

meanwhile pixels will transcribe calls on demand :

not sure about teh bokeh though


The Iphonexs makes the Iphonex look like a doorstop though, speedy processor

flexcon

I agree with the poster that blocking unknown calls would be a very desirable offer from Apple.

Why it is not offered, I am not sure. i am not a coder but I would have thought that it is certainly doable and not one of those "difficult tasks".

I am not a fanboy but I also do genuinely love nearly everything about the iOS experience. I like consistency and I like **** to work most of the time.

Regarding the poster showing the updates of iOS. At least Apple pushes updates.... look at the state of Androids updates. Having to wait for network approvals and segments designed for your phone. I am not justifying Apples choice of sending out software that is buggy, but least we are confident most times it gets solved. That antidotally just does not seem to happen to the Android experience.

I said it before and ill say it again. Give me a ONE plus 6t and iOS 12 for €600. Boom. I'm there, and so would lot's of others I'd imagine.

TBi

eeloe wrote: »

What the hell are you all doing with your phones to need to turn off WiFi and Bluetooth to save minutes of battery life?

WiFi and Bluetooth (and GPS) seem to drain the battery much faster on android devices so they ‘have’ to turn it off. iOS handles the battery drain better so iPhone users don’t have to worry about it so much.

Then again a lot of android users I know often boast about how much battery life they can get when they turn everything off. I don’t get the point. Why not just buy an old candy bar phone instead.

whippet

I don't understand what battery issues people are having .. I am business user and on the phone most of the day as I don't work in the office - it's a 7+ and I have it full charged in the morning and usually about 5pm it is teetering on 20% so I just stick it on charge when beside the laptop or in the car .. no big deal

TBi

whippet wrote: »

I don't understand what battery issues people are having .. I am business user and on the phone most of the day as I don't work in the office - it's a 7+ and I have it full charged in the morning and usually about 5pm it is teetering on 20% so I just stick it on charge when beside the laptop or in the car .. no big deal

I like my phone to last all day if possible. My battery is shot so it's dying out around the same time as you but when new it easily lasted until i needed to plug it in at night. The iPhone 6s was the first phone i had which I had to recharge before bedtime on a regular basis.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Johnmb wrote: »

So someone hacked in to your account and edited your post to add the "You said it cannot be fooled by photos," clause to the sentence?

Are you really unable to read?
One person said it cannot be fooled by photos, I said it can be fooled (in response to the video).
Stop reading something that wasn't written.

Johnmb wrote: »

Sorry, you didn't present the video, you made the quote in response to a reply referencing the video.

Yes, you were wrong. In was in reply to the video.