Non-trans men in drag

s7ryf3925pivug

Men who identify as male and don't normally cross-dress running in drag in women's mini marathon - Is this PC by today's standards.

Personally it strikes me as a bit lame. I think once I reached my teens it stopped seeming daring or funny for a guy to dress up as a woman for comedic purposes. Came up in conversation that it's basically ripping the piss out of trans people as well though. Made me wonder.

Sometimes I find it hard to keep up with what is acceptable and not these days. Tbh I feel like I don't really get the whole trans thing. I hope I don't end up being a future equivalent of one of those really old people who talk about 'negroes' and stuff like that. Some of it does seem a little reactionary, but maybe there is a point with this one. I guess trans people are the ones who can say whether they're offended or not...

biko

I don't care if it's PC, if they want to do it go ahead.

amcalester

It's not a trans thing, it's a charity thing.

super_furry

I wouldn't worry about it too much. Sure just stick on the kettle and make a nice cup of tea.

Hector Savage

Seems to be a stag party thing too ?
What's that about ?

McMurphy

I met an Englishman who must-have been a transvestite as he said he had a Wigan address.

Peatys

Normally it's too get around the fact that it's a women's mini marathon.

How pc is that?

s7ryf3925pivug

Also the term marathon! Notice how it is MArathoN amd not WOMArathoN! The subtle strikes of the patriarchy

Canis Lupus

Can I run a mini 'marathon' in black face for charity?

Pyr0

Who cares? It's for charity! I couldn't give a flying f*ck what the lads dress up as.

joe stodge

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Can I run a mini 'marathon' in black face for charity?

I'm sure you could, but you'll be slated for it.

JustJoe7240

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Can I run a mini 'marathon' in black face for charity?

I don't see how that's comparable? Unless it's a mini marathon where you have to be black to participate?

Canis Lupus

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

I don't see how that's comparable? Unless it's a mini marathon where you have to be black to participate?

I've no idea. I was just asking......for a friend......

Samuel T. Cogley

If dressing up as a woman means I can run a marathon I'm all for it. Frankly walking from here to the DART station is becoming a bit of a challenge these days.

wexie

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

If dressing up as a woman means I can run a marathon I'm all for it. Frankly walking from here to the DART station is becoming a bit of a challenge these days.

Between the heels keeping you stumbling forward in order not to faceplant and the dress allowing the breeze where the breeze don't normally go it'd be a good way to get a good walk in

Badly Drunk Boy

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Can I run a mini 'marathon' in black face for charity?

Why not?!? Actually, go the whole hog and do it as a black woman!

KungPao

They most likely like to take it up the chuffer. They ain’t fooling me with ‘it’s just a bit of a laugh’ zaniness.

ArrBee

A persons right to be offended should be equal to ones right to offend. :P

TheValeyard

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Can I run a mini 'marathon' in black face for charity?

Hope you're a fast runner

ArrBee

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Why not?!? Actually, go the whole hog and do it as a black woman!

... in a wheelchair

Feisar

Michaela Attractive Coconut wrote: »

Men who identify as male and don't normally cross-dress running in drag in women's mini marathon - Is this PC by today's standards.

Personally it strikes me as a bit lame. I think once I reached my teens it stopped seeming daring or funny for a guy to dress up as a woman for comedic purposes. Came up in conversation that it's basically ripping the piss out of trans people as well though. Made me wonder.

Sometimes I find it hard to keep up with what is acceptable and not these days. Tbh I feel like I don't really get the whole trans thing. I hope I don't end up being a future equivalent of one of those really old people who talk about 'negroes' and stuff like that. Some of it does seem a little reactionary, but maybe there is a point with this one. I guess trans people are the ones who can say whether they're offended or not...

So... basically you don't like Mrs. Brown's Boys

ohnonotgmail

Feisar wrote: »

So... basically you don't like Mrs. Brown's Boys

Who does???

Your Face

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Who does???

9 million people.

How many admit to watching is another issue

TheValeyard

ArrBee wrote: »

... in a wheelchair

Wearing a Star of David

Gravelly

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Wearing a Star of David

and a pussy hat.

wexie

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Why not?!? Actually, go the whole hog and do it as a black woman!

ArrBee wrote: »

... in a wheelchair

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Wearing a Star of David

Gravelly wrote: »

and a pussy hat.

.....You'd probably get decent sponsorship money for that

Samuel T. Cogley

Confused about the terminology here, surely, we don't have to call him Shirley, a trans man in drag is a woman who is now a man, in drag. A man who has 'trans'd' to a woman is surely not in drag? So confused.

James Brown

I always thought the lads who like to dress up as women, 'for a laugh' might be fooling themselves. No harm mind.

JohnMc1

biko wrote: »

I don't care if it's PC, if they want to do it go ahead.

I don't either. Most of those idiots will always find something else to be offended about.

BattleCorp

Michaela Attractive Coconut wrote: »

Men who identify as male and don't normally cross-dress running in drag in women's mini marathon - Is this PC by today's standards.

Personally it strikes me as a bit lame. I think once I reached my teens it stopped seeming daring or funny for a guy to dress up as a woman for comedic purposes. Came up in conversation that it's basically ripping the piss out of trans people as well though. Made me wonder.

Sometimes I find it hard to keep up with what is acceptable and not these days. Tbh I feel like I don't really get the whole trans thing. I hope I don't end up being a future equivalent of one of those really old people who talk about 'negroes' and stuff like that. Some of it does seem a little reactionary, but maybe there is a point with this one. I guess trans people are the ones who can say whether they're offended or not...

I did it one year. Dressed up as a woman and ran/walked/danced the mini marathon. Was bollixed afterward. Did it for charity. Raised a good few quid too. I don't see anything wrong with it.

To be honest, I'm old enough (mid 40's) not to give a sh1te about the PC stuff that you seem to be worried about. I am not worried or give a damn about whether a Trans person is offended by me dressing up as a woman and doing a run for charity. I'm doing it for a good cause, not to upset Trans people.

Jimmy.

Leave the women’s underwear for the women.

AndrewJRenko

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'm doing it for a good cause, not to upset Trans people.

And presumably, once I do something for a good cause, there's nothing that could upset you? I could do something 'funny' about a cause precious to your heart, maybe the cause that you raised money for. I could humiliate and undermine the people that you raised money for, but once I do it 'for a good cause', that's OK with you, yeah?

Paddy Cow

The PC answer should be it's nothing to do with Trans. Women have been dressing up in men's clothes for years and seeing as how we're now all equal, if men want to wear women's clothes it's a non-issue.

AndrewJRenko

Paddy Cow wrote: »

The PC answer should be it's nothing to do with Trans. Women have been dressing up in men's clothes for years and seeing as how we're now all equal, if men want to wear women's clothes it's a non-issue.

People have been dressing up in ISIS uniforms for years now. SO if I want to dress up as ISIS with a suicide belt and all, and march up and down outside the synagogue at the time that service is starting, it's a non-issue, right?

Roger Hassenforder

Jimmy. wrote: »

Leave the women’s underwear for the women.

I dont think its any harm for a man to get into womens knickers.

Consenting of course.

Paddy Cow

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

People have been dressing up in ISIS uniforms for years now. SO if I want to dress up as ISIS with a suicide belt and all, and march up and down outside the synagogue at the time that service is starting, it's a non-issue, right?

Why don't you go do that so?

mazwell

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

I met an Englishman who must-have been a transvestite as he said he had a Wigan address.

I met an English man who left the door open in the pub one day. I asked him if he was born in a field he said yes Sheffield.

Havnt read the rest of the thread but I'm pretty sure the op is just looking for stuff to be annoyed about

fryup

Eddie Izzard ?

dxhound2005

fryup wrote: »

Eddie Izzard ?

Is he?

fryup

gay ?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Michaela Attractive Coconut wrote: »

Men who identify as male and don't normally cross-dress running in drag in women's mini marathon - Is this PC by today's standards.

Personally it strikes me as a bit lame. I think once I reached my teens it stopped seeming daring or funny for a guy to dress up as a woman for comedic purposes. Came up in conversation that it's basically ripping the piss out of trans people as well though. Made me wonder.

Sometimes I find it hard to keep up with what is acceptable and not these days. Tbh I feel like I don't really get the whole trans thing. I hope I don't end up being a future equivalent of one of those really old people who talk about 'negroes' and stuff like that. Some of it does seem a little reactionary, but maybe there is a point with this one. I guess trans people are the ones who can say whether they're offended or not...

Just as well you;re not in charge, then, isn't it?

In answer to your question: what a person does without hurting anyone else is acceptable. Especially if done in the privacy of their own home. Get over it.

Nodferatu

It's what you call a hipster

Sunny Disposition

It’s a disgrace! Women everywhere should be ashamed. Will Louise O’Neill or Roe McDermott or Una Mullally condemn the organizers though??? Free the people!

prinzeugen

mazwell wrote: »

I met an English man who left the door open in the pub one day. I asked him if he was born in a field he said yes Sheffield.

Havnt read the rest of the thread but I'm pretty sure the op is just looking for stuff to be annoyed about

Bit like an ex Irish army guy in the local that claimed he had done special ops during the Vietnam war.

The only action he got in nam was in Rathfarnham as thats were he lived. (He never pronounced the "h" in Rathfarnham)

This guy wore makeup as well.. Denied it but it was obvious.

BattleCorp

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

And presumably, once I do something for a good cause, there's nothing that could upset you? I could do something 'funny' about a cause precious to your heart, maybe the cause that you raised money for. I could humiliate and undermine the people that you raised money for, but once I do it 'for a good cause', that's OK with you, yeah?

I think if a Trans person gets upset at the thoughts of a man dressed as a woman running in the Women's Mini Marathon to raise money for a charity that looks after women who get breast cancer, then they need to take a look at themselves.

How could that be humiliating or undermining for a Trans person. Seriously.

I'm not having a dig at trans people by the way.

WoollyRedHat

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

I met an Englishman who must-have been a transvestite as he said he had a Wigan address.

sbsquarepants

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Can I run a mini 'marathon' in black face for charity?

I'll do it in KKK dress behind you for maximum lols:D

ArrBee

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

what a person does without hurting anyone else is acceptable. Especially if done in the privacy of their own home. Get over it.

But that's just the problem, isn't it?


We are faced with an ever increasing number of people who claim to be "hurt" by things that previously would never have raised an eyebrow.

The numerous threads with the same theme are an indication, to me at least, that people are concerned at where this shift towards being easily offended (some might say "professionally offended" in some cases) is leading us as a society.

Paddy Cow

ArrBee wrote: »

But that's just the problem, isn't it?


We are faced with an ever increasing number of people who claim to be "hurt" by things that previously would never have raised an eyebrow.

The numerous threads with the same theme are an indication, to me at least, that people are concerned at where this shift towards being easily offended (some might say "professionally offended" in some cases) is leading us as a society.

This thread is an example of creating offence when there is none to begin with. The title is probably the most offensive thing about it. It insinuates that only trans people are drag queens, which is not the case. A drag queen is a man who dresses up as a woman. That man could be straight, gay or trans.

BattleCorp

branie2

Michaela Attractive Coconut wrote: »

Also the term marathon! Notice how it is MArathoN amd not WOMArathoN! The subtle strikes of the patriarchy

It's named after the historic Greek battle of Marathon