Groves v Smith

FTA69

What do ye think about this? I think Groves is going to smash him out of it to be honest, has Smith fought anyone of note of the calibre that Groves has? I honestly think Groves is a level above him here, the odds are quite good for a Groves KO and I’m going to have a put off that I think. As far as I’m concerned Smith has never been tested and is in over his head.

walshb

This is Smith’s test, not Groves’. Smith has fought nobody...

Groves is far from unbeatable. In fact, as many know, I don’t think he is the same fighter from a few years ago...

Smith can show us that he has quality if he can win...Groves winning won’t show us anything other than Smith was never great...

It’s a fight that I expect Groves to win, but the fact that Smith is still an unknown makes it interesting. Smith can punch. Groves can punch. Both can box. May come down to fitness and who takes the other’s shots the best...

walshb

Costs about 21 euro on ITV BO...

Rip off. But I’ll pay it...

Ring walks circa 22:00 hrs Irish time on Friday night..

normanoffside

Unless Smiths chin is made of Granite Groves will stop him with a big right hand. Smith is wide open to it. Have the stoppage backed at 4/1 since after the semi finals.

FTA69

walshb wrote: »

Costs about 21 euro on ITV BO...

Rip off. But I’ll pay it...

Ring walks circa 22:00 hrs Irish time on Friday night..

I'm training Friday night but will probably buy it. Load of sh*t really, anyone on the undercard?

normanoffside

FTA69 wrote: »

I'm training Friday night but will probably buy it. Load of sh*t really, anyone on the undercard?

Eubank vs JJ McDonagh

FTA69

Ah here that's taking the p*ss.

Joeseph Balls

normanoffside wrote: »

Eubank vs JJ McDonagh

Used to train with JJ.
Paddy seemed more likely of the two to be suited to the pro game. Seemed to have went quiet

FTA69

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

Used to train with JJ.
Paddy seemed more likely of the two to be suited to the pro game. Seemed to have went quiet

How’d you think he’ll do against Eubank?

Sprinter Sacre

I'm a little puzzled by how close the betting is for this. Is Groves injury that significant?

FTA69

Sprinter Sacre wrote: »

I'm a little puzzled by how close the betting is for this. Is Groves injury that significant?

Groves for some reason always gets written off in the betting stakes, I've had great money off him over the years - against De Gale and Eubanks especially. He was 6/4 to beat Eubank with 5/1 on decision like, easiest money ever made in boxing. I mean Smith isn't a mug, but the resumes of the two fighters are miles apart.

Is it a dead cert? No. But is this an even match up? I don't believe so, he's worth a punt deffo.

normanoffside

Sprinter Sacre wrote: »

I'm a little puzzled by how close the betting is for this. Is Groves injury that significant?

Smith actually started as a slight favourite when the betting opened the night of Smith-Holzken semi final. That’s when I got my money on Groves.
Don’t think it has to do with the injury as Groves has been backed in since.

Joeseph Balls

FTA69 wrote: »

How’d you think he’ll do against Eubank?

It's 10 years since I trained with him. I can't comment as if only seen two of his pro fights, one years ago when he was ko'd and one more recent where he ko'd his opponent .
Followed paddy at the start, but that's a few years ago too

FTA69

I think it’s safe to say he’ll get steamed. I don’t think the bookies are even giving odds.

gwalk

McDonagh has been brought in to lose basically,

Eubank is only on the card incase Smith or Groves don't make weight, he steps in

I've not been impressed with Callum's last few fights, and who knows what way Groves' injury will hold up.

Smith won the English, British & European titles by first round KO, gonna stick a euro on first round KO @ 60/1 with PP for the craic

akelly02

how does one purchase this if on sky?

Johner

I think Smith will be competitive and it will be quite close. Smith has quite a size and reach advantage. Interesting to see how Groves deals with that. I don't see how Groves smashes and stops him though, but I'd say he wins a close decision.

Morrison J

Smith looks absolutely dead at the weight.

akelly02

very little talk about this, surprising. im looking forward to it

Johner

akelly02 wrote: »

very little talk about this, surprising. im looking forward to it

Really looking forward to this as well.

Ring walk is around 9pm tonight.

megadodge

What just happened in the JJ McDonagh fight?

DVD-Lots

:rolleyes: Right Shoulder injury.....

FTA69

Right here we go, got Groves KO at 3/1. I was probably a bit hasty in saying Groves would smash him but ''tis still a value bet.

I think this could be a good old scrap once George's shoulder holds up.

FTA69

DVD-Lots wrote: »

:rolleyes: Right Shoulder injury.....

Missed that as I was down the gym meself. Buddy said he was getting belted and out of his depth is that the case?

Sweet.Science

A message doing the rounds today that it would be over within 4 . A scam

megadodge

I'm not convinced Groves shoulder is fully healed yet. I think he decided to take the risk in coming back early rather than miss the final. I hope it holds up and we have a straight up fight, no excuses.

Although I've predicted Groves, I rate Smith's chances.

FTA69

Sweet.Science wrote: »

A message doing the rounds today that it would be over within 4 . A scam

Ha no wonder the bookies were hardly taking bets!

megadodge

FTA69 wrote: »

Missed that as I was down the gym meself. Buddy said he was getting belted and out of his depth is that the case?

He looked quite comfortable to me, which is why the pullout came as a surprise.

Johner

That announcer is ****ing annoying.

walshb

Rooting for Smith..

DVD-Lots

FTA69 wrote: »

Missed that as I was down the gym meself. Buddy said he was getting belted and out of his depth is that the case?

Yeah absolutely battered, took a knock to the top of the head in the first and went down like a fat kid on a see-saw. Recovered well but was well out of his depth. The aftermath in ring interview was even better though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_WSt_5Q-7Y

walshb

Smith looks physically superior...bigger..

Horrible opening rd. Surely has to get better.

Johner

Smith looking decent so far.

walshb

Smith’s a sucker for a heavy right hand OTT...Groves should commit more..

FTA69

Walsh bang on, I think if Groves commits he'll do the business

walshb

This is it now...fair play..

Sprinter Sacre

Smith very cautious but might be 2-0 up

normanoffside

walshb wrote: »

Smith’s a sucker for a heavy right hand OTT...Groves should commit more..

His SF opponent couldn’t miss and he was a last minute substitute kick boxer

Johner

This is heating up nicely.

walshb

Groves needs to hold the ring and shoot as Smith comes on...

He’s moving backwards too much

megadodge

Not sure what you lads are looking at, as it's Groves that's getting hit by right hands so far, not Smith.

If Smith lets that right go more often, he could win this inside the distance.

Johner

3-1 Smith.

FTA69

Rounds are hard to score

walshb

Both look very vulnerable. Whoever wants to commit more can get the KO.

normanoffside

Smith well up. Very disciplined

walshb

Smith definitely fighting like the man in charge..looks the boss..

Johner

walshb wrote: »

Smith definitely fighting like the man in charge..looks the boss..

That's how I'm seeing it, I think Groves is struggling with the distance.

megadodge

Smith still should be doing more. He looks in charge, but he has a habit of not throwing enough and he's doing it here again.

Sprinter Sacre

Although Smith is having some joy and Groves looks vulnerable he simply isn't doing enough. 4-1 Groves. Smith could do something serious if he commits a little more.

walshb

Johner wrote: »

That's how I'm seeing it, I think Groves is struggling with the distance.

Groves looks a bit lost...

FTA69

Groves is busy and landing too lads.