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Is indicator usage optional?

  • 05-09-2018 11:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭


    What's the story with so many people not knowing or caring to use an indicator? Based on my magic hat statistics, I would say a 80% of drivers are guilty of this behaviour.

    I consider it a complete disregard for other motorists on the road not to bother to indicate. Especially on roundabouts, not only do people not indicate, but most of them indicate incorrectly, which is even worse!

    If there is one thing I would really like enforced, it's the indicator usage. I know I'm ranting here, but it really irks me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Section 23 of the 1964 Act


    23.—(1) Whenever a driver intends to slow down, stop or alter course, he shall either give a hand signal in accordance with the following Table or give a signal by using a direction indicator or stop lamp :


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    It depends on what brand you drive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Ah, we havent had a good indicator discussion in a while.

    In before someone makes a BMW joke and all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Ah, we havent had a good indicator discussion in a while.

    In before someone makes a BMW joke and all!

    It's caught on across all makes so they are all tools now ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    And you can be assured if you interviewed all drivers concerned 100% of them will tell you they are fantastic drivers.

    Is it time the indicators automatically become directional such as when fog lights on one side of a car light up nowadays? Or is that too confusing?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Is it time the indicators automatically become directional such as when fog lights on one side of a car light up nowadays? Or is that too confusing?

    How would that work? They come on once you start turning?

    It's probably a bit late at that stage to 'signal your intentions' no?

    Although I guess a late signal might be a bit better than none at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭raxy


    CyberGhost wrote: »
    not only do people not indicate, but most of them indicate incorrectly, which is even worse!.

    How do they not indicate at all and indicate incorrectly?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Is it time the indicators automatically become directional such as when fog lights on one side of a car light up nowadays? Or is that too confusing?

    It is, because I can't make head nor tail of this...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭padyjoe


    Not making excuse as I'm using them every time but having grown up on LHD cars what I've noticed is while you changing gear with your right, your left is still able to flick the stalk, on RHD one could miss few moments if not quick enough with moving back from the gearstick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Is it time the indicators automatically become directional such as when fog lights on one side of a car light up nowadays? Or is that too confusing?

    Safety net for arseholes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    - Brain is too busy thinking about more important stuff.
    - Too important to use them.
    - Did you not know what I was doing, it was obvious like?
    - Too cool to use them.
    - Don't care, not my problem.
    - They don't work anyway. I'll get them fixed for the NCT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,367 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    The amount of people who don't use them is shocking. I love it when I go for a run. Traffic coming off the 80kph outer ring road have a habit of not indicating while I'm cautiously running across the traffic island.

    And of course those that do indicate force their way in front of you half the time.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    The amount of people who don't use them is shocking. I love it when I go for a run. Traffic coming off the 80kph outer ring road have a habit of not indicating while I'm cautiously running across the traffic island.

    And of course those that do indicate force their way in front of you half the time.

    They've put on their indicators, so its their right, dontchya know....:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    ah indication - and esp on roundabouts!

    I remember one person saying they indicate that they are going onto a roundabout - I asked what was the other option and was met with a blank face.


    Same driver also indicated going around some bends :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭seagull


    I think the most annoying are the ones who give a single blip of the indicator halfway through the manoeuvre. They are obviously aware that the indicators are there and should be used, but can't engage their brain cell to do it in a meaningful way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Yes, its optional all right. Most people use them, most of the time, but its kinda up to the driver. I would always indicate for example, if on my own in the car, and generally focused on driving. But if you are having good crack with your passengers, are on the phone, bopping along to a good tune, or in more of a hurry, then yeh, they can tend to get sidelined. To each his own on this one I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Aren't indicators only for those who don't understand road positioning & lanes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Trasna1


    So the law says that they have to be used, but their non or incorrect use has no bearing on liability in an accident yes?

    I wonder had anyone been called up on that specific paragraph of legislation relating to the use of indicators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    It wasnt too bad in Ireland when I left 4 years ago, and it surely cant be as bad as the German/Swiss here, they dont care who's around them its a strict no usage policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    CyberGhost wrote: »
    What's the story with so many people not knowing or caring to use an indicator? Based on my magic hat statistics, I would say a 80% of drivers are guilty of this behaviour.

    I consider it a complete disregard for other motorists on the road not to bother to indicate. Especially on roundabouts, not only do people not indicate, but most of them indicate incorrectly, which is even worse!

    If there is one thing I would really like enforced, it's the indicator usage. I know I'm ranting here, but it really irks me.

    It's only optional on BMW's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    As a BMW driver, everyone is wrong, I am right. The indicator is an optional extra, but I went for heated seats instead.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    It depends on what brand you drive

    It's funny,
    You'd think its the low budget cars like Dacia's that come with no indicators, but its actually the more expensive one's :pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    And you can be assured if you interviewed all drivers concerned 100% of them will tell you they are fantastic drivers.

    Is it time the indicators automatically become directional such as when fog lights on one side of a car light up nowadays? Or is that too confusing?
    To quote Mr Clarkson "that's an afterthoughticator"

    And whats with fog lights coming on as people turn, is that to make up for stupidity/laziness?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,367 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Borderfox wrote: »
    And you can be assured if you interviewed all drivers concerned 100% of them will tell you they are fantastic drivers.

    Is it time the indicators automatically become directional such as when fog lights on one side of a car light up nowadays? Or is that too confusing?
    To quote Mr Clarkson "that's an afterthoughticator"

    And whats with fog lights coming on as people turn, is that to make up for stupidity/laziness?

    Newer VAG cars fog light comes on as a turning light. It's actually quite useful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    It wasnt too bad in Ireland when I left 4 years ago, and it surely cant be as bad as the German/Swiss here, they dont care who's around them its a strict no usage policy.

    I would expect the Germans and Swiss to be the models of indicator usage.


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