UFC 229 Nurmagomedov vs McGregor - Sat Oct 6th **Warning in first post!**

Outlaw Pete

McGregor by Sub

rob316 wrote: »

If your so in love with MMA you don't leave it for 2 years to have an exhibition boxing match with and all time great.

No matter how much someone loves competing, I highly doubt many of them would turn down a chance at making $100m, so not seeing your logic there.

dulux99

rob316 wrote: »

If your so in love with MMA you don't leave it for 2 years to have an exhibition boxing match with and all time great.

Because he basically became a euro millions winner out of it? You can be sure every single fighter on the roster would have done the same thing if the offer presented itself.

Dtp1979

rob316 wrote: »

UFC is prizefighting, it's all for money no matter what anyone says.

Yea but he already has all the money. So all that’s left is fighting. His ego, combined with terrible coaching allowing him to take such a stupid fight is why he lost.

dulux99

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Yea but he already has all the money. So all that’s left is fighting. His ego, combined with terrible coaching allowing him to take such a stupid fight is why he lost.

Cmon now. He was beat but it wasn't a stupid fight to take. He was the linear lightweight champion fighting the guy who won the vacant title. The bookies had it relatively close.

Dtp1979

If McGregor cares about his fighting anymore he needs to leave SBG, their yes men, stop training with amateurs and go to America and train somewhere like Aka with elite wrestlers.

Dtp1979

dulux99 wrote: »

Cmon now. He was beat but it wasn't a stupid fight to take. He was the linear lightweight champion fighting the guy who won the vacant title. The bookies had it relatively close.

He came back after a 2 year Lay off to face the best lightweight of all time. It was an idiotic decision made by Kavanagh and Conor’s yes men. If it was for financial reasons then grand, job done.

dulux99

Dtp1979 wrote: »

He came back after a 2 year Lay off to face the best lightweight of all time. It was an idiotic decision made by Kavanagh and Conor’s yes men. If it was for financial reasons then grand, job done.

Come off the stage.

If he came back to fight anyone but Khabib the mma world would have gone insane. People already crib enough about no title defenses, imagine he came back and fought someone who wasn't the champ? Say he beat that person, everyone would have just said he was ducking Khabib.

There was such excitement for this fight as everyone unanimously agreed it was the best vs the best. Just because McGregor lost doesn't change any of this.

Edit - whatever about now - but khabib was not the best LW of all time going into this. Who was his best win? Dos Anjos?

Dtp1979

Just because people wanted it dosent mean conor was able for it. He CLEARLY wasn’t. He needed a tune up fight. Tony Ferguson and khabib should’ve fought for the title. Conor get the winner

blade1

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Just because people wanted it dosent mean conor was able for it. He CLEARLY wasn’t. He needed a tune up fight. Tony Ferguson and khabib should’ve fought for the title. Conor get the winner

And what if he lost his tune up fight?

dulux99

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Just because people wanted it dosent mean conor was able for it. He CLEARLY wasn’t. He needed a tune up fight. Tony Ferguson and khabib should’ve fought for the title. Conor get the winner

No chance.

Ferguson vs Khabib has been scheduled 4 times and never happened. Ferguson had just had a gruesome injury and debilitating surgery earlier this year.

UFC doesn't do tune up fights. Never have. GSP didn't take a tune up fight after his 4 year lay off.

Whether he was able for it or not is not the point. He was always going to come back and fight the champ, he was the lineal champ.

He lost the fight. Big deal.

Fall_Guy

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Just because people wanted it dosent mean conor was able for it. He CLEARLY wasn’t. He needed a tune up fight. Tony Ferguson and khabib should’ve fought for the title. Conor get the winner

In what way wasn't he able for it?? He had a full training camp, clearly put serious work into his defensive wrestling, and was by all accounts well prepared.

He fought quite well in the context of the fight as it played out, but was beaten by the fighter who is a stylistic nightmare for him, and was able to impose his game from the outset.

A few fights ago he was beaten by a gatekeeper who had been on the sauce a week or two before the fight. Its MMA, fighters lose.

Dtp1979

blade1 wrote: »

And what if he lost his tune up fight?

Then so be it.
Ferguson was fit to fight that night. Dosent matter if ufc don’t do tune up fights. Conor tells them what to do and he should’ve used his head and not gone in against a killer like khabib. Fcuk the fans, it was McGregors ego and his yes men that led him to believe he was going to win and he was the same fighter as 2016. He clearly wasn’t and The fight wasn’t even close because of it

Dtp1979

Fall_Guy wrote: »

In what way wasn't he able for it?? He had a full training camp, clearly put serious work into his defensive wrestling, and was by all accounts well prepared.

He fought quite well in the context of the fight as it played out, but was beaten by the fighter who is a stylistic nightmare for him, and was able to impose his game from the outset.

A few fights ago he was beaten by a gatekeeper who had been on the sauce a week or two before the fight. Its MMA, fighters lose.

He wasn’t able for it. Sure he defended. He had NOTHING standing up. Barley survived on the ground. Shocking cardio. An 8 week camp after 2 years of livin like a rockstar was not enough prep. He wasn’t able to offer anything in the fight

dulux99

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Then so be it.
Ferguson was fit to fight that night. Dosent matter if ufc don’t do tune up fights. Conor tells them what to do and he should’ve used his head and not gone in against a killer like khabib. Fcuk the fans, it was McGregors ego and his yes men that led him to believe he was going to win and he was the same fighter as 2016. He clearly wasn’t and The fight wasn’t even close because of it

You're talking absolute sh*te.

They scheduled Khabib vs Ferguson FOUR times and it never happened. But you expected them to reschedule it in the same year when Ferguson came off a horrendous injury? Ferguson was more deserving of a tuneup than McGregor.

Dominic Cruz came off a two year, injury ridden layoff to fight the champion - and guess what, he won. Mcgregor had two healthy years out of the cage and was in phenomenal shape. I'd agree with you if he came in looking flabby, but he looked as good physically as he ever did.

People are just never happy. Doesn't defend a title? Coward! Comes back and fights the top dog? Idiot!

Dtp1979

I’m not happy or unhappy about it. Dominic Cruz wouldn’t be the party animal that conor would be. Whether the fans wanted it or not, and fcuk what other fighters did with similar situations, he was not ready or even near ready. He was poor, shocking in fact standing up.

Tazzimus

His cardio was improved on previous fights, considering he was defending against a relentless wrestler, he also done rather well against said wrestler considering people have been saying he can't wrestle.

He defended very well on the ground, Khabib couldn't do what he normally does.

He came up short against a man who wanted it more and had a better game plan on the night, it happens to everyone eventually.

As for him going to AKA to train, he'd spend more time injured from their ridiculous training regime than anything else.

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Subcomandante Marcos

Nurmagomedov by Sub

evolving tipperary wrote: »

I don't think King Mo landed a single strike either. Hats off to Bader but what does that say about Bellator?

Bader is top 3 LHWs on earth and probably top 10 at HW. That's what it says about Bellator. They have some of the best fighters on earth across multiple divisions from chandler to Rory to Heard to Bader and others.

Dtp1979

Tazzimus wrote: »

His cardio was improved on previous fights, considering he was defending against a relentless wrestler, he also done rather well against said wrestler considering people have been saying he can't wrestle.

He defended very well on the ground, Khabib couldn't do what he normally does.

He came up short against a man who wanted it more and had a better game plan on the night, it happens to everyone eventually.

As for him going to AKA to train, he'd spend more time injured from their ridiculous training regime than anything else.

Aka is just an example. Somewhere with elite wrestlers

McGregor is a busted flush folks..

Tazzimus

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Aka is just an example. Somewhere with elite wrestlers

What difference is that going to make? He's never going to our wrestle someone doing it since they were a child.

Dtp1979

Tazzimus wrote: »

What difference is that going to make? He's never going to our wrestle someone doing it since they were a child.

To learn better defensive wrestling. Same way Robbie Lawlor did

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McGregor by Sub

"Its only business".... meaning; "you're killing me, I'm done".

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froog

McGregor by Sub

dulux99 wrote:

Dominic Cruz came off a two year, injury ridden layoff to fight the champion - and guess what, he won. Mcgregor had two healthy years out of the cage and was in phenomenal shape. I'd agree with you if he came in looking flabby, but he looked as good physically as he ever did.

2 healthy years? come on, the guy was partying like a lunatic.

spix

Martin Unsightly Headboard wrote: »

"Its only business".... meaning; "you're killing me, I'm done".

Why are you randomly posting a false quote that people aren't even talking about? There's clearer audio out now which yet again confirms, he did not say 'it's only business'

Subcomandante Marcos

Nurmagomedov by Sub

Sure he didn't.

spix

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Sure he didn't.

No he didn't and I don't understand why you and many others want to believe thats what he said. You really hate the guy that much you have to pretend he said something? The audio is there, any unbiased person could easily conclude that 'its only business' does not even come close to matching the audio. Its a made up statement that haters are using to try poke fun at mcgregor. Pretty sad really.

blade1

spix wrote: »

Why are you randomly posting a false quote that people aren't even talking about? There's clearer audio out now which yet again confirms, he did not say 'it's only business'

What did he say so?

spix

blade1 wrote: »

What did he say so?

Its not clear enough to say for certain because of the crowd in the background and in general its hard to fully understand someonewhos breathing heavy and wearing a mouthguard....but there is literally 0 chance its 'its only business'. He only says 2 words, and the first word definitely sounds nothing like 'only' not to mention only is 2 syllables and first word Conor says only has 1 syllable. I'm 100% sure the first word begins with F.


In the version I heard with better audio, I'm almost certain Conor says 'Fine clinches' then khabib says 'You tired?' followed by 'Hey, lets go'. My 2nd guess would be Fight business which would be a reply to Khabib complaining to the ref. People trying to saying Conor is apologizing is just stupid.