Free Scientology events

harr

So I noticed on Facebook and other social media that the Scientology centre in firehouse has started to run free family events.
The next one is at the end of September and it’s a dinosaur family fun day, all free of course once you give them your name address and contact details.
Are people unaware in Ireland the history of Scientology Or what they are.
I mentioned it to a few friends who are tagged as going and have got tickets and they didn’t have a clue about them and just said it’s a day out for the kids.
So what are people’s view on this ? harmless day out or something more sinister.

verycool

Don't drink the coolade!

This is indoctrination on a scientological level... oh wait.

lmimmfn

Yay, do any of them include a screening of Battlefield Earth?

Noveight

I know it's Tom Cruise's gig and he was laying pipe in Katie Holmes AND Nicole Kidman.

If that's part of it then I might have a look at a few brochures, yeah.

branie2

Will Tom Cruise be making an appearance?

And when is this free weekend?

Gimme A Pound

Deleted User wrote: »

And when is this free weekend?

It's... this weekend.

riffmongous

Seismology! Scienceology!

Boston Prehistoric Peppercorn

Boston Prehistoric Peppercorn wrote: »

It's... this weekend.

And how much does this free weekend cost?

GarIT

I've wondered if there would be potential benefits to going along. I've read a lot of bad things but those involved seem to live good lifestyles and progress through the ranks in their chosen careers rapidly. It seems like a potential ticket to becoming successful.

WanderlustIre

Flawed beliefs, Flawed church, Paedophile founder.

GarIT

Deleted User wrote: »

And how much does this free weekend cost?

A lifetime of receiving promotional material apparently. It will be addressed to you so a no junk mail sign won't stop it either.

WanderlustIre

GarIT wrote: »

I've wondered if there would be potential benefits to going along. I've read a lot of bad things but those involved seem to live good lifestyles and progress through the ranks in their chosen careers rapidly. It seems like a potential ticket to becoming successful.

You clearly havent read enough. Their careers are scientology. Sea Org, Chruch administration eTc

Sleeper12

This amazes me everytime someone brings up big bad Scientology. It hasn't done a a fraction of the damage as the Catholic Church yet you'd happily let your friends get involved with them.

What makes one a cult & one a religion?

They are both nuts imo but I could never say Scientology is more harmful than the church

GarIT

WanderlustIre wrote: »

Flawed beliefs, Flawed church, Paedophile founder.

You're not very clear about which religion you are talking about, that description applies to almost all of them.

namloc1980

If they went straight to the alien overlord thing loads of people would get involved, but alas they don't.

branie2

Na, Na, Na, Na, Na - leader!

WanderlustIre

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This amazes me everytime someone brings up big bad Scientology. It hasn't done a a fraction of the damage as the Catholic Church yet you'd happily let your friends get involved with them.

What makes one a cult & one a religion?

They are both nuts imo but I could never say Scientology is more harmful than the church

John travoltas son?

WanderlustIre

GarIT wrote: »

You're not very clear about which religion you are talking about, that description applies to almost all of them.

Im referring to the church your a member of. L ron Hubbard was a paedo

GarIT

WanderlustIre wrote: »

You clearly havent read enough. Their careers are scientology. Sea Org, Chruch administration eTc

Outside of that. They don't all work within the church. Some friends in the acting business have told me it's much easier to find work as a scientologist, they seem to all work together to get eachother promoted in other fields too.

riffmongous

branie2 wrote: »

Na, Na, Na, Na, Na - leader!

Batman! I mean Leader! I love the Leader!

WanderlustIre

GarIT wrote: »

Outside of that. They don't all work within the church. Some friends in the acting business have told me it's much easier to find work as a scientologist, they seem to all work together to get eachother promoted in other fields too.

Thats apparently what the celeb center in hollywood tells people. Your literally reading their rebuttals verbatim.

NOVA MCMXCIV

Scientology? More like... w*nker... ...W*nkerology!

GarIT

WanderlustIre wrote: »

Im referring to the church your a member of. L ron Hubbard was a paedo

I'm not a member of any church. I'm strongly agnostic. I was just pondering the potential benefits of joining a cult that seems to push people to be successful as crazy as that cult may be.

WanderlustIre

GarIT wrote: »

I'm not a member of any church. I'm strongly agnostic. I was just pondering the potential benefits of joining a cult that seems to push people to be successful as crazy as that cult may be.

Rubbish. You spouted their defence lines regarding actors.

zapitastas

The last podcast on the left have a great three part podcast on good old L Ron. Creepy little lunatic

zapitastas

GarIT wrote: »

I'm not a member of any church. I'm strongly agnostic. I was just pondering the potential benefits of joining a cult that seems to push people to be successful as crazy as that cult may be.

They targeted actors as they were household names and would give good publicity so they could milk the lemmings at the bottom for all they were worth. In fairness they also milk the celebrities as well

Sleeper12

WanderlustIre wrote:

John travoltas son?

700 tuam babies?

Radiant Cool Crazy Nightmare

Wait I'm confused about the movie, so the cops knew internal affairs were setting them up...

Gimme A Pound

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This amazes me everytime someone brings up big bad Scientology. It hasn't done a a fraction of the damage as the Catholic Church yet you'd happily let your friends get involved with them.

What makes one a cult & one a religion?

They are both nuts imo but I could never say Scientology is more harmful than the church

It amazes me when people appear to downplay its dangers - yes it is big and bad. So what if other religions are as bad? It doesn't necessarily follow that scientology is therefore less deserving of the criticism. I mean, you can criticise both. And at least people can leave the Catholic church today or choose not to practise. Also they don't have to pay thousands and thousands to progress.

Avatar MIA

I'd rather give my details to Jehovah Witnesses.

GarIT

WanderlustIre wrote: »

Rubbish. You spouted their defence lines regarding actors.

First time I've ever been called a scientologist, I can assure you I am not, but you probably won't believe me anyway so there is no point in arguing about it. If you check my post history you will see I am clearly against all organised religion.

WanderlustIre

Sleeper12 wrote: »

700 tuam babies?

Catholic church are scum too. Where have i said different.

WanderlustIre

GarIT wrote: »

First time I've ever been called a scientologist, I can assure you I am not, but you probably won't believe me anyway so there is no point in arguing about it. If you check my post history you will see I am clearly against all organised religion.

What level are ya?

Agent Coulson

I hear Scientology has got members to start threads on boards advertising events and family days.

diusmr8a504cvk

GarIT wrote: »

A lifetime of receiving promotional material apparently. It will be addressed to you so a no junk mail sign won't stop it either.

Do those work? See them on doors all the time but I thought surely the postman has do his job anyway.

Absoluvely

Tramampoline! Trambopoline!

fando

zapitastas wrote: »

They targeted actors as they were household names and would give good publicity so they could milk the lemmings at the bottom for all they were worth. In fairness they also milk the celebrities as well

I've got nothing to loose, but my innocence. Maybe I should give it a go?

GarIT

Boston Prehistoric Peppercorn wrote: »

It amazes me when people appear to downplay its dangers - yes it is big and bad. So what if other religions are as bad? It doesn't necessarily follow that scientology is therefore less deserving of the criticism. I mean, you can criticise both. And at least people can leave the Catholic church today or choose not to practise. Also they don't have to pay thousands and thousands to progress.

I think the point was with Christianity you don't have as many jumping in so quickly to talk about how bad it is when arguably in total it is worse, but on a per member basis I haven't heard as many bad things about anything else as I have Scientology.

Just a correction though, you cannot leave the Catholic Church, they changed the rules to forbid it about 6 months after I turned 18 and just before I got around to leaving myself. Now that say once you're in you're always Catholic no matter what you feel or decide yourself. If asked for historical records in the future they will confirm that you were Catholic even if you hated the church since your first independent thought.

Sleeper12

OP is wondering if they should warn their friends of the danger. I'm just wondering why op wouldn't be warning their friends about the danger of the Catholic Church? We know for a fact that they have been involved in slavery, human trafficking, torture, sexual abuse & much more. Many of its priests have been convinced & sentenced to prison. We know that non offending priests & bishops have covered up these crimes often letting rapists move on to rape more children.

I just think it a bit nuts to warn people about one religion but not the other.

Edit
You can't leave the church. I was baptised as a baby and I can't be unbaptised. The church won't let me leave if I want to

GarIT

Lilah Massive Yogurt wrote: »

Do those work? See them on doors all the time but I thought surely the postman has do his job anyway.

Yeah, I'd say I had a 90% reduction in junk mail since I put one up. I also fire off a one line complaint email to any I do get and that seems to stop the ones that come in despite the sign most of the time except Maxi Zoo.

GarIT

zapitastas wrote: »

They targeted actors as they were household names and would give good publicity so they could milk the lemmings at the bottom for all they were worth. In fairness they also milk the celebrities as well

I heard they demand 10% of your income, but if they increase your income by more than 10% are you not, as Charlie Sheen says, winning.

branie2

The film Phenomenon has Scientology connections

riffmongous

Radiant Cool Crazy Nightmare wrote: »

Wait I'm confused about the movie, so the cops knew internal affairs were setting them up...

zen new jersey nowhere

Radiant Cool Crazy Nightmare

riffmongous wrote: »

zen new jersey nowhere

Haha, not too many get it.

riffmongous

Radiant Cool Crazy Nightmare wrote: »

Haha, not too many get it.

It's one of my favourite phrases

deco nate

GarIT wrote: »

I heard they demand 10% of your income, but if they increase your income by more than 10% are you not, as Charlie Sheen says, winning.

10%,? you are a funny guy.. *cough, bull**** *

Infini

At the risk of sounding cliche, whenever it comes to ANYTHING free or otherwise with the "church" of scientolgy....

The Crowman

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This amazes me everytime someone brings up big bad Scientology. It hasn't done a a fraction of the damage as the Catholic Church yet you'd happily let your friends get involved with them.

What makes one a cult & one a religion?

They are both nuts imo but I could never say Scientology is more harmful than the church

Who's "you"? And who's defending catholicism on this thread? Are non catholic belief systems off limits for discussion on AH?

GarIT

deco nate wrote: »

10%,? you are a funny guy.. *cough, bull**** *

That's what I've heard, if it's more or less I've no idea, only know whatever hearsay happens in the local don't know much more about them other than reading bits by anonymous and watching going clear.

mrwhimwham

Read a great book on Scientology last year (Ruthless: Scientology, My Son David Miscavige, and Me). The father of the current "leader" details his time in the organisation from it's early beginnings to his life out of it. Absolutely fascinates me as to how people (some of them highly educated) can get into these cults in today's day and age