Vodafone's new "Gigabox" (Powerstation)

ED E

Info about this is a little scarce so thought it deserved a post:

Model: SHG3000

Date of Last Certification: 2018-01-26
Brand: Vodafone Group PLC
Product: Gigabox
Model Number: SHG3000
Category: Access Point for Home or Small Office (Wireless Router)
Hardware Version: VOX30v1
Firmware Version: XS_3.4.10.00
Operating System: Linux
Frequency Band(s): 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz

CLASSIFICATION
Wi-Fi CERTIFIED™ a
Wi-Fi CERTIFIED™ g
Wi-Fi CERTIFIED™ n
Wi-Fi CERTIFIED™ ac

Model Number: SHG3000 / VOX30 
Modem: ADSL / ADSL2 / VDSL2 / 35b / G.fast / G.inp 
CPU: Broadcom BCM63136, ARM Cortex A9 Dual Core 1GHz
2.4GHz WiFi: Broadcom BCM4360 b / g / n, 3x3, 450Mbit 
WiFi 5GHz: Broadcom BCM4366 ARM Cortex A7 800MHz, a / n / ac, 4x4 MU-MIMO, 1733Mbit 
WIFI ANTENNAS: 7 antennas in total, 3 -> 2.4GHz , 4 -> 5GHz. 
RAM: 512MB DDR3L-1866 
FLASH: 256MB 
ONT: optional on 
USB SFP port: 2 x USB 2.0 
LAN: Gigabit 4 LAN + 1 WAN 

At a glance this appears to be a real offering thats actually up to facilitating 300Mb and Gigabit connections.

ED E

* In Italian *

The downfiring LEDs are a real nice touch.

TheDriver

it has to be better than the current yoke, awful awful thing.

lawred2

ED E wrote: »

Info about this is a little scarce so thought it deserved a post:

Model: SHG3000

Model Number: SHG3000 / VOX30 
Modem: ADSL / ADSL2 / VDSL2 / 35b / G.fast / G.inp 
CPU: Broadcom BCM63136, ARM Cortex A9 Dual Core 1GHz
2.4GHz WiFi: Broadcom BCM4360 b / g / n, 3x3, 450Mbit 
WiFi 5GHz: Broadcom BCM4366 ARM Cortex A7 800MHz, a / n / ac, 4x4 MU-MIMO, 1733Mbit 
WIFI ANTENNAS: 7 antennas in total, 3 -> 2.4GHz , 4 -> 5GHz. 
RAM: 512MB DDR3L-1866 
FLASH: 256MB 
ONT: optional on 
USB SFP port: 2 x USB 2.0 
LAN: Gigabit 4 LAN + 1 WAN 

At a glance this appears to be a real offering thats actually up to facilitating 300Mb and Gigabit connections.

When is this expected?

lawred2

TheDriver wrote: »

it has to be better than the current yoke, awful awful thing.

Just use mine as a modem. Wireless disabled.

Marlow

lawred2 wrote: »

When is this expected?

They are already being supplied by Vodafone.

/M

lawred2

Marlow wrote: »

They are already being supplied by Vodafone.

/M

Since when? I just renewed asked were they upgrading the modem and he said that we had the latest?

Airwire: MartinL

lawred2 wrote: »

Since when? I just renewed asked were they upgrading the modem and he said that we had the latest?

Are you on SIRO ? They supply them with SIRO connections.

/M

lawred2

Airwire: MartinL wrote: »

Are you on SIRO ? They supply them with SIRO connections.

/M

So only for SIRO? So these are only fibre modems?

Marlow

lawred2 wrote: »

So only for SIRO? So these are only fibre modems?

No. They can also be used for ADSL and VDSL as per specification above.

But the question is, if they have bothered testing it on OpenEIRs VDSL platform. They might not want to use it on that. Your best bet is to ask the question in the Vodafone forum here on boards: https://www.boards.ie/ttforum/1270

/M

lawred2

Marlow wrote: »

No. They can also be used for ADSL and VDSL as per specification above.

But the question is, if they have bothered testing it on OpenEIRs VDSL platform. They might not want to use it on that. Your best bet is to ask the question in the Vodafone forum here on boards: https://www.boards.ie/ttforum/1270

/M

I've been told by support that it's only for SIRO

EdgeCase

OpenEir's rolling out 35b 'super-vectoring', so I would assume this would be used with it too.

Marlow

EdgeCase wrote: »

OpenEir's rolling out 35b 'super-vectoring', so I would assume this would be used with it too.

I'd say they want to get rid of stock first .. also, 35b will only benefit customers within 300m from the cab. (ish)

/M

lawred2

Marlow wrote: »

I'd say they want to get rid of stock first .. also, 35b will only benefit customers within 300m from the cab. (ish)

/M

well we get 84Mb so I'd say we're close enough to the cab... At a guess I'd say it's 250m away

Marlow

lawred2 wrote: »

well we get 84Mb so I'd say we're close enough to the cab... At a guess I'd say it's 250m away

Wait until supervectoring becomes available so and see if they offer that at the same pricing.

They will have to provide the Gigabox for that. Doesn't work with the old one.

/M

AppleKidd

lawred2 wrote: »

Just use mine as a modem. Wireless disabled.

Hey, what router are you using?

illingworth22

lawred2 wrote: »

Just use mine as a modem. Wireless disabled.

@lawred2 I have a node0 right in the middle of the house, solid walls and all, and use my own WiFi in the main living room, do you use your WiFi router to route or is it just an access point?
Sorry if it's a bit of a NOOB question but it has taken me months to get my Virgin internet set up to my own Archer router with port forwarding for my automated lights and my CCTV cameras.
I would love to bin Virgin and get SIRO installed.

Also same question as

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^ what router do you have?

ED E

If you have an issue with the CPE provided with as service the apt place to ask would be in that services thread (Siro, Eir FTTH) not in a thread specifically about another router.

notahappycamper

Interesting Ed. The mother in laws 658 died there last week - amber power light. She got a 659 as a replacement yesterday. She didn’t ask for the 659 so I’m wondering if they are not supplying the 658 anymore and just using up stock.

Nforce

I see that there's a dedicated app available for the Gigabox, https://n.vodafone.ie/vodafone-apps.html

lawred2

illingworth22 wrote: »

@lawred2 I have a node0 right in the middle of the house, solid walls and all, and use my own WiFi in the main living room, do you use your WiFi router to route or is it just an access point?
Sorry if it's a bit of a NOOB question but it has taken me months to get my Virgin internet set up to my own Archer router with port forwarding for my automated lights and my CCTV cameras.
I would love to bin Virgin and get SIRO installed.

Also same question as

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^ what router do you have?

HG658c

I just use the Vodafone to do the VDSL stuff with wireless disabled. It's DHCP server is active but has only one client which is our primary router. This has 5G and 2G with gigabit Ethernet. That router connects to a gigabit switch which distributes wired Ethernet throughout the house. House is prewired with cat6. There is another wireless access point upstairs.

The high horse brigade

lawred2 wrote: »

HG658c

I just use the Vodafone to do the VDSL stuff with wireless disabled. It's DHCP server is active but has only one client which is our primary router. This has 5G and 2G with gigabit Ethernet. That router connects to a gigabit switch which distributes wired Ethernet throughout the house. House is prewired with cat6. There is another wireless access point upstairs.

The dreaded double NAT. Fine if you just want to browse but it breaks lots of stuff.

https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT

BobMc

can you ask vodafone to purchase one of these I've an old 658 often gives trouble and wifi is not great due to its location ?

lawred2

The high horse brigade wrote: »

The dreaded double NAT. Fine if you just want to browse but it breaks lots of stuff.

https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT

I have a whole host of smart devices on the second private network... But I use dynamic DNS at the router and I've port forwarding set up for the relevant ports. Never had any issues.

The high horse brigade

lawred2 wrote: »

I have a whole host of smart devices on the second private network... But I use dynamic DNS at the router and I've port forwarding set up for the relevant ports. Never had any issues.

That doesn't mean there aren't issues or that it's an ideal setup. Lots of things get broken, anything that uses upnp for instance console gaming.

lawred2

The high horse brigade wrote: »

That doesn't mean there aren't issues or that it's an ideal setup. Lots of things get broken, anything that uses upnp for instance console gaming.

Ah yeah of course it's not ideal but vodofone's modem is poor. No gigabit ethernet and only 2.4G wireless.

If I was having issues I'd have gone about a different architecture but as I have everything I need working, there's no need for me to do anything else.

The high horse brigade

lawred2 wrote: »

Ah yeah of course it's not ideal but vodofone's modem is poor. No gigabit ethernet and only 2.4G wireless.

If I was having issues I'd have gone about a different architecture but as I have everything I need working, there's no need for me to do anything else.

Bridge the modem and add pppoe details to the router so it gets the public IP on its wan port. I'm bridging an Eir F2000 to a Mikrotik router so I have full control of my firewall

pk10216

I upgraded to Siro in the last two days and the engineer just hooked up to existing router ( not sure model but it's white and can do 5g). Should I have got this new box? Speed is nowhere near what I was advised getting 71 Mbps this evening with a test

ED E

Wouldnt surprise me if VF are saving a few pennies by letting upgraders keep their existing 659 and only giving Gigaboxes to new customers.

pk10216

ED E wrote: »

Wouldnt surprise me if VF are saving a few pennies by letting upgraders keep their existing 659 and only giving Gigaboxes to new customers.

Tried it on wired connection straight to router and can get 250 mbps. Will call Monday and give them cooling off period yada yada and request they give me new Gigabox router. Is it likely it could get closer to advertised speed if using this?

tsue921i8wljb3

pk10216 wrote: »

Tried it on wired connection straight to router and can get 250 mbps. Will call Monday and give them cooling off period yada yada and request they give me new Gigabox router. Is it likely it could get closer to advertised speed if using this?

Are you on a 1Gb package?

pk10216

Cole Scrawny Physics wrote: »

Are you on a 1Gb package?

Yeah on 1gb package

tsue921i8wljb3

pk10216 wrote: »

Yeah on 1gb package

Did the installer test the connection? If so what was the result?

Is the device you're getting 250Mb on actually capable of higher speeds? You might replace the router only to find you're getting similar speeds.

To test for gigabit capability you need two devices with gigabit cards and use something like LAN speed test or iPerf over the LAN.

https://totusoft.com/lanspeed

https://iperf.fr

The high horse brigade

pk10216 wrote: »

Tried it on wired connection straight to router and can get 250 mbps. Will call Monday and give them cooling off period yada yada and request they give me new Gigabox router. Is it likely it could get closer to advertised speed if using this?

Specs of device you're resting with?

pk10216

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Specs of device you're resting with?

It's a h96 pro+ android box and I've checked the specs and it seems it's capable

"Gigabit LAN provides a data rate of 1 billion bits per second"

The high horse brigade

pk10216 wrote: »

It's a h96 pro+ android box and I've checked the specs and it seems it's capable

"Gigabit LAN provides a data rate of 1 billion bits per second"

Not at all, get a decent laptop and test. Just because the interface is capable doesn't mean the device itself is up to gigabit speeds. You are doing quite well with that hardware

ED E

pk10216 wrote: »

It's a h96 pro+ android box and I've checked the specs and it seems it's capable

"Gigabit LAN provides a data rate of 1 billion bits per second"

Ugh.


The retail ISPs need to stop selling the gig package without a 20Q test to confirm the user understands how to use it. Otherwise it will just generate thousands of "Slow speed" cases for their support teams to argue out with the user that their 2007 HP is too **** for the service they bought.

Like selling a bugatti to a learner driver.

kaizersoze

lawred2 wrote: »

well we get 84Mb so I'd say we're close enough to the cab... At a guess I'd say it's 250m away

These are my stats and I'm 500m on the button....
RX:81918/ TX:20478(Kbps)

You could have a longer cable run that 250.

ED E

GIMickey wrote: »

Just to follow up on a post I posted a month ago on the speeds of the HG659. I couldn't get more than 150mb on 5Ghz WiFi.

I still have the HG659 but a friend received the gigabox from Vodafone. I took it home and connected it up. See the screenshot for the speeds.

With the gigabox I'm getting very consistent speed around the house and coverage is good too. I got on the phone to Vodafone again and hoping they call me back this time.

degsie

ED E wrote: »

That's from a 4G mobile network?

ED E

degsie wrote: »

That's from a 4G mobile network?

No, its not. He's on 4G taking the screenshot but the icon clearly indicates a wifi test 28 minutes earlier.

cgaie

Thinking of leaving Virginmedia 360 Mbps to get Vodafone 1000 Mbps

At the moment I have virginmedia modem WIFI disabled and Google WIFI connected to the modem for WIFI connection which is fantastic

Have anyone tried this configuration disabling the vodafone gigabox modem WIFI and using the Google WIFI or any other Mesh connection for the WIFI?

ED E

If it was anything other than Google WiFi you would just use that, no Vodafone gear at all. Unfortunately GWifi is missing a crucial feature which gimps it for modern connections.

You could do what you're suggesting though. Upside: lower latency and more stable. Downside: 1tb cap.

cgaie

What about the 1000 Mbps. Are you really getting that speed?

v10

I have Vodafone's Siro Braodband. Was using a Linksys AC1900 and recently replaced it with Vodafone's new Gigabox and find the wifi speeds to be marginally slower (i think the Gigabox is AC1300 vs the Linksys is AC1900) but I'm finding the wired connection much faster, maxing out the gigabit connection at times where the Linksys never did this.

ED E

cgaie wrote: »

What about the 1000 Mbps. Are you really getting that speed?

It's real 1000Mb(950Mb really) but only on devices that can handle it. Wired desktops with 1g cards that aren't ancient etc.



Assuming your Linksys is the older ac1900 then it's only capable of 630Mb wan to lan or thereabouts. The new one is gig capable.

v10

ED E wrote: »

Assuming your Linksys is the older ac1900 then it's only capable of 630Mb wan to lan or thereabouts. The new one is gig capable.

Well that explains it, it was the 1st Gen. But at least it show the Gigabox is capable.

Marlow

The FTTH connection delivered by SIRO and OpenEIR are capable of 1 Gbit/s ... no problems there.

It's down to the router, your provider and your own hardware, if you archieve it. But the GPON technology to deliver it is spot on.

/M

setanta1000

So guys - I have just ordered the upgrade to SIRO from Vodafone from my existing fibre broadband - Rep made no mention of new modem / router - should I insist on getting the Gigabox one?

ED E

Try. Interesting to see what they say.

setanta1000

ED E wrote: »

Try. Interesting to see what they say.

I will but do I NEED it to get optimum speeds? What benefit would it give an average home user?