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5 Series Touring or similar

  • 15-08-2018 1:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭


    Hey everyone, 
    I know there has been threads done on this topic over and over. I'm currently looking to purchase a 5 Series Touring or A6 Avant possibly,. I would love something around 2015/2016. I have not been able to find a car in Ireland with the spec I would like.

    Current Wish-List (BMW)
    • Space Grey
    • Pro Nav
    • Cream Leather
    • 19" wheels


    I have been looking in the 520d space. However I have been told by some friends in the trade the 530d is a far superior machine. I have been looking on Pistonheads, Auto-Trader and all the other well known sites. 
    I would be looking at a budget of 20/25k. Am I setting my expectations of getting something of this year and spec to high

    The dream machine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭dohc


    I don't know how I didn't see this one. Thats a nice spec. What do you think of it bazz26. Do you think its at a good price. Anything needs to be considering when I ring them on it ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Both the car you linked and bazz linked are on 18s.
    I have an msport 5 series on 19s and I recommend you stick with 18s. Mine is a bit harsh on poorly surfaced roads which are everywhere to be honest

    530d loads and loads of grunt, awesome cars
    520d, enough grunt but not exceptional

    Space grey, good call
    Cream leather, good call but if you could get one with black floors it would be better. I've tan leather and black floors, looks lovely contrasted plus cream carpets get manky
    Pro nav, essential in my view
    80000 miles is high on that one so consider resale value if you're one to get upset by depreciation

    Otherwise looks good to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Both the car you linked and bazz linked are on 18s.
    I have an msport 5 series on 19s and I recommend you stick with 18s. Mine is a bit harsh on poorly surfaced roads which are everywhere to be honest


    530d loads and loads of grunt, awesome cars
    520d, enough grunt but not exceptional

    Space grey, good call
    Cream leather, good call but if you could get one with black floors it would be better. I've tan leather and black floors, looks lovely contrasted plus cream carpets get manky
    Pro nav, essential in my view
    80000 miles is high on that one so consider resale value if you're one to get upset by depreciation

    Otherwise looks good to me

    The one I linked to are 19", they are Style 351 rims as on my own F10 530d. 19" rims on the F10 are very comfortable even with run flat tyres and the F11 has air suspension which makes them even more comfortable. Unless you drive regularly on really bad roads with craters they will be fine. Tyres are obviously that bit more expensive than 18" but imo the 19" fill the F10/F11 arches better than the 18".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭Ardeehey


    I bought an A6 Sline Avant this year, 189bhp (142), it's on 18's, love the handling and the stronic box is nice, albeit not quite as smooth as the BMW box. Love the boot shape in it, metal grey, black leather. It was a UK car, got it here for 25k and just under 50 miles. If you are not in a rush then you will come across something that suits, I was looking for 6 months and held off until I got what I needed or at least ticked enough boxes for me.

    Good luck hunting


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭dohc


    Thanks for the responses everyone. I have been looking for a good while to be honest. I'm torn between the A6 and the 5 series. I always wanted a touring, so I feel I should go with it. I'm running out of time as we have a baby due in a couple of weeks and I wanted to have it arranged before then. 
    I have been speaking to the garage that Baz linked me to and they are not willing to drop on the price. I was expecting that to be honest, thats fine. If I do little mileage maybe 15k a year, would 80k miles be levelled out over 5 years, which is the expect length of ownership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I don't know about resale values on one in 5 years time but given it will be nearly 9 years old at that stage resale values won't be strong anyway.

    This one is a year younger with small mileage but I think when you take exchange rates and VRT into account it probably breaks your budget. The upside is that you probably would get more for it when you came to sell it on.

    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808029089992?postcode=bt11aa&exclude-writeoff-categories=on&year-from=2015&year-to=2016&sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=M%20Sport&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=5%20SERIES&radius=1500&colour=Grey&make=BMW&body-type=Estate&page=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    Check out the 525d - Nice bit of power over the 520d, not as smooth as the 6 cyl 530d but also not as heavy on the front axel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭KFed


    Interested in an f11 also, trying to stay in a 16plate or newer and looking to the u.k.

    Can I ask, some seem to have the paddle shift while others don't. Is that a model year feature or is it a spec feature (m sport only?).

    Also, have a 1year old baby, I presume the f11 is perfectly fine as regards space for car seats, buggy etc. Currently in a Honda crv and I'm assuming an f11 is at least as practical?

    Grateful for any real world family experience!
    Preference is a 530d also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    KFed wrote: »
    Interested in an f11 also, trying to stay in a 16plate or newer and looking to the u.k.

    Can I ask, some seem to have the paddle shift while others don't. Is that a model year feature or is it a spec feature (m sport only?).

    Also, have a 1year old baby, I presume the f11 is perfectly fine as regards space for car seats, buggy etc. Currently in a Honda crv and I'm assuming an f11 is at least as practical?

    Grateful for any real world family experience!
    Preference is a 530d also.

    Have f10 and kuga.

    Yes the f11 will probably be more practical. My only word of warning on the change is that it will be slightly harder to get the child into the car seat.

    Not hard.

    Just a little more bending. I have no problem with it. My wife does and will always drive the kuga.

    Otherwise boot in f11 bigger than crv plenty seat space in 5 series.
    Watch out for lighter seat colours in the 5 series. Mine is a light grey. I actually take the 2 year olds shoes off in the car to stop her destroying the seats.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    KFed wrote: »
    Interested in an f11 also, trying to stay in a 16plate or newer and looking to the u.k.

    Can I ask, some seem to have the paddle shift while others don't. Is that a model year feature or is it a spec feature (m sport only?).

    Also, have a 1year old baby, I presume the f11 is perfectly fine as regards space for car seats, buggy etc. Currently in a Honda crv and I'm assuming an f11 is at least as practical?

    Grateful for any real world family experience!
    Preference is a 530d also.

    There is the normal 8 speed auto and there is the 8 speed Sport auto. The gear ratios are the same on both, the only difference is the Sport has a different shifter stick and paddle shifts on the steering wheel. The Sport auto used to be an optional extra but became standard in the later models especially the bigger engined models.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭KFed


    Thanks bazz, would prefer the paddle shift. Do you know when it became standard?


    Good to know the boot and seats are fine also, thanks a mill!

    If we get the f11 most likely move on the crv so don't want to hear that the crv is missed for practicality!

    Is the ride OK in the m sport? Commute would be 20miles each way daily. 50% m1 50% north county Dublin r / l roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭heroics


    Have f10 and kuga.

    Yes the f11 will probably be more practical. My only word of warning on the change is that it will be slightly harder to get the child into the car seat.

    Not hard.

    Just a little more bending. I have no problem with it. My wife does and will always drive the kuga.

    Otherwise boot in f11 bigger than crv plenty seat space in 5 series.
    Watch out for lighter seat colours in the 5 series. Mine is a light grey. I actually take the 2 year olds shoes off in the car to stop her destroying the seats.

    We have an f10 and my wife is pregnant and finds putting the first lad (18months) in a bit awkward. Fixed that by getting one of the swivel baby seats. One of the best inventions ever. No more complaints from my wife 😀.

    I’m looking at getting a touring in jan once the 2nd arrives.

    I have cream leather and cream carpets. As mentioned above cream carpets are a b*tch to keep clean. I’d get black if I had the choice.

    I have the msport with 19s and never had a problem with the ride. It’s not as comfortable as the e240 I had years ago but that handled like a barge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    KFed wrote: »
    Thanks bazz, would prefer the paddle shift. Do you know when it became standard?


    Good to know the boot and seats are fine also, thanks a mill!

    If we get the f11 most likely move on the crv so don't want to hear that the crv is missed for practicality!

    Is the ride OK in the m sport? Commute would be 20miles each way daily. 50% m1 50% north county Dublin r / l roads.

    I think they were an option right up to the end of the F10/F11 model run in early 2017. Definitely standard on the newer G30 5 Series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭KFed


    Thanks Bazz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    Rear doors on the F11 have better access compared to the F10

    It does feel kinda low, especially if you're parked next to a curb and have to lean down - We have a swivel seat and it's the business.

    Loads of space in the F11 - you can throw up the internal catch net and fill the boot up to the brim.

    On long journeys, I take the buggie apart and put all the wheels and extra bits in the cubbie holes in the boot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭Mr.David


    I recently got rid of my e90 325i M sport and got a 14 520d Msport touring from BMW up north. I paid more for the fact that it is BMW approved of course but wanted the warranty and also was able to buy it unseen and just go and collect (they would have refunded me if I changed my mind too).

    - Ride is vastly improved despite both being M Sport and both being 18 inch alloys. Still a bit choppy though on rough surfaces

    - 19s look great but I wouldnt sacrifice ride quality and also prone to cracking I think

    - Have the flappy paddles, never use them. Its a very relaxing car to drive and they just seem pointless to me.

    - I drive more slowly now, apart from on motorways. The character of the car is just so much more relaxed, the 325 was urgent by comparison.

    - Refinement is really good, probably the biggest reason i wanted the 5 over the 3.

    - The main extra I dont have that I would want is folding mirrors, frankly its ridiculous in car of this size that they arent standard. Aside from that I have black leather and would prefer the dakota lemon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭dohc


    Hey everyone. So just an update, I was going to go with Baz26 recommendation on a lower mileage option. I stalled and missed it, lesson learned. I have been on the look out ever since. Nothing popping out again. I'm now open to black leather also. 

    I see the Original 520d is still available, however I'm hesitant on it due to mileage.Am I mad to buy it. Seems to tick all my boxes otherwise.  Thoughts ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    dohc wrote: »
    Hey everyone. So just an update, I was going to go with Baz26 recommendation on a lower mileage option. I stalled and missed it, lesson learned. I have been on the look out ever since. Nothing popping out again. I'm now open to black leather also. 

    I see the Original 520d is still available, however I'm hesitant on it due to mileage.Am I mad to buy it. Seems to tick all my boxes otherwise.  Thoughts ?

    No I don't think so. You'll lose money on it anyway so once this is a decent price for age and above average mileage I say go for it if it ticks all boxes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Nice car with nice options but I'd be vary wary of buying any BMW at that age or mileage without a BMW warranty. UK AUC warranty is 1 year, 2 years here. Tread carefully!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭dohc


    Yep my head is saying the same, heart is saying buy. To be honest there is some great cars, but before you know it you are tempted into blowing your budget. Last week I was nearly about to pull the trigger on a car that would be 28/29k landed. I was only supposed to spend 20k max :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    You can take out a BMW warranty here yourself @ www.bmw-warranty.ie. Not cheap but adds peace of mind and the full warranty is pretty much the same as what a BMW dealer will give you here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭ravendude


    <EDIT> See post below with fixed URLs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭ravendude


    ravendude wrote: »
    I'm keeping an eye out also for a 5 series tourer, or an Audi A5.
    I generally just look at the Audi and BMW websites as I am going to limit to AUC for warranty and general piece of mind.
    This should come in close to budget I'd say (You mentioned 24 to 25K) and lower mileage, - nice looking cars too. You might get very lucky and get a few quid off, not sure
    https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201807258793417?location=Birmingham, UK&quot;eref=596d737d-8eeb-4532-b30a-43c75d6b0ee2
    and this:
    https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201807068198433?location=Birmingham, UK&quot;eref=c6677bbf-55ce-408c-890e-b47d5554ca68
    Slightly over 20K euro when converted, and VRT comes in at 4750 euro, + add travel costs your're scratching the 25K.
    A few more options: 
    https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/result/?body_type=Touring&amp;distance=300&amp;location=Birmingham,+UK&amp;max_age=3.5&amp;max_supplied_price=18000&amp;min_supplied_price=14000&amp;model=5+SERIES&amp;source=home
    EDIT: Sorry, URLs fixed below, can't seem to edit them in place.
    I'm keeping an eye out also for a 5 series tourer, or an Audi A5.
    I generally just look at the Audi and BMW websites as I am going to limit to AUC for warranty and general piece of mind.
    This should come in close to budget I'd say (You mentioned 24 to 25K) and lower mileage, - nice looking cars too. You might get very lucky and get a few quid off, not sure
    https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201807258793417?location=Birmingham,%20UK"eref=596d737d-8eeb-4532-b30a-43c75d6b0ee2
    and this:
    https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201807068198433?location=Birmingham,%20UK"eref=c6677bbf-55ce-408c-890e-b47d5554ca68
    Slightly over 20K euro when converted, and VRT comes in at 4750 euro, + add travel costs your're scratching the 25K.
    A few more options: 
    https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/result/?body_type=Touring&distance=300&location=Birmingham%2C+UK&max_age=3.5&max_supplied_price=18000&min_supplied_price=14000&model=5+SERIES&source=home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭dohc


    Thinking about looking at thiscar at the weekend. The only downfall is the smaller screen . Thoughts ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    You could always upgrade the idrive with an aftermarket widescreen ProNav version if you wanted. Somebody did it here recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    dohc wrote: »
    Thinking about looking at thiscar at the weekend. The only downfall is the smaller screen . Thoughts ?

    I think you would curse that small screen every time you looked at it! I would hold out for the widescreen. You know one will be along shortly.

    You are also at the change point for the N47 being updated to the B47 engine so that might be a consideration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭dohc


    dohc wrote: »
    Thinking about looking at thiscar at the weekend. The only downfall is the smaller screen . Thoughts ?

    I think you would curse that small screen every time you looked at it! I would hold out for the widescreen. You know one will be along shortly.

    You are also at the change point for the N47 being updated to the B47 engine so that might be a consideration.
    Is this something that I need to be worried about ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    dohc wrote: »
    Is this something that I need to be worried about ?

    In a nutshell:

    N47 can suffer from timing chains issues, some say it was never fully cured despite various updates. Key to longevity is annual oil changes. BMW will invariably fix it if the chain is on the way out.

    B47 from late 2014 supposedly addressed timing chain issues but there are those that say this is not the case. B47 has lower C02 and a bit more power but has a few issues, noisy dpf regen and recall for faulty EGR coolers. Also some say not as frugal a N47.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Looking at the screen all of seconds when getting in the car or driving. Screensize tbh isnt really a reason to hold up on purchasing something. not for me anyway. You gain nothing but a wider screen.... for what? you dont spend time in the screen nav, Your driving the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    listermint wrote: »
    Looking at the screen all of seconds when getting in the car or driving. Screensize tbh isnt really a reason to hold up on purchasing something. not for me anyway. You gain nothing but a wider screen.... for what? you dont spend time in the screen nav, Your driving the car.

    With the larger screen you can split the content, so the left may be radio stations, the right might be sat nav. Quite useful. The interior of the F10 is a wonderful piece of design, and the small screen really lets it down IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    With the larger screen you can split the content, so the left may be radio stations, the right might be sat nav. Quite useful. The interior of the F10 is a wonderful piece of design, and the small screen really lets it down IMO.

    I had a similar thought when buying my V60, but the overall car beat it. And frankly i dont miss a larger screen. The last thing id be looking at when driving is a split multiscreen. Pointless.

    If every other box is ticked its really not a weakness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's more than just the screen size though, the ProNav iDrive with the widescreen has extra features and functionality that the narrow screened iDrive doesn't have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    bazz26 wrote: »
    It's more than just the screen size though, the ProNav iDrive with the widescreen has extra features and functionality that the narrow screened iDrive doesn't have.

    Such as what, which would stop you buying the car ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    listermint wrote: »
    Such as what, which would stop you buying the car ?

    There is no shortage of F10/F11, why compromise? Another one with the proper spec will be along soon. I don't know about you but I spend 100% of my time behind the wheel when driving, and as such I would hate to stare at plastic blanking panels where the very nice widescreen should be. Even the Pro iDrive controller feels nicer with the touch pad, and you will using that all the time.

    Plenty out there:
    https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201808159508627?quoteref=e4dd639d-9a3d-4e54-85ff-2353f557bfa4

    Hold out OP, you wont regret it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I'm not saying it would stop me buying the car but there is more to it than just the screen size. The larger ProNav screen has a higher resolution display, a sub woofer, split screen functionality and it also comes with an internal HDD for storing music content.

    As I said earlier you can get an aftermarket ProNav retrofitted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    The small screens look shocking imo, it’s not really the screen but the extra plastic around it. Just looks like an afterthought. Would drive me mental and not cheap to upgrade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    I bought G31 520d Touring M Sport xDrive last week. After 8yrs of 1.4l petrol Golf Mk5 this is an insane upgrade for me and my family. Yes I did feel the seats in A6 Avant were more comfy right from the start and probably the drive felt somewhat different but since that was only one testdrive before I bought the car it doesnt really matter anymore.

    I think one thing thats missing is the adaptive suspension but I only test drove X5 once and can’t remember what sort of impact it had.

    All in all very happy with the purchase. There is enough power in that engine for my liking however if I ever get another Touring I will try the 3L diesel. By the way the car of this class is too fast, it gets to 60-80 just like that, not to mention 180km/h is so effortless, they really should have a 150km/h cruising speed on M50. So far my favourite thing on the car is the speed limiter, sign says 50, one touch of the button and youre going 50...

    It took me good few weeks to decide which car I will go for. Countless videos on yt, with reviews, pow autobahn drives etc. Many times I thought that whatever the reviewers say should or would affect my decission but in the end I settled for best price and features I wanted and I don’t really miss anything I don’t have in that car - as there’s no way to compare. I’m just enjoying my new car, keep filling the big tank and keep polluting the world waiting for these polar bears to go extinct... and secretely wanting more powerfull engine...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    bazz26 wrote: »
    I'm not saying it would stop me buying the car but there is more to it than just the screen size. The larger ProNav screen has a higher resolution display, a sub woofer, split screen functionality and it also comes with an internal HDD for storing music content.

    As I said earlier you can get an aftermarket ProNav retrofitted.

    None of this stuff you use i can guarantee.

    Thats my point. if the OP is looking for Dakota leather M Sport in low mileage touring. Its really a bit out of hand to tell him that another will be along shortly with all the spec he wants.

    And holding it up on a screen well. No sorry not for me. The dash looks fine. All this talk of blanking plates etc is a bit OTT.

    again its opinion, but dont disregard that top spec low mileage tourings are simply not ten a penny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    Is it possible to retrofit adaptive suspension?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    listermint wrote: »
    None of this stuff you use i can guarantee.

    Thats my point. if the OP is looking for Dakota leather M Sport in low mileage touring. Its really a bit out of hand to tell him that another will be along shortly with all the spec he wants.

    And holding it up on a screen well. No sorry not for me. The dash looks fine. All this talk of blanking plates etc is a bit OTT.

    again its opinion, but dont disregard that top spec low mileage tourings are simply not ten a penny.

    I've had both and use them, the upgraded ProNAV widescreen is well worth either waiting for in the right car if you like your gadgets so I wouldn't dismiss the ProNAV as not being used. However the OP might not be bothered with it. The car is fine other than that, it has the colour combo the OP is looking for, has the bonus of the rare pan roof and has the M Sport Plus pack which includes the Harmon Kardon loud speaker system.

    It's really up to the OP, as I said ProNav can be retrofitted afterwards as an option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,367 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Wouldn't be without widescreen option in F10,F11.
    Quickest way to tell if car has good spec as widescreen was usually bundled in with Harmon Kardon upgraded stereo, HDD music system, reversing camera.
    I've mine on Spotify and Sat Nav as default, brilliant setup.
    Had small screen on E60, pretty poor setup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭heroics


    ongarite wrote: »
    Wouldn't be without widescreen option in F10,F11.
    Quickest way to tell if car has good spec as widescreen was usually bundled in with Harmon Larson upgraded stereo, HDD music system, reversing camera.
    I've mine on Spotify and Sat Nav as default, brilliant setup.
    Had small screen on E60, pretty poor setup.

    That’s not necessarily true either.

    I’ve had my f10 for a couple of years and never missed the bigger screen.

    Mine has the bang & olufsen and is pretty well specced ( msport+ sunroof, adaptive lights etc.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ongarite wrote: »
    Wouldn't be without widescreen option in F10,F11.
    Quickest way to tell if car has good spec as widescreen was usually bundled in with Harmon Larson upgraded stereo, HDD music system, reversing camera.
    I've mine on Spotify and Sat Nav as default, brilliant setup.
    Had small screen on E60, pretty poor setup.

    Can do all that with the smaller screen. And the HDD is useless at this juncture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    listermint wrote: »
    Can do all that with the smaller screen. And the HDD is useless at this juncture.

    Maybe for it is for you but the OP had the Pro Nav on his initial wish list so we don't know if he thinks the same. I personally find the internal HDD very useful, I store all my music on it rather than having to be messing around with flash drives, memory cards or streaming from a phone. Actually a lot of these cars didn't come with bluetooth music streaming at the time even on the ProNav version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭KFed


    omri wrote: »
    I bought G31 520d Touring M Sport xDrive last week. After 8yrs of 1.4l petrol Golf Mk5 this is an insane upgrade for me and my family. Yes I did feel the seats in A6 Avant were more comfy right from the start and probably the drive felt somewhat different but since that was only one testdrive before I bought the car it doesnt really matter anymore.

    I think one thing thats missing is the adaptive suspension but I only test drove X5 once and can’t remember what sort of impact it had.

    All in all very happy with the purchase. There is enough power in that engine for my liking however if I ever get another Touring I will try the 3L diesel. By the way the car of this class is too fast, it gets to 60-80 just like that, not to mention 180km/h is so effortless, they really should have a 150km/h cruising speed on M50. So far my favourite thing on the car is the speed limiter, sign says 50, one touch of the button and youre going 50...

    It took me good few weeks to decide which car I will go for. Countless videos on yt, with reviews, pow autobahn drives etc. Many times I thought that whatever the reviewers say should or would affect my decission but in the end I settled for best price and features I wanted and I don’t really miss anything I don’t have in that car - as there’s no way to compare. I’m just enjoying my new car, keep filling the big tank and keep polluting the world waiting for these polar bears to go extinct... and secretely wanting more powerfull engine...

    Did you buy new, second hand Irish car or import yourself?

    I went to view an f11 at a Daler here and was surprised the difference from 16 f11 to 18 g30 was kuch smaller than I expected.

    I am thinking of holding out for g31 rather than f11 as Irish dealer pricing a strong and trade in was bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭omri


    Got it in the north, it's 8 months old now. I don't know much about the previous versions but as I said this one is a massive step up for me. If I had even bigger budget then probably I would get few more features such as panoramic roof, the adaptive suspension (although I might get in touch with BMW here in Ireland and see if they could fit that), heads up display, icon lights. I wanted bright upholstery and all the models that had the roof were black inside, also the reversing camera but usually models with the camera had normal xenon lights and the ones without came with icon headlights, so I had to compromise somewhere. In the end I'm using mirrors most of the time with the camera just for the precission.

    From reading posts above I also have the upgraded SatNav with 20GB storage. Which I wouldn't know otherwise. The SatNav is very good although sometimes I feel it tells directions way too early - like "prepare to exit left" and I'm just passing some road thinking did I miss that, or if there is a sequence of turns the second comes too quickly for the voice over. All the stuff that's shown on the screens and digital cockpit is quite distracting. Having the directions on heads up display would be more convenient (again I might ask the garage if this could be fitted too).

    The spotify integration is very handy, but I don't seem to be able to pause the track and I do often have to actually open spotify on the phone before I can control it in the infotainment. The only way so far is to pause the track on the phone or just mute the sound.

    The 5 Series was our second choice on the list, first one was XC90 or the X5 - both being outside the budget or selection was just too poor. I'm still thinking of maybe trading it in for one of them but will see. For now it's great fun to drive. Car is very solid, some wind and tyre noise especially for the driver and front passanger.

    The comfort access is a nice feature, same as the automatic boot which I never experienced before. The foot waving is ok, bit of a gimmick so far but maybe day will come I get to use it in real life scenario. If you're looking for one, pick either 19 or 20 inch wheels as they look so good in real. The headlight washers and high beam assistant - not sure if that's worth the money.

    The only thing with my model being the 4wheel drive is that I have to keep an eye on the tires. There is a limit of 5mm difference on the thread depth between the wheels on the same axle. If it goes above that I should change them or smth will go wrong with can't remember what. Differential or computer or smth. With the milage I'm doing it will be 10 years before I hit 100k km anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭dohc


    Thanks for everyones perspective. So I'm thinking I will go with it in the morning. Dropping a deposit and viewing/collecting it on the weekend. Some background is I have a baby due next week and still no car. Feeling the pressure. I feel like I'm happy with the other combo of colour, wheels, speakers and sunroof. The media is just so annoying. If its annoying me I will upgrade it. It comes with 1 year warranty here in Republic of Ire and 1 year roadside assist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭heroics


    dohc wrote: »
    Thanks for everyones perspective. So I'm thinking I will go with it in the morning. Dropping a deposit and viewing/collecting it on the weekend. Some background is I have a baby due next week and still no car. Feeling the pressure. I feel like I'm happy with the other combo of colour, wheels, speakers and sunroof. The media is just so annoying. If its annoying me I will upgrade it. It comes with 1 year warranty here in Republic of Ire and 1 year roadside assist.

    Best of luck with the car and the baby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭KFed


    Likewise, best of luck with the car and with the baby! If I was you, no car and baby due, I'd be jumping on one and hot footing it over and back so you're in the right place, with a car, for the trip to the maternity hospital!

    If the media bothers you you can upgrade it down the line.

    I agree the pro nav looks great but depending on your driving, may never need the sat Nav and if you've a phone and Bluetooth you're probably sorted for music etc...

    Nice to have versus need to have imo.

    Best of luck with the car, looks a cracker to me. Personally think the oyster and wood is also the best interior combo!


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