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Birds of Prey

  • 24-09-2018 11:13pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 75,439 ✭✭✭✭ JP Liz V1


    Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn film Birds of Prey gets February 2020 release date, Cathy Yan is directing with Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Jurnee Smolett-Bell, Margaret Qualley and Cristin Milioti rumoured for roles

    Source Variety


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,878 ✭✭✭ conorhal


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn film Birds of Prey gets February 2020 release date, Cathy Yan is directing with Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Jurnee Smolett-Bell, Margaret Qualley and Cristin Milioti rumoured for roles

    Source Variety


    Another odd DC decision. Why is Harley Quinn in a Birds of Prey film? Why is a villan part of a superhero team instead of the super-villan group of female DC baddies, 'Gotham City Sirens'? Which was proposed as one of the list of Harley Quinn projects.
    Nothing DC does seems to make a whole lot of sense, this is a)the wrong project and b) yet another 'cart before the horse' scenario that pitches a team up movie involving characters that have never even appeared in a standalone movie. It seems that yet again we're going to get the 'sling mud at a wall and see what sticks' approach to cinematic universe building rather then laying down the groundwork.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Surprised Robbie is interested in returning to the role and isn't pulling a Jennifer Lawrence, trying to wriggle out of any commitments now that she's famous and lauded.

    As for the DC strategy, given they apparently green-lit a Blackhack Squadron film, while The Flash lies in the doldrums, who knows what they're doing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,373 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson


    Mary Elizabeth Winstead cast as Huntress.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Jurnee Smolett-Bell also cast as Black Canary.

    Winstead's a funny one: someone elsewhere remarked, and I'm inclined to agree, that she's one of those actors not as famous as she should be. She's talented and versatile (turned in a great performance for Fargo Season 3), yet never quite landed that breakout role to push her into the A-listing. Maybe it's not something she actively pursued, who knows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,373 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson


    I'd say she is more famous for being the woman Ewan McGregor left his wife for to the majority of the general public than a talented actress.


    And speaking of McGregor he is being linked to play the Villain in this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,484 ✭✭✭✭ CastorTroy


    Being literal in their casting. After seeing the likes of Black Lightning and Black Panther, they think that's why she's called Black Canary?
    And working it out, she is now the 7th to play a live action Black Canary.
    Looking at her previous stuff, only thing I remember her from is Friday Night Lights

    Don't know about Winstead as Huntress.

    Now the 2 questions are since 2 of the rumoured names turned out to be true, who will the others play?
    And will Batgirl be in it? Qualley in that role? I don't think so if they're going to have her be friends with the other 2 who are about 10 years older the Qualley. But casting a younger actress makes sense considering how long it takes them to make these movies and they plan on a Batgirl movie at some point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭ EoinMcLovin


    I'd say she is more famous for being the woman Ewan McGregor left his wife for to the majority of the general public than a talented actress.


    And speaking of McGregor he is being linked to play the Villain in this.

    McGregor confirmed to be playing Black Mask
    https://variety.com/2018/film/news/ewan-mcgregor-black-mask-birds-of-prey-1203017487/


  • Registered Users Posts: 75,439 ✭✭✭✭ JP Liz V1


    Chris Messina will play Victor Zsasz


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭ EoinMcLovin




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Look like screen-tests to me.

    Really don't like the DCEU Harley though, don't dig the trashy look at all.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Filming on this has wrapped, so I guess a trailer mightn't be too far in the future...


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭✭ justinbellford


    The only thing that has me vaguely interested is a cinematic depiction of Black Mask. I fully expect this to be another Suicide Squad scenario.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,373 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    So all those shots of Black Mask have him looking curiously unmasked. Classic case of a face too famous to hide. Unless they're pulling the Origin Story tactic and we'll get one shot, at the very end, of Roman Sionis wearing his mask. And still yet to warm to Robbie's "Bratz" esque Harley


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,373 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,351 ✭✭✭ brianregan09


    Looks awful


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Looks like Poochie levels of forced "cool" TBH, and really not digging the Black Mask without said black mask. It'll take some stellar reviews, or boredom, to get me to the cinema on the back of that trailer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭ Varik


    She sounds different, accent she's putting on isn't the same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭ jaxxx


    *yawns

    Skip!


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,484 ✭✭✭✭ CastorTroy


    Oooookay. If that was meant to get people interested, it failed. I couldn't even tell who the others are meant to be.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭ jaxxx


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Oooookay. If that was meant to get people interested, it failed. I couldn't even tell who the others are meant to be.


    Before seeing trailer: "Wow Black Canary's in this?? Awesome!"


    After seeing trailer: "Umm, where's Black Canary?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,330 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright


    Looks awful ,
    Its amazing how poor all the DC movies are ,even when they have good casting they just make awful movies ,


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭ c.p.w.g.w


    Saw the trailer tonight on the big screen...looks dreadful, hopefully it bombs.

    The studios might need to look at comic book genre movies with female leads.
    Captain Marvel was absolute garbage.
    Catwoman absolutely dreadful.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 10,604 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Fysh


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Saw the trailer tonight on the big screen...looks dreadful, hopefully it bombs.

    The studios might need to look at comic book genre movies with female leads.
    Captain Marvel was absolute garbage.
    Catwoman absolutely dreadful.

    Catwoman? As in, Catwoman from 15 years ago? Not really relevant to the current state of superhero films, tbh, so not sure why you'd bring it up. Perhaps you meant Wonder Woman on the DCEU side? But, oops, made $800M and has favourable audience and critical reviews. Never mind...

    Captain Marvel seems to have made some MCU fans extremely salty, but to say the film was absolute garbage is to ignore that it is, basically, a generic MCU movie that has a female lead (and a 90s setting because nostalgia mining is a thing, but the 90s thing clearly isn't what's chapping people's arses...). It's unexceptional rather than bad, and oddly all the reviews claiming it's awful also go off on rants about feminism being the devil and other dustbin-of-history nonsense. Weirdly, film critics have been middling rather than devastating in their reviews of it, which wouldn't be the case if it were a Bayformers-esque car crash of a film. And it made over a billion dollars worldwide, so clearly it was a hit with at least some audiences.

    (Making over a billion dollars doesn't preclude being a bad film - see Bayformers - but then it's a bit weird that the only MCU film to clear a billion dollars yet get the hate is also the only one with a single female lead... Unless it's the internet asshat brigade at play, of course).

    Anyway.

    This trailer, specifically, does look pretty rubbish, and feels a lot like someone who was developing a BoP film was told to incorporate Robbie's Harley Quinn as one of the few bright spots of the DCEU, which is a shame as it suggests that WB are still meddling rather than taking a more hands-off approach. Hopefully this won't have a knock on effect on James Gunn's work on Suicide Squad 2, as he's the best hope that film has of turning into something good...


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Gender has nothing to do with how bad this trailer looks FFS. Aside from anything else, it's a bad trailer cos it doesn't actually say what the film is ABOUT. It's clearly slanted towards Margot Robbies trashy interpretation of Harley, at the expense of anything else in the promotion. And while not as brazen as Suicide Squad, that same superficial corporate-punk styling is as fake as Robbie's Bahhhstan accent.

    Something tells me this is going to get butchered in the editing room/reshoots. Quick, more Margot Robbie! More. Morrrre. I've given up on the DC films as creative endeavours because it's clear the studio have a heavy touch, and can't let things grow. If the same people who have the editing of Suicide Squad to marketing company are still in charge, they've clearly learnt nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭ Xaniaj


    Why are they even pretending this is a BoP movie??


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Xaniaj wrote: »
    Why are they even pretending this is a BoP movie??

    Because the original script probably started as that, maybe with Harley as a side character, and the studio likely demanded a rewrite to push her into the forefront as Robbie's star power grew. Same as with Jennifer Lawrence and those X-Men movies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,694 ✭✭✭ Slydice


    Woops.. they accidareleased the final trailer and started rapidly pulling it back down...

    but people started posting it so looks like they're releasing it:
    https://twitter.com/birdsofpreywb/status/1215305227668197378


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,694 ✭✭✭ Slydice


    On youtube now:


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    A better trailer IMO, though probably because of a better look at Black Mask, in his mask (though IIRC isn't he meant to be in it all the time in the comics? Can't immediately recall if Roman Sionis ever actually walked around normally).


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