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I'm a James Bond Virgin

  • 14-08-2018 5:15pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭


    Behave....

    I'm 29, I've never sat down to a James Bond movie, and I just thought about it recently I might decide to watch a few, but with the sheer amount of JB films available, and the decades they cover, I'm not exactly sure if I should watch all of them in order of release, or just pick out the best ones and watch them.

    What do you all recommend?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    From Russia with Love
    On her majesty's secret service
    Live and Let Die
    The spy who loved me
    The living daylights
    Goldeneye
    Casino Royale

    Not an accident that most are debut outings for each incarnation. The early films in each era are the strongest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Gotta watch Dr. No and Goldfinger too. They each contain so many iconic Bond moments.

    I always liked For your eyes only as the last decent Roger Moore Bond film after The spy who loved me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    I'd start out with a Connery, a Moore, a Brosnan and a Craig. Goldfinger, The Spy Who Loved Me, Goldeneye, and Casino Royale would be my recommendations. The films have evolved over time, and each actor had his own style, so it's interesting to dip into it like that and see what appeals to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    On Her Majesty's Secret Service a glorious Bond film.

    Lazenby was harshly treated.

    Watch that first.


    Then go with the mainstays who played Bond..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    It's worth watching them all really, naturally some are better than others but there aren't any bad ones bar maybe Tomorrow Never Dies or World is Not Enough. If I had to list it, Harry's list above is probably good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Moonraker one of my personal faves.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    The older films should not be watched by the modern twitter mob. What would they make of JB slapping a girl on the arse and telling her to "run along, man talk"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    From Russia with Love
    On her majesty's secret service
    Live and Let Die
    The spy who loved me
    The living daylights
    Goldeneye
    Casino Royale

    Not an accident that most are debut outings for each incarnation. The early films in each era are the strongest.

    A pretty solid list, I personally would swap out The Living Daylights for the much more exciting Licence to Kill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,039 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Behave....

    I'm 29, I've never sat down to a James Bond movie, and I just thought about it recently I might decide to watch a few, but with the sheer amount of JB films available, and the decades they cover, I'm not exactly sure if I should watch all of them in order of release, or just pick out the best ones and watch them.

    What do you all recommend?

    First of all, there's no series of Bond films that are uniformly good, not Connery, Moore, Dalton or anyone else. Craig's Bond started off well and he shot to my top Bond spot. But, 'Spectre' fucked all that up, because it tried to go back to "old" Bond.

    But, most Bond movies can be watched on the own, except for the Craig ones. Below are my recommendations in no real order, bear in mind, I am not a Bond fan, but I've seen all the films more than once.

    'Casino Royale'/'Quantum of Solace'/'Skyfall' - and if you want, 'Spectre'

    'Goldfinger'

    'Live and Let Die'

    'From Russia with Love'

    'Dr. No'

    'You Only Live Twice'

    'The Man with the Golden Gun'

    'Thunderball'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    I've been a big Bond fan and here is how I'd rate them:

    Best in the Series
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    The Living Daylights
    GoldenEye
    Casino Royale
    Skyfall

    Entertaining
    Dr. No (I can forgive the fact that it is a little rough around the edges because it is the very first one)
    Thunderball (It is a massive spectacle but the water scenes slow down the pace a lot)
    You Only Live Twice (A big step down from Thunderball and I nearly put it in the section below but it has Blofeld and the volcano base, so it is fairly iconic. Little Nellie is cool too)
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service (The story, action and Diana Rigg are great but Lazenby is problematic for me, which may not be the case for others)
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy (I think I rate this one a little higher than others would)
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Spectre (It wasn't as bad as Quantum of Solace)

    Only OK
    Live and Let Die
    Licence To Kill
    The World Is Not Enough
    Quantum of Solace

    Rubbish
    Diamonds Are Forever (Seeing Connery in such a silly and camp movie makes this almost unwatchable for me)
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    Moonraker
    A View To A Kill
    Die Another Day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    From Russia with Love
    On her majesty's secret service
    Live and Let Die
    The spy who loved me
    The living daylights
    Goldeneye
    Casino Royale

    Not an accident that most are debut outings for each incarnation. The early films in each era are the strongest.

    Yeah, that's a good point. The Bond actors do not leave the series on a high note. I wonder will Craig and Danny Boyle break this trend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭RichT


    As a person of a certain age, I've watched all the Bond Films as they were released. I'd recommend that you watch them in order as well. The first three... Dr No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger are as good as any of them, and if you're not hooked by then, then they may not be for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Watch all of them, some you will like some you wont.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,875 ✭✭✭✭Kolido


    I rewatched all of them about 2 years ago over a period of a few months. Some are good, some not so much but the standout 1 for me was "From Russia with love". I thought it was just a personal preference but I see it high on a lot of lists.

    As was posted above, I would watch them in order of release and see how you like them, the first 3 or 4 are as good as any.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Gamer Bhoy 89


    I just finished Dr. No - really enjoyed it.
    I'm going to watch From Russia With Love tonight or tomorrow. I've heard a lot of good things about it and judging from the comments here, I reckon if I thought Dr. No was good I'm in for a good one with the next film.

    Thanks for the recommendations everyone :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    And to really confuse you, there's also the unofficial Bond starring Connery, Never Say Never Again, which is a version of Thunderball.
    I like it. Think it was one of my first Bonds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Gamer Bhoy 89


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    And to really confuse you, there's also the unofficial Bond starring Connery, Never Say Never Again, which is a version of Thunderball.
    I like it. Think it was one of my first Bonds

    Ah don't do that to me. Does it need to be watched? Is it a sequel, spinoff? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,039 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    'From Russia With Love' is usually considered the best of the Connery films. But, I think that has a lot to do with Robert Shaw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    Ah don't do that to me. Does it need to be watched? Is it a sequel, spinoff? :P

    It is actually a remake of Thunderball and no, it doesn't need to be watched. It is pretty horrible. Connery himself said he really regretted making it. You have enough to get through with the official EON movies.

    And yeah, I think you are in for a treat with From Russia With Love. A real good and gritty espionage movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,495 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    Tony EH wrote: »
    'From Russia With Love' is usually considered the best of the Connery films. But, I think that has a lot to do with Robert Shaw.

    Robert Shaw was an outstanding actor.

    And the other villain, Rosa Klebb I think she was called....a great character too

    Hell, I might give this a rewatch myself this weekend :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Oh and another note. The Casino Royale being suggested stars Daniel Craig from 2006. There was also a comedy which starred David Niven as James Bond.

    I'm really not helping, am I. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,565 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Zeek12 wrote: »
    Robert Shaw was an outstanding actor.

    How did I not know that the guy from From Russia With Love and the guy from Jaws was the same person?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,495 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    He was also the villain in The Taking of Pelham 123 (the original 70s version)

    Well worth a look if you haven't seen it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Rubbish
    Diamonds Are Forever (Seeing Connery in such a silly and camp movie makes this almost unwatchable for me)
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    Moonraker
    A View To A Kill
    Die Another Day

    Weirdly upon a recent reviewing I found myself enjoying it. I suspect it's because Connery is quite evidently there for the cheque and the whole vibe is spectacularly non politically correct. It has the feel of a big budget rip-off of a 007 film, just needs a dubbed soundtrack to work fully :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,039 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    How did I not know that the guy from From Russia With Love and the guy from Jaws was the same person?


    It's amazing what a bit of hair dye can do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Wedwood


    For Completists, you can include 1983's Never Say Never Again starring Sean Connery, basically a remake of Thunderball.

    Watch out for an early role by Rowan Atkinson, probably gave him the idea for Johnny English.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    And "Kim Baysingers" nipples are great :) The rest is mixed but some amusing scenes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I love the bonds. But they've dated badly though. I wonder if thats one of the reasons the Craig ones have less tech, they are more like thrillers than bond movies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Saw this thread earlier while we were trying to decide on a film for the evening.

    Just watched from russia with love. Neither of us had ever seen it and it was brilliant. Thanks OP and thanks everyone else for the recommendation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    I always liked Live and Let Die with Roger Moore. A great speedboat chase, the redneck sheriff, Baron Samedi and the lovely Jane Seymour..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Sal Butamol


    Dr. No
    From Russia with Love
    Goldfinger
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Live and Let Die
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    For Your Eyes Only
    A View To A Kill
    The Living Daylights
    Licence to Kill
    Goldeneye
    Casino Royale
    Skyfall

    Have never fully liked You only live twice and Thunderball (bit too Dr. Evil Austin Powers for me), Diamonds is crap, likewise with Moonraker and Man with Golden Gun from Moore, Octopussy is fun but silly at times, Dalton is closest to the Bond from the books and did Craig before Craig, Brosnans run has aged the worst, he was good but all of them were ****e bar his debut, I walked out of Die another Day, didn't like Quantum and Spectre just made a complete balls of Blofeld which is unforgivable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    then you have the original outing of James Bond



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Watch Austin Powers as well, rips into a lot of bond scenes, villains and bond girls.

    The villains and bond girls make the movies as much as the actor playing bond.
    Ursula Andreas will always be the original and best in my view.
    The older movies are just as good and nonsensical as the new ones, some gems in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Dr. No
    From Russia with Love
    Goldfinger
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Live and Let Die
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    For Your Eyes Only
    A View To A Kill
    The Living Daylights
    Licence to Kill
    Goldeneye
    Casino Royale
    Skyfall

    Have never fully liked You only live twice and Thunderball (bit too Dr. Evil Austin Powers for me), Diamonds is crap, likewise with Moonraker and Man with Golden Gun from Moore, Octopussy is fun but silly at times, Dalton is closest to the Bond from the books and did Craig before Craig, Brosnans run has aged the worst, he was good but all of them were ****e bar his debut, I walked out of Die another Day, didn't like Quantum and Spectre just made a complete balls of Blofeld which is unforgivable

    I like Diamonds and Moonraker in a so bad, they end up good fun kind of way.

    I think Dalton was massively underrated (The Living Daylights is fùcking great and some Miami Vice shìte aside, License to Kill is a good film as well), and Brosnan was a terrible Bond, even if Goldeneye is a class film. At least Roger's bad stretch was so over the top and silly, you could go with it.

    Craig's great, but bar Casino Royale, all the other movies he's been in are terrible. Skyfall is a trainwreck in the second half. Spectre is maybe my least favorite Bond film.

    Why the fùck is it 150 minutes long?

    The real underrated jewel is On Her Majesty's Secret Service. It's a pure artsy fartsy version of a Bond film, and its like none of the others, but it's superb all the same. The ending is a genuinely sad cluster**** alright.

    Though From Russia With Love is my favorite one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Going through them one by one you find dips and peaks after 1970. The 70s were very dicey for Bond, after the non stop success of the 60s. Diamonds was poor, but Live and Let Die and the introduction of Moore revived the whole show. But then Man with the Golden Gun is poor again, but The Spy Who Loved Me is one of my favourites for sure. Then Moonraker is terrible, probably the worst for me. This streak of ups and downs continues into the 80s, so the Bond films were under serious threat by the time Dalton had finished and Brosnan took over. The Brosnan era at least revived the whole series and modernised it, as the audiences became more sophisticated also, and what impressed in the 1960s or 70s in terms of locations, and stunts doesn't impress a well travelled audience today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Wedwood


    Each Bond belonged to a different era and often don't compare well for that reason.


    Connery - Was the original, so virtually everyone that followed was compared. His Bond movies (like everyone else's were mainly good, but 1 or two duds as well)


    Lazenby - 1 movie, hated for years, subsequently re-evaluated decades later


    Moore - His movies deliberately lighter/playful in tone. His lighter brand of wink to the audience action movies became the template for the likes of Indiana Jones, including more recently seen in the Marvel movies.

    Dalton - Craig prototype

    Brosnan - like Moore, currently out of vogue.


    Craig - Bond for the current 'gritty' generation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Sal Butamol


    Brosnan isn't out of vogue, the films were just plain old ****e and embarrassing.

    Had he better scripts and stories he could have been great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,658 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Wife told me she got my birthday present, one that I've been plaguing her for years at every Christmas and birthday.

    I could not figure it out at all, then read this thread, said I want to re-watch them all, then the Bingo moment occurred. Full box set incoming, can't wait to get cracking on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    I think its best to watch them all in order and you can see how the times and era they were made in shaped them and how they have dated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭RichT


    Mushy wrote: »
    Wife told me she got my birthday present, one that I've been plaguing her for years at every Christmas and birthday.

    I could not figure it out at all, then read this thread, said I want to re-watch them all, then the Bingo moment occurred. Full box set incoming, can't wait to get cracking on them.

    ........... Or this

    3150.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    God be with the days of the 'Bond Season' on Network 2. Bond films twice or three times a week. Idale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1



    Brosnans run has aged the worst, he was good but all of them were ****e bar his debut, I walked out of Die another Day

    I'll never forget the scene where he was using a plane door and parachute to ride a wave which lifted him over the cliff edge.

    Everyone in the cinema was breaking their sh*te laughing. I knew then and there that Brosnan was finished as bond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    RichT wrote: »
    ........... Or this

    3150.jpg
    Perfect for undercover missions, never mind the big 007 plastered across them :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Sal Butamol


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    I'll never forget the scene where he was using a plane door and parachute to ride a wave which lifted him over the cliff edge.

    Everyone in the cinema was breaking their sh*te laughing. I knew then and there that Brosnan was finished as bond.

    That's the scene where I got up and walked out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    I'll never forget the scene where he was using a plane door and parachute to ride a wave which lifted him over the cliff edge.

    Everyone in the cinema was breaking their sh*te laughing. I knew then and there that Brosnan was finished as bond.

    An absolute low point of the whole series. I feel sorry for Brosnan in a way. To go from a brilliant movie like GoldenEye which at least had one foot grounded in the real world, to this with its cartoon physics and painfully bad effects.



    I can just picture Brosnan on a green screen stage with the director yelling instructions to move his arms left and right. Embarrassing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭BailMeOut




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    BailMeOut wrote: »
    They make a good point; Henry Kissinger is a tailor-made Bond villain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,875 ✭✭✭✭Kolido


    BailMeOut wrote: »

    The Living Daylights is ranked criminally low on that list and the top movie is one of my least favourite Bond movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    BailMeOut wrote: »

    That list is rubbish. I know such things are subjective but I wouldn't advise anyone to judge the series based on that article.


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