Brexit border issue solved!

Fighting Tao

Blowfish wrote: »

Do you realistically think that it would be possible for the UK & EU to fully develop, test and implement a blockchain solution that covers all entrypoints in NI and all entrypoints in the EU given the timeperiod available?

That's ignoring the obvious that Blockchain is fine and all for a record of trades, but how does it do anything at all to solve smuggling? Stuff would still need to be checked while crossing the borders, hence infrastructure would be required so it doesn't solve anything.

I have no idea of what he proposed except using blockchain. The article lacked any detail (unless my content blocker hid from me.)

By March 2019, I would say that no IT solution is possible.

ohnonotgmail

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I have no idea of what he proposed except using blockchain. The article lacked any detail (unless my content blocker hid from me.)

By March 2019, I would say that no IT solution is possible.

I think i would be on very solid ground to say that Hammond has no idea of what he proposed except that it somehow involved something called blockchain.

Blowfish

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I have no idea of what he proposed except using blockchain. The article lacked any detail (unless my content blocker hid from me.)

By March 2019, I would say that no IT solution is possible.

And that's the crux of it.

Can Blockchain theoretically make some customs stuff more efficient? Sure.

Can it solve any of the new problems that Brexit has introduced in order to facilitate a frictionless border? I don't see how.

Fighting Tao

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I think i would be on very solid ground to say that Hammond has no idea of what he proposed except that it somehow involved something called blockchain.

Agree. No one appears to have any idea of what the border will look like even before proposing an IT solution.

Fighting Tao

Blowfish wrote: »

And that's the crux of it.

Can Blockchain theoretically make some customs stuff more efficient? Sure.

Can it solve any of the new problems that Brexit has introduced in order to facilitate a frictionless border? I don't see how.

I completely agree. My responses were to to anti-blockchain brigade that don’t think blockchain has anything good at all to offer the world.

Donald Trump

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Blockchain is just a ledger that records sequential transactions.

It is inflexible and blockchain includes kiddie porn and all other types of horrors that cannot be extracted.

In its ten years of existence the only application that has been found for it is a pyramid scheme.

People who spout this ****e are the same idiots buying some of that pyramid scheme.

It will go to ****e. Just like Brexit.

Not quite true. (Not arguing the pyramid-ness of Bitcoin). But it does have potential to cut out a lot of middle-men in recording and verifying all kinds of ownership and transactions. And also transform problems in societies where the lack of those middlemen cause issues.

Agricola

"Guys, the Irish border can be easily resolved with a technology I once saw on an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation. We just need the will and vision to make it happen and under.........er........Boris Johnson.........I believe we can realize that vision"

Woke Hogan

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I completely agree. My responses were to to anti-blockchain brigade that don’t think blockchain has anything good at all to offer the world.

It's great for hiring hitmen and distributing child pornography, I hear.

Fighting Tao

Woke Hogan wrote: »

It's great for hiring hitmen and distributing child pornography, I hear.

That’s nothing new. That has been available using other technology for a long time. Child porn is since the use of camera became affordable. How many decades is that now! Hitmen is even before that they’ve been plying their trade for millennia.

Maybe we should ban all technology because of a few bad eggs using it.

Hurrache

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Recall only works properly when the consumer finds out about it.

Not true at all. Not sure if you're basing your knowledge on the US, specifically Walmart alone, but it seems they're playing catch up. US standards and processes are far behind the EUs and Irelands.

There's many, many recalls through the Irish and EU food chain that the consumer will never be aware of. It's such an integrated process that second thought is not given to it. The recalls the consumer becomes aware of usually stem for example a fault in a machine in a factory, such as a broken part getting into the product, that is only discovered after the product is put on the shelf. Even in the cases of bacterial contamination, block chain, or any process, can't do anything about that until it's discovered.

Fighting Tao

Hurrache wrote: »

Not true at all. Not sure if you're basing your knowledge on the US, specifically Walmart alone, but it seems they're playing catch up. US standards and processes are far behind the EUs and Irelands.

There's many, many recalls through the Irish and EU food chain that the consumer will never be aware of. It's such an integrated process that second thought is not given to it. The recalls the consumer becomes aware of usually stem for example a fault in a machine in a factory, such as a broken part getting into the product, that is only discovered after the product is put on the shelf. Even in the cases of bacterial contamination, block chain, or any process, can't do anything about that until it's discovered.

Obviously unless it’s discovered it can’t be recalled. However, once discovered everyone can be notified at the same time the whole way down the line to the consumer. This could be done via a couple of methods. For example if the person has a club/loyalty card once the farm/factory is flagged they could be notified via email/text etc. Or if they don’t then they could scan a barcode or chip when going to use the item and it could notify them them.

I returned soy sauce about 6-8 weeks ago due to a recall. It was only by chance I saw that it was recalled because I had bought it in a shop I don’t usually buy from. The current process is majorily flawed and can blockchain can take the sting out of reinventing it.

Odhinn

Malcolm Large Bag wrote: »

Blockchain May Resolve Irish Border Brexit Problem: Hammond





Personally I think the knuckle dragger made a mistake by not throwing in enough buzzwords. He should have used "Machine Learning" and "AI" in his statement too.


This would have given him the credibility to propose this as a real solution.


:pac:

Also "drill down", "synergy/synergies" "going forward"

wexie

Odhinn wrote: »

Also "drill down", "synergy/synergies" "going forward"

Some real bluesky thinking done here